Creature — Goblin Pirate
When Dockside Extortionist enters the battlefield, create X Treasure tokens, where X is the number of artifacts and enchantments your opponents control. (Treasure tokens are artifacts with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Gain one mana of any colour.")
|Want (3)||Redbeard09 , ZMikeD , Gemini4786|
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- Altar of Dementia + Dockside Extortionist + Underworld Breach
- AEther Adept + Dockside Extortionist
- Archaeomancer + Dockside Extortionist + Ghostly Flicker
- Capsize + Dockside Extortionist
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Dockside Extortionist Discussion
1 day ago
Back with a few updates:
Settled on Glimpse of Tomorrow as a must include. I feel like it fits the all-or-nothing and chaotic style of the deck so well, and I like the element of randomness. Taking out Dark-Dweller Oracle out for it, as all the recent draw additions make Oracle less necessary.
Temporarily (maybe?) taking out Dockside Extortionist for another basic. I don't own Extortionist yet and its price is...extortionate. Also I cut a land when I added Valakut Awakening Flip and I think that may have been the wrong move. I've always been able to play with a very lean landbase, but that always meant 33 lands. I need to re-evaluate if that can go any lower after a bunch more games. If my new meta has a large number of artifacts it Extortionist will likely make it back in.
I think it's finally time to add Cavern of Souls . This is obviously a nice-to-have and not a must-have, but it should help with the big influx of new counterspells.
Considering re-adding a card that was in the deck very, very long ago with Gravity Sphere . My meta has a lot of flyers and it certainly helps, but I would have a hard time removing anything I am currently running.
Thoughts on Sol Talisman ? I like it, I just don't know that I need it.
Also hoping to clean up the primer over the weekend, especially to update categories with old info in them.
1 day ago
Thank you so much for your interest in my deck and this thorough suggestion list and comment. So starting off with the draw you suggested, I kinda missed War Room , I am currently making up a list of things I want to change and I'm slightly changing up the pacing and direction and will be adding more draw. So War Room will definitely be one on the list. Tome of Legends is on my list already so thank you for confirmation on a good draw, especially with Norin popping in and out every turn. I don't know why but Endless Atlas doesn't feel too good to me, maybe if it were 1 mana I'd probably throw that in too but as is I'll pass. Humble Defector my current meta isn't super into playing nice politics so I haven't considered this, also the lack of abusable ETB makes me lean against it. I'll probably talk more on my meta at the end of the comment. As for Ignite the Future and Light Up the Stage they have been kinda on a watchlist, the list I'm working on is gonna look to make big plays with a handful of x cost spells so the flashback with Ignite the Future is less spicy in that sense but still a card I'm looking into playtesting a bit.
Moving on to the Ramp suggestions Curse of Opulence seems nice and I will definitely consider it as I change Norin up to keep it feeling a bit more fresh. Dockside Extortionist I haven't picked up yet because I support my LGS as much as possible and they ones I frequent the most haven't had any in stock when I've been there, and the one time they did - money was a factor. As for the crypt and the gauntlet, I have been playing magic for 20 some years now so many of the pricey cards weren't so pricey when I got them and also have had a healthy local trading market. Yes Myriad Landscape is too slow for my liking. You are correct in your assumption that I am not running Ruby Medallion because of the high amount of artifacts I'm running. It will likely be reconsidered. Sword of the Animist seems kinda good on paper, but my meta likes to do lots of spell casting on other peoples turns so I feel bad spending 2 to equip only to have someone cast a spell and make Norin go away. Oh, and as for Gauntlet of Power and Caged Sun both are going in with my next big change so stay tuned lol.
Utility & Misc. Chandra, Torch of Defiance is good, I'll consider it but not sure where to fit it in, also she will never live to see her -7 in my meta. Dualcaster Mage wasn't considered because I'm only running 9 sorcery and 1 instant and most of them not super great to duplicate, my new list may change this so I may come back and reconsider. Sunbird's Invocation seems perfect for the new list I'm cooking up, thank you! I will definitely play test that. Blast Zone just seems meh, I don't like the XX cost, I haven't found too many enchantments I've wanted to remove and when I do I make them artifacts and destroy them or take them. Flametongue Kavu and Inferno Titan just seem too expensive for what they do, the Kavu being limited to creatures is a bummer imo. Terror of the Peaks should go on to replace Warstorm Surge I'll have to look into that. And lastly Zealous Conscripts used to be in the deck along with a Goblin Recruiter and Moggcatcher and every game was basically the same, tutor for kiki and either gamble or wheel into zealous it felt boring and I didn't enjoy playing it. Might make a return one day in the right meta.
As for your synergy suggestion, I would add it but my new list is actually going to omit Mind's Eye.
Now for my meta... well I currently find myself in limbo as just a few weeks ago my group had a bit of a falling out. Basically, one of my friends became the direct boss of others in the group and he had to let one of them go from the company during covid lockdowns and it just created a lot of bad blood. Drama aside, we had some people showing up with cEDH decks when others were playing intentionally suboptimal decks and only one other person would play nice politics with me so it was kind of difficult at times. Ridiculous amounts of removal, both targeted and mass, so I typically felt somewhat okay running a bit light on that. Also with reds artifact hate and the ability to turn things into artifacts I never really felt disadvantaged.
As I said a few times I am making some changes and I'll be adding things like Firecat Blitz and Tempt with Vengeance to dump a mass amount of creatures in at once for those warstorm/pandemonium effects. I am currently focusing primarily on a new Alesha, Who Smiles at Death deck that you may enjoy, I hope to get it up and made public in the next two or three days. And if you enjoyed this Norin deck for it's low cmc curve you may enjoy the Alesha deck because it's even lower!
Thank you again for taking interest and thanks for the upvote. All of these suggestions are appreciated. :) I hope you have a great weekend.
2 days ago
They're a little expensive, but given how pricey this deck already is, I figured you could probably include them without too much of a hassle.
1 week ago
The only one that’s worth adding in my opinion from MH2 is the monkey Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer . Although with Dockside Extortionist , Jeska's Will , Commune with Lava , Phyrexian Altar and other similar effects I’m not sure it’s worth it
1 week ago
I've been brewing up a lot of the commanders from the set. Though so far I think Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer and Lonis, Cryptozoologist will be the most interesting. Ragavan slots nicely into a lot of 99s that little monkey is going to do so much work - I've paired it up with Lantern of Insight and have a feeling it'll generate heaps of salt. Lonis on the other hand can be a fun and fair clues deck or a degenerate Aluren bounce house deck even with the prevalence of Dockside Extortionist I think it'll make a splash.
The other commanders either don't have enough support at least from my perspective or they're the same theme with a different spin - not that, that is entirely a bad thing but it puts too much stress on my collection to be able to participate in sanctioned events.
1 week ago
I like your deck and it's avg cmc. How do you deal with the lack of card draw red has? I see you have some wheels, but without a reliable way to tutor for them or draw into them, wouldn't it be best to add more general card draw to help ensure you don't run out of gas. Have you considered the following....
Humble Defector - Draw + Politics. I use homeward path in my build for this slight synergy and politics with confusion in the ranks. Not needed but fun. Also noteworthy is homeward path's ability to mess with opposing GY shenanigans should they attempt to reanimate ours/other creatures
Curse of Opulence - T1 Norin, T2 Curse. T3 Profit + Politics
Dockside Extortionist - Speaking of treasure, is he not included due to price? I see you have gauntlet of might and mana crypt so I'm unsure if you have budget restrictions
Myriad Landscape - Or is it too slow?
Ruby Medallion - Are you not running this due to it's inability to ramp artifacts? I find it useful nevertheless, especially when trying to dump your hand, I think its potential use outweighs the lack of artifact ramp.
Sword of the Animist - T1 Norin, T2 Sword, T3 Norin grabs the sword, swings at the enemy, runs away back to safety while grabbing a land. I like land ramp due to it being less susceptible to removal and fueling valakut.
Dualcaster Mage - Value + combo with heat shimmer or twinflame should you wish to go that route. Each of those cards fuels ETB synergies as well.
Sunbird's Invocation - Expensive to cast but THE VALUE if it sticks. Hit or miss with many players, but has won me too many games to count. Perhaps my meta might be a bit more relaxed than yours though
Blast Zone - See no way for you to interact with enchantments. This might help should you wish. Nice with crucible
Flametongue Kavu - Removes most creatures, although it kills itself if its the only targettable creature on board
Inferno Titan - Burn, baby burn!
Terror of the Peaks - Burn baby burn part 2!
Zealous Conscripts - ETB value + Combo with Kiki-Jiki
A synergy to put in your description is Honor Shaku + Norin + Mind's eye = Draw during each opponent's draw step by tapping norin to fuel honor and honor to fuel mind's eye
Looking forward to your response to each suggestion. +1, nice deck. Would love to know more about your meta as well.
1 week ago
darkin10s Excellent question. You're correct in the sense that Warp World is kind of a board wipe but let me paint a picture of the board state (not just my board). Warp World has us "shuffle all permanents he or she owns into his or her library", meaning it sees all those tokens as permanents even though they technically stop existing once they leave the battlefield. Then we reveal from the top of our Library, and in summary, put all permanents revealed onto the battlefield (not including Planeswalkers, hence the "in summary").
Warp World itself isn't putting tokens onto the battlefield but many of the permanents it would hit produce tokens for the extra value (all the creatures that make extra thopters when they enter). This is why cards like Dockside Extortionist , Brass's Bounty , Smothering Tithe , or Revel in Riches are so good before a Warp World cast, because we get extra card flips and potential permanents on the field for only a single card slot in the deck.
Warp World is more of a "hurts everyone, but hurts me the least" type of strategy that we are going for. We're working under the assumption that we have the most tokens onto the battlefield than the rest of the players, otherwise it's not worth casting. The value that we get is that we are making so many tokens because many of our cards put out either an extra treasure token or maybe a couple thopters.
Here is a very basic example that will help paint the picture with some simple math (this exact situation is not a likely scenario for a game but I think it gets across the idea). Lets assume everyone has played the same number of cards by turn seven and they have either tricked out a land or maybe played a mana rock, and maybe everyone has 2 creature and one enchantment. So everyone has 7 lands, 1 rock or extra land, 2 creatures, 1 enchantment = 11 permanents. But the 2 creatures I played are maybe Whirler Rogue and Thopter Engineer so I actually have 14 permanents since I've got 3 extra creature tokens. Now what if the enchantment I played was Smothering Tithe and it went a whole round on the table and wasn't paid for, meaning (in this fake scenario) I have 3 extra treasures. Now my permanent count is at 17 compared to everyone else's 11 count when I cast Warp World; I get to flip 17 cards from the top of my deck and everyone else gets to flip 11. This still wipes all players battlefields, but I'm counting on hitting more permanents when I flip with my extra chances. Plus if one of the cards I flip is a Experimental Aviator or maybe Myr Battlesphere , that single permanent I now gave me extra permanents for my board state, so I am recovering much more quickly from this type of wipe than my opponents.
This is obviously not a hyper optimized strategy because it's highly reliant on board state, it may not even be beneficial for you at times, but it's fun when it does happen.
2 weeks ago
Well then! That's a lot to consider, but the 2 standouts are Dockside Extortionist and Flawless Maneuver . I'd like to find slots for both of those in here but cuts are getting difficult plus I have my eye on a couple new toys from MH2. Thanks for the suggestions though, definitely has me thinking.