Erebos, God of the Dead

Erebos, God of the Dead

Legendary Enchantment Creature — God

As long as your devotion to black is less than five, Erebos isn't a creature. (Each in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to black.)

Your opponents can't gain life.

, Pay 2 life: Draw a card.

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Format Legality
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Legacy Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Leviathan Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Limited Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Highlander Legal
Unformat Legal
Vintage Legal
Custom Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
1v1 Commander Legal

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Erebos, God of the Dead Discussion

babydaggers on "I'm the bad guy." - Erebos probably

1 day ago

+1 for a great deckname and Shrouded Lore is a great find.

Possible adds: throw in Midnight Banshee to chip away at the board, Contamination to cripple manabases, and perhaps Ayara, First of Locthwain for the added extortion/draw (not to mention another 3 black mana pips for devotion). Phyrexian Reclamation to recover any dead buddies, and to give your Reiver Demon another chance to blow the board up. Pestilence to just bone everyone since Erebos, God of the Dead is indestructible, as long as your devotion is at 5 you can wipe the board and keep Pestilence around - you'll be at 3 devotion with Pestilence and Erebos anyway so it shouldn't be too tough.

enpc on Greed or Erebos, God of …

1 month ago

TriusMalarky: Night's Whisper gets used in Doomsday lines as well, since it is mana efficient (in the cEDH scene). So it doesn't always come down to the money card cost of a card.

Peligrad: EDHREC is not the best argument. Sure, a lot of people run a card, but I see a lot of really trash cards run in a lot of decks, so that's not always a good argument.

As for the case for Phyrexian Arena, nobody is saying it's bad - it'sa greawt card. The problem is that there are a lot of scenarios where you just want the cards now and you're happy to pay a bit more life for a one shot to draw some cards, since a lot can happen in two-three turns. Arena is great for drawn out games, where you see six-seven cards from it. But the more competitive you go, the more you value cards in hand immediately, which is why you don't see Phyrexian Arena in higher end decks. You see more Dark Confidant as A) it's less mana and B) there's no double black casting cost.

As for Necropotence, that's a tricky one. The card is definitely powerful and it has made a name for itself in hte history of MtG. but in a casual mono black deck, I don't think it's that good if I'm being honest. Most casual mono black decks run pretty high mana curves and from a lot of the ones I've seen on T/O don't run enough ramp. Which means that you're potentially only casting one-two cards a turn if you're being proactive (less if you have removal in hand you're holding onto). Which means that you may be drawing one-two cards a turn off of it. Sure, it's great when you cast it a then draw five cards, but after that you can be back to drawing not much, which you would have just gotten at the beginning of your draw step anyway.

I've played Necropotence in both a casual mono black deck that ran a crapload of ramp and I've also run it in a <2 average CMC cEDH combo control deck and I've found it to have mixed results for both. I actually cut it in the cEDH deck, since I wasn't running the Angel's Grace + Windfall line, which is where you see the most value from it.

@everyone: I think the key here is that while you can have some hard and fast rules about cards, you need to be willing to break the rules to suit the actual meta you're playing in. Phyrexian Arena is an awesome card, but if it doesn't suit the deck or how most games are played (over in 10 turns, lots of removal, etc.) then you may be able to do more consistent work with that slot.

Same thing goes for Greed (my preference) and Erebos, God of the Dead. If your games go long and you have lots of mana, I'm sure either is fine. But if the games are shorter and mana is an issue, you might get more value from Ambition's Cost or Ancient Craving. But the worst thing you can do is just say "this card needs to go in every deck" or "EDHREC says this card is good".

RambIe on Greed or Erebos, God of …

1 month ago

p.s.s. i do completely agree with enpc with picking Night's Whisper over Phyrexian Arena

Night's Whisper is 2 mana for 2 cards and considering black has lots of tutors to top it can combo well in most decks

Phyrexian Arena is a great card as is Dark Tutelage, Dark Confidant
all offer fantastic card vantage, however they don't draw the turn they come into play
they have to survive 2-3 rounds to get the card draw vs cost value and that doesn't always happen

thats what makes cards like Erebos, God of the Dead & Greed so tempting to run
yes they are higher cmc but they combo well with tutor to top spells providing instant responses to situations
while also providing the possibility of drawing 5+ cards at your opponents end step

RambIe on Greed or Erebos, God of …

1 month ago

enpc What sets Erebos, God of the Dead & Greed apart from every other suggestion
of card vantage in this thread is they are both mana dumps

it has been my experience then when people are considering cards like these
with out taking any interest in the extra 1 card per turn options
it means there deck is playing with an abundance of mana and lack of cards in hand

So my suggestion is going to remain unchanged.

Peligrad on Greed or Erebos, God of …

1 month ago

No doubt creatures are the most vulnerable permanent type. Still, it makes value every turn with no mana required allowing you to press forward with your game plan. What I dislike about Greed and Erebos, God of the Dead is that you don't get value out of them without spending mana on them. It feels really bad to take a turn off to play a value engine, and then not get any value from it, but it also feels bad to take a turn off to play a value engine and then take another turn off make the value engine do something.

I much prefer value engines that go on their own once they hit the table. I tend to be the aggressive tempo player though. If you're the reactive player holding up mana for instant speed interaction, stuff like Greed makes more sense, as you can use your unspent mana there if you opt to not cast the removal spell that you were holding up mana for.

Peligrad on Greed or Erebos, God of …

1 month ago

seshiro_of_the_orochi

I would agree with that.

You have to want Erebos, God of the Dead to be a creature to want him over Greed as Greed is the more efficient draw engine. A 5/7 indestructible beater for 4 CMC is solid and in mono-black the devotion requirement is easy.

That said, I still do think he's great. If you have several orzhov life gain players in your meta, I can see him as a good anti-meta card, but this shouldn't be a staple card.

Erebos, Bleak-Hearted is the superior Erebos IMO

SteelSentry on Greed or Erebos, God of …

1 month ago

I'm finishing up a mono- deck, and have one more card slot to fill, and I'm not sure which mana to card engine is a better pick. Assuming the life gain prevention is negligible, has anyone found the resilience and the ability to occasionally attack with Erebos, God of the Dead worth the higher activation cost over Greed?

wallisface on Merchant, Messenger, Murderer

1 month ago

Some thoughts:

  • I think you need to be playing 24 lands... 22 is just waaay too low with the amount of 4-and-5 drops you’re playing.

  • even with 24 lands, your mana curve doesn’t look great. You have a bunch of “cute” cards like Ayara, First of Locthwain and Erebos, God of the Dead, which don’t actually help you much, and would be better served as killspells. I would suggest dropping these cuter cards to get Bloodchief's Thirst into the mainboard.

  • 3 Phyrexian Arena seems a bit much, i don’t think you want to be running more than 2 (drawing a second copy is effectively pretty close to a dead draw)

  • Killing Wave doesn’t seem like a good card, your opponent can always choose the option that suits them best.

  • the sideboard needs a lot of work. I’m not sure what you’re trying to hose with these cards, but i think your current setup needs a major rethink

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