Liliana, Dreadhorde General

Legendary Planeswalker — Liliana

Whenever a creature you control dies (is put into the graveyard from the battlefield), draw a card.

+1: Create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.

-4: Each player sacrifices two creatures.

-9: Each opponent chooses a permanent they control of each permanent type and sacrifices the rest.

Combos

• Liliana, Dreadhorde General + Undead Augur

Tokens

• Zombie 2/2 B

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (48)

wallisface on Modern Zombies

1 week ago

Some thoughts:

• Cabal Stronghold is not a good card, and i’d suggest ditching it. As its not a swamp itself, you need it and 4 swamps in play (5 lands total) just to break even. You don’t even get positive returns until you have 6 lands in play, and at that point you’re already at the top of your curve. Meanwhile, all the time before then it can’t offer black mana (only colourless), so is just going to mess with your early game tempo.

• Modern is a fast format, and has no real place for very high mana cards like Liliana, Dreadhorde General and Open the Graves - they cost too much mana, and are far too weak for the investment. I’d put Undead Warchief in this same bucket.

• You’re missing some key zombies like Carrion Feeder, Gravecrawler, and Undead Augur

• Ghoulish Procession feels very weak imo.

• Fatal Push > Feed the Swarm. Feed is a sideboard card at best.

AngryTortoise on Ding Dong Your Creature is Gone: High Power Yawg

2 weeks ago

Profet93 Thank you for the upvote and the suggestions! Both Karn, the Great Creator and Liliana, Dreadhorde General were actually part of this deck at one point, but they felt bad sometimes with Ad Nauseam. Your points are very valid though, and I'll definitely reconsider these cards!

Profet93 on Ding Dong Your Creature is Gone: High Power Yawg

2 weeks ago

AngryTortoise +1

Solid deck with super low curve, lots of synergy and relatively easy to grasp the concept.

Have you considered adding a Planeswalker? It would go well with profilerate. Karn, the Great Creator is one option to hose artifact decks (not to mention, make contamination more deadly as I'm assuming their mana dorks will be destroyed by you).

Liliana, Dreadhorde General, while high CMC, is very impactful and might be worth considering as well.

77hi77 on Zombie Tribal - Deciding My …

1 month ago

Max_Hammer I do actually have Liliana, Dreadhorde General, she's just in another deck (which would probably benefit more from Liliana of the Dark Realms, it's a whole thing). I think you're right, Varina will involve more milling and would enjoy Liliana, Death's Majesty. I've never considered Liliana, Death Mage, thank you!

You know what, I'm getting a very subtle sense that you don't like Nevvy, but I'm not so sure.

No, I definitely hear you, I think the biggest challenge in building that deck will be to make it fun to play against. The other deck I'm referencing (the one that my Dreadhorde General is currently in), I BEG YOUR [email protected] PARDON??!!! - Razaketh, is so far proving to be a failure at that. I was hoping to make something chaotic that results in a laugh, I ended up building a deck where the wincons involve no interaction with the other players, I just tutor and cast two cards (Fraying Omnipotence and Wound Reflection), and it really doesn't matter what the actual board state looks like. Everyone calls it my bullshit deck, it's not overpowered or tuned in any real way, it just lives in its own world and ends the game way too suddenly to be fun.

So with Nevvy, I like him because he seems to bring that same self-destructive chaos I was hoping to capture (and, down the line, will hope to capture again when I build a Rakdos the Defiler deck), my challenge will be to have that chaos without it feeling like I'm stopping others from playing. It's why I'm exploring a few different commanders, I want to see what leads to the most fun Zombie deck, without it being the exact same Zombie deck that everyone plays/expects to see.

As an aside, I do also have a proliferate deck in mind, but it'd be to pull off shenanigans like Vraska, Scheming Gorgon's -10.

77hi77 on Zombie Tribal - Deciding My …

1 month ago

Well, I just went ahead and got myself Varina, Lich Queen, Nevinyrral, Urborg Tyrant, and Grimgrin, Corpse-Born. Each deck will play differently, but I feel pretty good about them all being based on the Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver precon for the spine of the deck. I might even go wild and pick up a Sedris, the Traitor King to go for yet another colour route. For now I'll leave it at dimir and esper, figure those out and how I want those to play.

Now to decide which Liliana suits how I want each commander to play best (and try to justify the answer not being Liliana, Dreadhorde General because she ain't cheap)

Sleepysherlock on Saskia Fun-Fected Super Summer BLAST (Big n' WIDE)

2 months ago

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jarncards on Dead WOMan Walking

2 months ago

Fiend Artisan is green

I think Sidisi, Undead Vizier is awful unless you use a lot of reanimate effects, it's just so expensive to tutor. Geth, Lord of the Vault is crazy strong, but he's a totally different deck most of the time. I'd dump Liliana's Steward too. You and one other player go down a card, putting the rest of the table ahead of you by one card, but they also get to choose, so you're never going to get the card you want out of their hand.

Hobbling Zombie and other cards like it, like Putrid Goblin are excellent at keeping attacks away from you while you build up your board. and the pseudo revival effects let you abuse a lot of other zombie mechanics. Butcher Ghoul, and Geralf's Messenger or Doomed Dissenter are ok too. i wouldnt use Sightless Ghoul though. They are all better than Reassembling Skeleton though. Keep Relentless Dead. Im not sure if they make the cut, but they arent scary, but that means they are good at keeping a target off your back til youre readyfor one.

Magus of the Bridge is great for a non-zombie. Probably use it over Tainted Adversary, i feel like that one just costs way too much before its good. Dreadhorde Invasion is incredibly good, as is Mikaeus, the Unhallowed. i'd put those in for sure.Tormod, the Desecrator is still really good. Zombie Trailblazer is devastating to the person sitting to your left in particular or anyone playing five colors/ not black. When you REALLY need someone to not cast a spell. make all their lands swamps during the upkeep. almost every board wipe is a sorcery.

I think you might want to dump Thought Vessel for Mind Stone or even Blood Pet. In many cases discarding is beneficial to zombies. If you want to keep infinite hand size, Zombie Infestation and discard at will cards are pretty helpful.

I think Noxious Ghoul is the single best zombie card in the game, in this deck it basically says, tap your commander, wipe everyone else's boards. Use it.

Sutured Ghoul is runner up. If you include it and other high power zombies like Rotting Regisaur you can put him out as a 20+/xx easily, and then get 2/2s. HE doesnt play nice with mass reanimate, but he's an alternate win condition on his own. also its a great tool since youre probably gonna sac the dino and Phyrexian Soulgorger pretty quickly. If you sacrifice him on the end step before your turn i think you will almost always have a game ending horde.

Gray Merchant of Asphodel is utterly stupid. The absolute best reanimate target you could hope for. and since your card draw is gonna cost a ton of life, hes always going to be valuable. Whip of Erebos is probably the only other reasonable lifegain choice.That one makes aggressive attacking suddenly super safe

Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia is really cheap at making zombies if you dont have any other sources of decayed zombs. they cant block, but you get so many death triggers

Graveborn Muse is great card draw.

Hatred is usually better than Endless Scream

I think Gempalm Polluter is fantastic. its card draw, puts a big zombie into your graveyard, and hurts a player if things are going well.

I don't think Endless Ranks of the Dead is that great, but it certainly is cool. Wand of Orcus is really cool too. I'm not sure if its good though.

Board wipes will shut you down as you have things right now. Crowded Crypt and Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, that way, even if there's a board wipe you still have a whole army of zombs to multiply even after everything is dead. Rise of the Dread Marn is another fantastic option that you can abuse if you run things like Carrion Feeder too. Run Carrion Feeder, period. It lets you loop gravecrawler and saves yourself from control magic and exile spells.

Consider Toxic Deluge and STRONGLY CONSIDER Nevinyrral's Disk. Single target removal like tragic slip is ok because you can choose when things die, but other cards like Malicious Affliction are going to miss a lot of key targets. And you absolutely need to have a way to clear artifacts and especially enchantments.

Dark Salvation is pretty cool. not sure if it is good enough, but i'd use it rather than some of your spot removal.

Liliana, Dreadhorde General is really absurdly strong if you can get it out, and even if it dies the next turn you can draw a bunch off of it. Liliana, Heretical Healer  ^Flip you already know is great.

If you diversify your black lands, Field of the Dead is the best land. its silly how good it is. I'll start you off with the autoinclude Unholy Grotto. Malakir Rebirth  ^Flip is too.

I'll see what you make and see if i find anything else. later

KongMing on Fungi Garden

2 months ago

I recommend Krav, the Unredeemed as a way to draw cards without dumping a bunch of mana into it. Also gains you life. Only downside is it's not a Fungus.

Liliana, Dreadhorde General is great in this deck for many obvious reasons.

And hey, since there's so much sacrifice going on, why not Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest?

Now, your graveyard. Seems to me you need more steady ways to toss Fungus in there. How about Cemetery Tampering, Crawling Infestation, Crawling Sensation, Crop Sigil, Uurg, Spawn of Turg, Deathbonnet Sprout  ^Flip, Nyx Weaver, Old Rutstein, Out of the Tombs, Splinterfright, and Throne of Death  ^Flip.

Deadbridge Chant isn't steady, but it's great explosive mill.