Red Elemental Blast
Choose one - Counter target blue spell; or destroy target blue permanent.
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Red Elemental Blast Discussion
2 days ago
I enjoy playing competitive EDH and one of the recently spoiled Strixhaven cards I already know is going to shake-up my meta and make things difficult for me. Namely Witherbloom Apprentice is the card I'm dreading as it can close out a game if it's controller casts Chain of Smog as it can be copied infinitely if the controller always targets themself with it. It's very likely every BGx deck in my play group is going to run this combo given how easy it is to setup and when you pair the possibility of closing out the game on turn two through Dark Ritual or Sol Ring into a mana rock, it becomes a lethal threat I can't ignore when making deck building decisions. As such, I feel I need to add another one mana creature removal spell in my deck, but I'm stumped over which spell I should include not just to address this potential combo but also have the most practical use outside of it as well.
My current list of removal spells are: Path to Exile , Swords to Plowshares , Sinister Concoction , Dismember , Lightning Axe , Molten Vortex , Red Elemental Blast , Pyroblast and Terminate (I enjoy playing more reactively than proactively.)
The removal spells I'm considering are: Dark Betrayal , Fatal Push , Human Frailty , Lightning Bolt , Magma Spray , Weight of Spires and Seal of Fire . (The last one I'm considering for its use around counterspells by casting it early.)
Notable exclusions are: Deadly Rollick , Defile , Dispatch , Force of Despair , Galvanic Blast , Murderous Cut , Mutual Destruction , Necrotic Wound , Pyrokinesis , Reckless Rage , Skred and Tragic Slip as I feel I don't have the means to meet these card restrictions consistent enough to be useful in my deck, especially in the early game. I'm also not considering two mana removal spells like Go for the Throat because I feel at this point cost effectiveness matters more than removal range.
Of course the best removal spell is going to depend heavily on the meta, but I'm generally trying to figure out which of the spells I'm considering is the best in a competitive environment in general. I'm looking for feedback and second opinions on whether you think any of the spells shines well above the rest through your own play experiences. I appreciate any insight I can get, thanks.
1 week ago
I played a 3 player game with this list just to get a feel for the commander which means some of this should be taken with a grain of salt because I don't know how some of the cards would work in a different situation with only one game to base my experience on.
Out of several attack triggers from Velomachus, most of the free spells were a bit underwhelming. I think one I got Mana Geyser as my free spell and had nothing to spend the mana on during combat. I did manage to win the game, but primarily because one opponent had trouble getting lands early on and fell behind, and also because that player cast Song of the Dryads on the other opponent's Golos, Tireless Pilgrim which shut him down from getting lots of card advantage from activating his ability. Justice Strike unfortunately didn't feel useful, most of the creatures I wanted to kill had more toughness than power. Probably replace it with Path to Exile .
I felt like the deck could use another spell or two that give extra combats. That would be a great thing to hit off of Velomachus triggers. Akroma's Will would also be a nice thing to hit off of his trigger. Also you have a lot of token producing cards, but nothing really to pump the team. Maybe consider Cathars' Crusade , Shared Animosity , Intangible Virtue , or Balefire Liege to make your tokens more threatening. Another neat card that can also be used politically to buff an opponent's attacker is Duelist's Heritage .
Other cards to consider:
1 week ago
First, can I state the the conversation is about Hybrid, not or . Those should not be used in any argument, because all three are vastly different. For example, something with in its cost is definitely a Green card. It was built to be a green effect on a green card that had a weird casting cost to help some players out when their mana is weird. Additionally, Dismember is 100% a black card.
And can I say that I absolutely hate the "slippery slope" argument, especially in Magic. It's entirely irrelevant. It isn't even capable of holding water.
Now, the Hybrid mana thing is weird. The design of the mechanic allows mono-colored decks to use effects that are supposed to be 2-color. Technically, you can also use them in 2-color decks that don't line up, like Nightveil Specter in a deck, but that puts a lot of strain on your manabase and I don't recommend it.
The problem comes down to, do we actually want some of these cards in certain monocolor decks? Looking through the cards, most of them wouldn't even be played in commander. And honestly, oh no mono blue gets Overbeing of Myth is not all that scary. There's a couple minor pie stretches and breaks that would happen, but for the most part very few of the cards are playable and very few of them actually change much about what the mono color decks already have access to.
The only cards I can see actually being crazy are Guttural Response , which is a third member of green's Autumn's Veil and Veil of Summer package and another anti-counterspell in red's gang of Red Elemental Blast , Pyroblast , Ricochet Trap .... etc. Or maybe Vexing Shusher ? Hmmm, well . . . no. Again, red and green on their own are perfectly capable of saying "screw you blue" without either of those cards.
Or Waves of Aggression in mono white? Oh, wait . . . most mono white lists are stax or janky creature mcSlappies. And them getting one Extra Combat effect is honestly meh. It wouldn't break anything. Honestly, I don't even think it's all that powerful.
Or Dovescape in mono white? Oh, wait, monowhite has better stax pieces. In monoblue? Nah, monoblue is spellcaster. It loses to Dovescape.
The impact of making such a change is so small that, for those campaigning for the change, it is entirely an ideological victory. The impact is quite literally restricted to "now I have to explain why I'm allowed to run this card". Which honestly is no worse than having to explain some of your more complicated turns to newer players. Which I have to do all the time.
I don't have a stance here, because there isn't actually a compelling reason to make the change or to refuse the change. Actually, check that, there is one reason to refuse the change, and that is "actually bothering to make the change". So this change will not happen, because the single point awarded to either side is against it.
3 weeks ago
Homeward Path will solve your creature theft problem. Red Elemental Blast / Pyroblast will solve some of your counterspell woes, and imo, are auto-include in competitive red decks. Gamble will help you find what you need. I hope this helps.
3 weeks ago
Thank you very much abby315 and Nerdytimesorwhatever ! I will keep those cards in mind for sure! I may cut down on some of the lands first and dig in to the combos once I'm down to around 32ish lands. All of the cards on my maybe board are cards that I want to add to the deck that I do not currently own. I will find a spot for the Red Elemental Blast , Pyroblast , Drannith Magistrate , and Opposition Agent . Would Spirit of the Labyrinth be any good to slow down card
3 weeks ago
I'm definitely not up to date with the cEDH meta, but I have a few suggestions that I think are just better cards:
You definitely should be running more interaction, especially in these colors. I'd recommend trying to fit in at least some of the following: Swan Song , Force of Negation , Flusterstorm , Mental Misstep , Opposition Agent , Pyroblast , Red Elemental Blast . If I had to make cuts, I'd start with the Mycosynth Lattice / Nevinyrral's Disk combo, which is slow; Open the Vaults and Refurbish since you don't have much self-mill to make these a speedier option for getting a combo out; and either the Time Sieve / Thopter Assembly combo because it's slow or the Felidar Guardian / Saheeli Rai combo because you don't have many ways to find it and neither piece is especially useful on its own.
I hope this helps! In general I think paring down the list to support 1-2 combo lines using Breya, then shoring up the protection for that combo, will serve you well.
1 month ago
Grubbernaut, I agree with that, and, on that subject, at the risk of starting a heated debate, I still believe that Red Elemental Blast , Pyroblast , and Guttural Response are acceptable because of how limited they are.
1 month ago
I'm not sure of previous versions of this deck, but I have some cards I think you should add, plus some cards I think you should either just consider replacing or simply just take out. We'll start with the ADD list.
Earthquake and/or Rolling Earthquake (You already have an effect like this in Subterranean Tremors , but this also hits players, so you'll deal EXTRA damage on top of the extra damage from the commander.)
Starstorm (An effect like many others, but this one has cycling.)
Fire Servant (It's not the cheapest creature, but it has an ability that you might want more of. You can always use more damage doubling.)
Mana Geyser (Look, it's just a good card to get a lot of mana quickly. Not super necessary, but it's fast mana in R)
Heartless Hidetsugu (I'm just suggesting this one because cutting your opponents down to 20 is great and makes killing them easier.)
Seething Song (Fast Mana good.)
Seize the Spoils (I noticed a lack of card draw, and this is a pretty neat mono-red card draw spell.)
Endless Atlas (Again, card draw, and it's cheap and consistent.)
Genesis Chamber (Yeah, it requires your opponents to be playing creatures a bit, but it makes it just that much easier to kill them. Plus the Myr generated are all 1/1s, so they will easily let excess damage through from the rest of the deck.)
Sanctuary Blade (A little expensive on the equip side, but this is another consitent way to give your commander pro-red.)
Chandra, Awakened Inferno (Her + kills your opponents faster, her - does what you commander wants, her -X is neat. I think she's all around a great inclusion.)
Chandra, Torch of Defiance (Okay, so now is where I admit that you only had 1 planeswalker and I talk about how much I like Planeswalker cards. I think they're cool and fun. This specific one is great beacause she either gives you mana or draws you a card, essentially. Her two differ +1's are really the only reason, but her ult is something your opponents wont want to have go off, either.)
Caged Sun (More Mana in mono-red.)
Pyroblast (Unless this is for a VERY SPECIFIC meta where you are going against mean U decks, this will be more frustrating in hand than useful, I think. Plus, color-specific hate like this just feels out of place in this format, unless, of course, your meta is particularly skewed a certain way.)
Red Elemental Blast (See Above.)
Tibalt's Trickery (Yeah, cool counterspell, but I think the deck should focus more on itself, personally.)
Wheel of Fate (There are better, and faster, ways to draw cards. I like the idea of this card, but in having played it over and over again, either it never actually resolves -like the game ends- or it just feels like a relative waste because people can see it coming and plan ahead.)
Lavabrink Floodgates (To be fair, I've never played with this card, but OH BOY does it seem bad. If you're not proliferating the counters, then this will NEVER go off if your opponents don't want it to, and they would never want it to with this deck, unless a board-wipe JUST happened and there are not creatures. So then it's just a 4-drop mana rock producing 2, and you can just replace it with something better like Caged Sun that will help you Earthquake for a win faster.
Arch of Orazca (I noticed in your mana base that you have 13 lands that tap for colorless. That seems like too many for me - it's almost the same number of Snow-Covered Mountain s you have. So I am recommending removing some. I get why this one is here, for the card draw, but this is SO EXPENSIVE. I don't even run it in my colorless Emrakul deck.)
Great Furnace (I like this card, I really do. I LOVE artifacts. But without any artifact synergies, this is more likely do get Shatter ed or Vandalblast ed than actually help you, and that'll feel bad. Just replace it with a Snow-Covered Mountain .)
Leyline of Punishment (I get that this is here to make it harder for your opponents to survive or heal up, but honestly, just play Heartless Hidetsugu or something else to keep life totals low. This one is often going to feel more like a do-nothing enchantment unless your meta is HEAVY life-gain.)
Treasonous Ogre (Fast mana, sure, but it seemed overall pretty meh to me in this deck. It's better at killing you than it is at providing mana in this specific deck, I think.)
Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor (The effect is important for making sure you opponents have creatures, but getting her to hit you opponents before they have blockers is going to be a challenge, and if you draw her late-game, then she's just a 3/3 blocker.)
Bonfire of the Damned (The miracle cost is cool, but most of the time I think you'd rather something like Earthquake that will most likely hit almost all of their creatures AND more than 1 opponent/opponent's board. Plus, if this isn't Miracle'd, then this is pretty trash in your hand.)
I'm sure I said add more cards than take out, and I know I said take out a couple lands, but not really add any, but I hope this is helpful.