Greater Gargadon

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Freeform Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
PreDH Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Greater Gargadon

Creature — Beast

Suspend 10— (Rather than cast this card from your hand, you may pay and exile it with four time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, cast it without paying its mana cost. It has haste.)

Sacrifice an artifact, creature, or land: Remove a time counter from Greater Gargadon. Activate this ability only if Greater Gargadon is suspended.

capwner on Do You Have “Pet Cards?”

3 months ago

My most pet card for EDH is Timesifter and by extension all the deckthinning tech for it like Trench Gorger, Mana Severance, Endless Horizons, and for pulling out nonlands you have Skyship Weatherlight and Selective Memory.

Recross the Paths has also become something of a pet meme card mostly from using it in my grist deck which is perhaps my wildest original combo idea. Recross allows for stacking the entire deck in any order in all-spells/belcher lists.

I like a lot of the big red spells but Thieves' Auction is probably my favorite especially when you can break parity with something like t-pro or Worldgorger Dragon, similarly to MLD. I just think it's funny.

Then Restore Balance, Greater Gargadon, and Commandeer are all pretty special for me after playing with them for years in my Modern garga-geddon deck.

capwner on The Most Cursed EDH Deck I've Ever Made

7 months ago

king-saproling -- Yo thanks for the comment! Restore Balance is a really powerful effect that kinda plays with some of the deck's other angles, like we already want Greater Gargadon to enable Academy Rector/Arena Rector. It is also somewhat lower opportunity cost to run cascade/balance with Timesifter compared with other decks (can't run 1-2 cmc). At the least you can sweep go-wide decks or check ramp players, at most it just ends games thru total MLD+Mind Twist and we hopefully we have Smothering Tithe or Timesifter out or something. One example that comes up is we are taking Sifter turns but are in a position where we lose if we pass the turn, so here balance becomes an out. Afterwards we can rely on Sifter to recover even if we miss some turns. The biggest reason for balance though, is because I can :P

The plan with Selective Memory is to remove every card in your deck except Jace, Wielder of Mysteries. Or Maybe Jace+Chromatic Lantern for example. Mirror of Fate is our backup card both to exile the library and retrieve Jace if he ends up exiled himself so it's kind of a cool 2-way tech for that combo.

trippy_mcfly on Cumly Cube

1 year ago

Introducing Cumly Cube 1.4! Two months ago, Cumly Cube was updated to Cumly Cube 1.3, which was touted as balanced and without any notable flaws. There is no more insidious poison than hubris! Many cards remained that were too strong, or close to unplayable. Many archetypes existed in the cube but had too little support to ever be worth drafting. Many cards failed to fit the ethos of Cumly Cube. With 89 more cuts and adds, I am now pleased to announce that, this time, Cumly Cube has reached a final form! Perhaps a few cards are still too strong, too weak, or out of place, but the vast majority of the draft pool is now in an acceptable state. Any further changes to Cumly Cube 1 will exist as minor updates, swapping out only a few cards at a time. This means that there will never be a Cumly Cube 1.5, only 1.4.1, 1.4.2, etc.

Here are the changes, provided with brief justifications:

REMOVED:

ARTIFACT

  1. Basilisk Collar: equipment is not part of Cumly Cube 1
  2. Hedron Archivefoil: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
  3. Mox Diamond: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
  4. Mox Opal: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
  5. Mox Tantalite: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
  6. Sensei's Divining Top:cut to weaken the artifact archetype

CREATURE

  1. Academy Manufactor: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
  2. Archfiend of Spite: madness is not part of Cumly Cube 1
  3. Arsenal Thresher: too weak
  4. Augmenting Automaton: too weak
  5. Autonomous Assembler: Assembly-Workers have been cut from Cumly Cube 1
  6. Baleful Force: too weak
  7. Battleground Geist: cut for a better Spirit card
  8. Belligerent Hatchling: too weak
  9. Bloodpyre Elemental: too generic of a red card
  10. Bloom Hulk: there are better proliferate engines available in Cumly Cube
  11. Copperhorn Scout: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
  12. Crosis, the Purger: too annoying to play against
  13. Deathrite Shaman: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
  14. Deus of Calamity: too weak
  15. Dutiful Replicator: Assembly-Workers have been cut from Cumly Cube 1
  16. Dwynen's Elite: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
  17. Emperor's Vanguard: cut to weaken green
  18. Farhaven Elf: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
  19. Fear of Exposure: cut to weaken green
  20. Fertilid: cut to weaken green
  21. Galazeth Prismari: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
  22. Geyserfield Stalker: too weak
  23. Greater Gargadon: suspend is not part of Cumly Cube 1
  24. Hallowed Priest: cut for an identical card to support the Cat creature type
  25. Heedless One: cut for a similar card to better support the Elf creature type
  26. Hematite Golem: too weak
  27. Hunted Horror: too weak
  28. Impetuous Devils: too generic of a red card
  29. Jeskai Student: too weak
  30. Junktroller: too weak
  31. Lashweed Lurker: emerge is not part of Cumly Cube 1
  32. Llanowar Visionary: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
  33. Lodestone Golem: we have seen enough of this card in other formats
  34. Lunar Avenger: too weak
  35. Maze Behemoth: cut to weaken green
  36. Mishra's Self-Replicator: Assembly-Workers have been cut from Cumly Cube 1
  37. Morselhoarder: too weak
  38. Night Incarnate: too generic of a black card
  39. Omnath, Locus of the Roil: cut to weaken the Elemental creature type
  40. Phantom Nishoba: too weak
  41. Quirion Ranger: cut to weaken the Elf creature type
  42. Scalding Devil: cut to make room for more interesting Devil creatures
  43. Self-Assembler: Assembly-Workers have been cut from Cumly Cube 1
  44. Seton, Krosan Protector: cut to weaken green
  45. Soul of Zendikar: cut to weaken green
  46. Teferi's Sentinel: too weak
  47. Thought Monitor: cut to weaken the artifact archetype
  48. Torbran, Thane of Red Fell: too generic of a red card
  49. Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre: cut to make room for more balanced Eldrazi creatures
  50. Walking Ballista: cut to remove an infinite combo payoff accessible from the Cumly Zone

ENCHANTMENT

  1. Aura Shards: too powerful
  2. Blood Moon: we have seen enough of this card in other formats
  3. Impending Disaster: too weak
  4. In Bolas's Clutches: cut for a similar but more expensive version of this effect
  5. Night Soil: cut due to the presence of two other very similar cards
  6. Revel in Riches: too powerful
  7. Urban Utopia: cut to weaken green

LAND

  1. Ancient Tomb: too powerful
  2. Flagstones of Trokair: too weak
  3. Mishra's Workshop: too powerful
  4. Urza's Saga: too powerful

INSTANT

  1. Accelerate: too generic of a red card
  2. Bedevil: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
  3. Fading Hope: too generic of a blue card
  4. Fissure: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
  5. Fracture: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
  6. Frazzle: too generic of a blue card
  7. Inside Out: too weak
  8. Lens Flare: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
  9. Schismotivate: too weak
  10. Seize the Initiative: too weak
  11. Volt Charge: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences

PLANESWALKER

  1. Karn Liberated: too generic and powerful of a draft pick
  2. Nissa of Shadowed Boughs: animating lands is not part of Cumly Cube 1

SORCERY

  1. Broken Bond: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
  2. Chain Reaction: too generic of a red card
  3. False Dawn: too weak
  4. Grim Tutor: too powerful
  5. Ice Storm: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
  6. Lava Flow: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
  7. Sinkhole: spot removal has been removed in favor of removal found in commands, charms, and confluences
  8. Tezzeret's Gambit: too powerful
  9. Wildfire: too generic of a red card

ADDED:

ARTIFACT

  1. Banner of Kinship: encourages building around creature types
  2. Conduit of Worlds: supports graveyard synergies
  3. Pillar of Origins: encourages building around creature types

CREATURE

  1. Aetherjacket: supports the Thopter creature type
  2. Ajani's Pridemate: replaces Hallowed Priest to support the Cat creature type and lifegain synergies
  3. Akroan Conscriptor: supports spellslinger synergies
  4. Alibou, Ancient Witness: supports the Golem creature type and other artifact decks
  5. Ancient Cellarspawn: supports the Demon, Horror, and Nightmare creature types
  6. Angelic Aberration: supports the Angel and Eldrazi creature types
  7. Axgard Artisan: supports the Dwarf creature type
  8. Bloodwater Entity: supports spellslinger synergies
  9. Brass Herald: supports the Golem creature type and encourages building around creature types
  10. Campus Guide: supports the Golem creature type
  11. Chief of the Foundry: supports the Construct creature type and other artifact decks
  12. Chrome Courier: supports the Thopter creature type
  13. Cursed Wombat: supports the Nightmare creature type and +1/+1 counter decks
  14. Darksteel Colossus: supports the Golem creature type
  15. Duergar Hedge-Mage: supports the Dwarf creature type
  16. Eidolon of Blossoms: supports the enchantment archetype
  17. Endbringer: supports the Eldrazi creature type
  18. Essence Depleter: supports the Eldrazi creature type
  19. Gimli, Mournful Avenger: supports the Dwarf creature type
  20. Gishath, Sun's Avatar: supports the Dinosaur creature type
  21. Herald of Slaanesh: supports the Demon creature type
  22. Hunting Velociraptor: supports the Dinosaur creature type
  23. Immaculate Magistrate: replaces Heedless One to support the Elf creature type
  24. It That Heralds the End: supports the Eldrazi creature type
  25. Kozilek's Channeler: supports the Eldrazi creature type
  26. Mayhem Devil: supports the Devil creature type
  27. Patrician Geist: replaces Battleground Geist to support the Spirit creature type
  28. Petravark: supports the Beast creature type
  29. Pillardrop Warden: supports the Dwarf and Spirit creature types
  30. Precursor Golem: supports the Golem creature type
  31. Prosperous Pirates: supports the Pirate creature type
  32. Quandrix Pledgemage: supports the Merfolk creature type and spellslinger synergies
  33. Roaming Throne: supports the Golem creature type and encourages building around creature types
  34. Rootwater Hunter: supports the Merfolk creature type
  35. Shambling Suit: supports the Construct creature type and other artifact decks as well as enchantment decks
  36. Shantotto, Tactician Magician: supports the Dwarf creature type and spellslinger synergies
  37. Smokebraider: supports the Elemental creature type
  38. Solarion: supports the Construct creature type
  39. Species Specialist: encourages building around creature types
  40. Squealing Devil: supports the Devil creature type
  41. Tayam, Luminous Enigma: supports the Beast and Nightmare creature types
  42. The Balrog of Moria: supports the Demon creature type
  43. The Lady of Otaria: supports the Dwarf creature type
  44. Three Tree Mascot: adds mana fixing and encourages building around creature types
  45. Titans' Vanguard: supports the Eldrazi creature type
  46. Torch Fiend: supports the Devil creature type
  47. Ulamog's Dreadsire: supports the Eldrazi creature type
  48. Vengeful Devil: supports the Devil creature type
  49. Venomcrawler: supports the Demon creature type
  50. Wavecrash Triton: supports the Merfolk creature type and spellslinger synergies
  51. Zara, Renegade Recruiter: supports the Pirate creature type

ENCHANTMENT

  1. Destructive Flow: offers a land destruction engine that can provide a large advantage in some decks
  2. Efficient Construction: supports the Thopter creature type
  3. Keldon Twilight: offers a creature destruction engine for aggressive decks
  4. Lay Claim: replaces In Bolas's Clutches as a more expensive control spell
  5. Might Makes Right: encourages large creatures and can be used in conjunction with sacrifice synergies as a creature destruction engine
  6. Porphyry Nodes: offers a creature destruction engine for slower decks
  7. Retreat to Kazandu: supports landfall synergies
  8. Shivan Harvest: offers a land destruction engine and supports sacrifice synergies
  9. Sunken Hope: offers a creature bounce engine for slower decks
  10. Whirlwind of Thought: supports spellslinger synergies

LAND

  1. Foundry of the Consuls: supports the Thopter creature type

INSTANT

  1. Atarka's Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  2. Aura Mutation: quite similar to Artifact Mutation
  3. Brokers Confluence: confluences have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  4. Cabaretti Confluence: confluences have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  5. Dromoka's Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  6. Kolaghan's Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  7. Lorehold Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  8. Maestros Charm: rounding out the charms in Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  9. Maestros Confluence: confluences have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  10. Obscura Charm: rounding out the charms in Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  11. Obscura Confluence: confluences have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  12. Ojutai's Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  13. Pulse of the Fields: supports lifegain synergies
  14. Quandrix Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  15. Riveteers Charm: rounding out the charms in Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  16. Silumgar's Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  17. Silverquill Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility
  18. Siren's Ruse: supports the Pirate creature type and blink synergies

PLANESWALKER

  1. Saheeli, Filigree Master: supports the Thopter creature type
  2. Vraska, Golgari Queen: supports sacrifice synergies

SORCERY

  1. Renegade Tactics: replaces Accelerate as a less typical red card
  2. Roar of the Crowd: encourages building around creature types
  3. Temporary Insanity: stealing creatures is a small but important part of Cumly Cube
  4. Witherbloom Command: commands have been added to Cumly Cube to provide interaction and versatility

SufferFromEDHD on Fiery Death by Dragons

2 years ago

Tel-Jilad Stylus fixes your Sneak Attack issue while feeding Zirilan.

Blazing Shoal is crucial for this deck to pull surprising early wins. We both run Dragon Tyrant and Greater Gargadon because they actual fit Zirilan strategy. The added bonus of a free +10 is insane.

Fury of the Horde I think this, like Blazing Shoal, is a quintessential card for a proper Zirilan shell. We only need to attack with a few dragons a few times. Being free allows you to go all in on Zirilan activations.

Is Cursed Mirror working out for you? A temporary red clone/permanent mana rock seems really good on paper.

scotchtapedsleeves on Marchezzy says "Goonies Never Die!"

3 years ago

Welcome to the Cult of Marchesa!

I definitely agree that this deck doesn't have enough sac outlets. When other players start to realize the gameplan, they'll be removing every outlet they see. It's important to keep well stocked!

Add:

  • Greater Gargadon is absolutely fantastic, opponents can't interact with it until it hits the field and by then you'll have drawn another outlet... hopefully.

  • Viscera Seer is a must, you need all the 1 drop outlets you can get.

  • Yawgmoth, Thran Physician is incredible. Free sac outlet that draws you cards AND is removal? Don't mind if I do.

  • Trophy Mage is an easy tutor for both Ashnod's and Phyrexian altar. I run Altar of Dementia instead of Phyrexian altar, so I run Trinket Mage instead of trophy. This also helps me get out my 2 drop mana rocks in a pinch.

Subtract:

  • Falkenrath Aristocrat has never hit for me, 4 mana for a flying outlet is fine, but she's never done well for me.

  • Scorn-Blade Berserker is fine, but think of the timing their effect will be applied on. If you're sacrificing it for Marchesa, it'll be coming back on that end step. If you want to take advantage of backup, you'd have to sac the backed-up creature during that end step. Ideally we want to avoid doing this as you won't have that creature for the whole next turn.

You mentioned that your partner was constantly being left with no blockers for opponent's combat. That's a difficult line to tread, generally Marchesa isn't enormously aggro although it might seem that way. Your goal is to abuse ETB and LTB triggers for maximum value, swinging with creatures only if you have a sac outlet to reset them for the next person's turn.

Add:

  • Kardur, Doomscourge can help with this massively as opponents won't be able to attack you for the next cycle. If he stays around until your next turn you can "flicker" him to goad everyone again!

  • Reef Worm is a pet card of mine, it can generate a huge amount of bodies if you have a Thran Vigil or Uncivil Unrest out. Fantastic sacrifice fodder even if it doesn't have a counter on it

  • Triskelion. You're playing Mikaeus, might as well finish up the combo

  • Imposter Mech is quickly becoming my favourite card. Once you have Marchesa out you generally don't want to attack with her, so you can use her to crew this every turn! Last game I cast it I copied an Avacyn, Angel of Hope to give you an idea of the bonkers stuff you can pull off with it

Subtract:

  • Gray Merchant of Asphodel Generally you don't want to be gaining life in this deck as you want to stay the dethrone target as long as possible. I've died a few times to my own hubris by not including lifegain, but the small amounts you'd be gaining with Gary in a Grixis deck don't make him worth it for me. Special exception to Kokusho, the Evening Star as 15 lifegain is backbreaking for your opponents.

That just about wraps up my thoughts, Marchesa can be pretty complex to play so feel free to reach out if you or your partner have any questions! Like I said, I don't generally play too aggro with my deck. Generally once opponents figure out what's going on you'll be getting a lot of removal thrown your way, but Marchesa is a super sticky commander, she won't leave if you don't want her too. Don't forget to sac in response to removal!

BakingIsPunk13 on Manslaughter and Petty Theft

3 years ago

Ender666666 Thank you so much for the feature and of course the feedback! Love the idea of Throne of the God-Pharaoh and will definitely include it. Yeah wasn't too sure about Greater Gargadon just for the cost really but I'll try it our for sure. Other than that I think I'll go ahead and cut the monarch package for some more lands and maybe a tutor or two.

Thanks again for everything

Ender666666 on Manslaughter and Petty Theft

3 years ago

Definitely add more lands if you don't run all the expensive Rick's that ping you. I'd suggest running Throne of the God-Pharaoh as something I never to find room for but want to try. Chromatic Lantern is amazing colour fixing so I always suggest that. Finally, I know it seems silly, but Greater Gargadon is a useful thing to do have... It's a Sac outlet in exile that can't be interacted with... Sometimes very useful to have.

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