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Rule of Law
Each player can't cast more than one spell each turn.
6 days ago
If you're looking for help making cuts, the first step I would take is to look at your symmetrical stax pieces and see which ones hurt you the most:
Deafening Silence, Grafdigger's Cage, Containment Priest, Ethersworn Canonist, Hushbringer, Kataki, War's Wage, Leonin Arbiter, Rest in Peace, Sphere of Resistance, Spirit of the Labyrinth, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Trinisphere, Sanctum Prelate, Rule of Law, Thorn of Amethyst, whew I think that's all.
Of these, you want to look at the ones which most hamper what you want to do, or have negative synergies with other cards you run. You have a few cards that say "draw", so Spirit of the Labyrinth is IMO the very first cut you should make.
The next ones I'd cut could take one of two routes: so, I'm thinking of cards like Ethersworn Canonist and Sphere of Resistance. These kind of innately have negative synergy - if people are paying more for spells, they're less likely to be able to cast multiple spells in the first place, meaning the Canonist's ability is wasted. You should consider going for one type of effect or the other, not both. (I wouldn't run either symmetrically in mono-white, personally).
Council's Judgment can probably be cut - you have great enough removal without running it.
kataki definitely needs to go with how many artifacts you're running.
1 month ago
Luminarch Ascension definitely can attract attention when you play it, you either need to be in a pillowfort or have a wide board already. It makes lots of sense in a White deck that doesn't play a lot of other flyers, and would love to have access to some mid/late game, and expects to be able to block/be a bad player to swing at for whatever reason. In a deck where you already have a flyer on board usually (and possibly others as well), Ascension looks a little worse, but it also means you are more likely to be able to stop flying attackers to help get counters on Ascension. My solution is to run it in a deck where you have lots of support for it, I run it in Zur, where I put it in because he could fetch it, but found I liked drawing into it (especially early) a great deal. I'll list some stuff that can help it out below, first some 'fun' stuff, and second a bit of 'deeply unfun Stax' stuff, I'm not sure what you play against/people will tolerate.
Stuff like Archon of Emeria or Eidolon of Rhetoric (or even Rule of Law or Arcane Laboratory, or Deafening Silence or Ethersworn Canonist) can slow down players' ability to progress their board states, but your Commander comes with a mana sink attached that you can dump mana into. Rule of Law is a funny card, because it's really good in cEDH and against fairly competitive decks that hope to storm off, but vs decks with lots of big spells it can feel pointless, so it's not an especially salty stax piece in Casual play, even if it can be at the highest levels. Anyways, Ascension also likes stuff like this, it provides you with a potentially much stronger outlet for your extra mana, while possibly causing your opponents to waste some every turn due to Rule. Note, if you have Rule out, destroying Ascension will probably use up someone's spell for the turn, which probably will feel pretty bad for them. You could try Sterling Grove, which can find Asension or protect it, depending on the order you draw them. Greater Auramancy also exists, but it's pricey and does only one thing that may or may not matter, great to have both out though.
There are also stronger (and nastier obviously) things you can run like Crackdown, which will seriously hinder combat for anyone not running White creatures, which you (and your angel tokens) could ignore, but I'm not sure if this is appropriate for your power level, just mentioning that nastier stuff exists that make cards like Luminarch Ascension feel much better.
2 months ago
Odd thought maybe, but I wonder how would work in a werewolves deck, just to give you Rule of Law effects. Things like Deafening Silence or even Ethersworn Canonist might just be super annoying ways to keep your wolves were. I have no idea how it would work, or the logistics of adding white, but maybe?
2 months ago
The_War_Mammoth Simic or blue/green have a lot of low cost synergies and combos that go for easy wins like taking turns or Birthing Pod strategies. But if you enjoy stax and control then I highly recommend Urza, Lord High Artificer he has strong synergy with cards like Winter Orb, Static Orb, Trinisphere and Back to Basics. To win with him you assemble infinate mana through a couple different options Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter , Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth , Grim Monolith + Power Artifact or Basalt Monolith this let's you draw your deck with his ability and traditionally you use Thassa's Oracle or Laboratory Maniac to end it. Being in blue also gives you access to counterspells which is where most of you control will come from. Some of the artifacts and combo pieces may be expensive for him though, but another option though in 3 colors is Zur the Enchanter he let's you play a spell for free when he hits letting you grab Stasis, Rule of Law or Spirit of the Labyrinth to punish opponents winning involves swinging zur until you kill each opponent with coleander damage. Also you can run Necropotence to draw your deck out and win via Thassa's Oracle, obviously he is in blue so counter spells will go a long way to control your opponents.
3 months ago
As people in the thread said, if you really wanted your playgroup to hate you, things like Armageddon, Null Rod, Deafening Silence, Spirit of the Labyrinth, Rule of Law, Archon of Emeria, Angel of Jubilation, Thorn of Amethyst, Sphere of Resistance, Winter Orb, and Smokestack are all super fun cards you can run.
3 months ago
Stax, tax & boardwipes? Forcing your own weaknesses for others to enjoy is something white is great at. Not many great tutors? Aven Mindcensor, now neither do you. Bad at drawing cards? Spirit of the Labyrinth, now you are too. Overwhelming me with many spells I can't keep up with? Rule of Law. I don't have very efficient noncreature spells compared to other colors? Thalia, Guardian of Thraben now neither do you.
All these things are powerful, and giving white good carddraw so they can collect and stack these kinds of effects, will make white a lot more powerful, which is why it's a good thing that Rhystic Study isn't actually white, even though it feels like a white effect.
Yet, Mentor of the Meek, Dawn of Hope, Welcoming Vampire, Esper Sentinel, Bennie Bracks, Zoologist, Bygone Bishop, Thorough Investigation, even when you exclude colorless supplements, white is building a catalog of consistent carddraw anyway, especially if you consider Teleportation Circle has an array of targets to blink for carddraw in mono W as well: Spirited Companion, Inspiring Overseer, Priest of Ancient Lore, Thraben Inspector, Professor of Symbology, Resistance Squad, Search Party Captain and Wall of Omens.
Also strategy-specific stuff like Mesa Enchantress, Sram, Senior Edificer, Puresteel Paladin, Losheel, Clockwork Scholar. I think it's weird to say white can't draw cards, I'd say you're not trying hard enough if you're still complaining about that today. At least for Commander. In 1v1 formats, carddraw just isn't as important to win the game if it has to happen before turn 5.
4 months ago
@ McToters Thank you for checking out my list and taking the time to comment! Most of the time the goal of my list is to find a loop utilizing Teshar that goes infinite as soon as possible. Example (1) Teshar + Myr Retriever + Ashnod's Altar + Memnite. Example (2) Teshar + Lion's Eye Diamond + Salvage Scout. These are only a few examples of many as the deck gets its consistency by running numerous redundant effects.
I don't often sac my entire board. But I have sometimes sacrificed most of the artifacts I control in response to another player casting Dockside Extortionist.
I do think Second Sunrise is a fantastic card in a casual Teshar list where the goal isn't to combo out as soon as possible but to create value engine and win in the long run.
5 months ago
You didn't specify which deck you were playing when you bashed Mindbreak Trap. You were arguing that Iona would help the situation in the same paragraph, I assumed you were playing white. Rule of Law wouldn't prevent the Trap from being cast, it would prevent your plays being "countered for free, because, you know, blue" because 4 spells in a turn under Rule of Law is kinda hard to realize. Red Elemental Blast breaks the Mindbreak Trap in mono red.
Of course the blue player could play many artifacts to get out under Iona. If it's right to play Wurmcoil Engine in your deck, 40% of your deck will likely be colorless cards and you will shrug about Iona the way Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist shrugs about Null Rod. Just because you're not effected doesn't mean the card is not breaking something.
I once had a Heliod, Sun-Crowned mono white +1/+1 counter deck that really relied heavily on the Commander's ability to generate those counters. Then the Mogis, God of Slaughter player ramped out an Erebos, God of the Dead on turn 3, and got mana screwed after, never gathering enough devotion for my Swords to Plowshares to solve this Indestructible enchantment that was blocking out the very tactic I built my deck around. Now I know there's a few cards in white that could exile enchantments, but I'm not playing Forsake the Worldly when Shinewend has a similar function with a lot more synergy with my deck. My opponents wouldn't touch the player with Erebos, because it seemed to be completely immobilizing me. Yet I got by with a Mother of Runes, a True Conviction and my commander for player removal and went on to win that game after the Mogis player died.
My Juri, Master of the Revue deck got Leyline of the Voided, rendering all my Nether Traitor clones and Blood Artist variants useless for what they were supposed to do. Yet Ophiomancer, Goblin Bombardment and Impact Tremors made for a fast enough clock to make the leyline player regretting making themselves a target.
So yes, I think you're a bit of a drama queen for complaining this much about single card counterplays for your main strategy and how they shouldn't exist because you want to be able to do unimpeded what your deck is supposed to do.
Especially because at the same time, you started this topic to argue bringing back a card that does exactly that to others in a different deck you play.
You've said in this topic that Rest in Peace shouldn't exist in the format because specifically your archetype can't deal with it. At the same time you said Iona, Shield of Emeria being unbanned would "help the situation". You're both salty about being locked and advocating you should be able to lock others. And yet you don't see what's wrong with that, despite your superior reading comprehension.