Vorel of the Hull Clade

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Pioneer Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Vorel of the Hull Clade

Legendary Creature — Human Merfolk

, : Double the number of each kind of counter on target artifact, creature, or land.

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Psicholat on Counters Evolution

3 months ago

Ouroboros_47 thanks!

On the issue of bigger creatures:

The creatures with Evolve in the deck should be easily triggered, in order of evolution, by Vorel of the Hull Clade `s 4 toughness, a fed Avatar of the Resolute *, and a fat Hydroid Krasis with all the ramp and mana available. Additionally, the increase in counters should be empowered by spells, enchantments, and creature abilities (Vorel and Zameck Guildmage, hell even by lands. I thought of options of bigger creatures, but wanted them cheap to make the deck quicker - hence the lands in the maybe which for 2/3 mana can put on the table 0/6 or even 0/7 certainly triggering Evolve. Sticking with the first option tho for now.

On the suggestions:

I like the Pelt Collector!! Its cheap and it should be easy to "evolve", and trample is a nice addition as it also fits the theme of the deck. Thanks! I will pass on the Geist tho, I feel there are other better options.

Thanks!!

_Delta_ on Simic Lands

5 months ago

Glad to be of help! It was late and I realized after I suggested still a few things you had already included but by a later point couldn't go back to edit them. I admit I never got into asking some questions perhaps on the exact power level or anything like that but I get why you might not wish to add some of these. I use all the ones named regarding that self-mill strategy (Laboratory Maniac etc) in a Kruphix, God of Horizons deck I have which is capable of some explosive plays when I start generating ridiculous amounts of mana and or cast something like Omniscience with ways to draw a crazy amount of cards. But it also plays a bunch of big creatures like the Eldrazi if I want to win in a more straightforward, combat-focused way. I get the appeal of wanting to build up a big boardstate, and Simic colours are great for that.

I'll also just say that I started Magic back in approx 2013 and was the colour pair I fell in love with for deckbuilding and during my first little while with the game me and some friends played at a pretty casual level too. In fact, before I even knew much of anything about all the various formats, I played a Simic deck which was like 80 cards filled with stuff like an Arcanis the Omnipotent with multiple ways to untap it and some other things with useful activated abilities, a playset of Roil Elementals which I protected with counterspells and Archetype of Endurance (they were fun to use alongside Explosive Vegetation and similar effects), Lifeblood Hydra, Horizon Chimera were others, and finally some goodies like Prophet of Kruphix (rip its commander banning) and later additions like Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger.

Some of this became a Vorel of the Hull Clade commander deck for a while, but I still really always liked the theme of lands early on which is why I made a Lord Windgrace deck and now most recently an Omnath, Locus of Creation deck.

And having a lot of lands can be made to work, it's for one thing unfortunate that many of the cards in this theme which allow you to play extra lands from hand or graveyard are so costly even despite some reprints so there were a lot of ideas I skipped suggesting. I still think you should keep an eye out for Ramunap Excavator if you have a good chance to acquire one because you do have a significant number of lands which either can be sacrificed, cycled, or in some way become a creature and at some point die, so having another way to earn a few more back could be useful outside of World Shaper, Splendid Reclamation, and The Mending of Dominaria which I see is nonetheless your general gameplan.

Some of my decks which can be seen on my profile are complete / nearly fully owned, but yet others I build them how I want them to be eventually a little later and I definitely get wanting to make choices that are budget friendly with myself still as a student. I have for one thing been smart or simply gotten lucky and picked up a lot of cards from buying/trades when they were either cheap / reprinted over the years which has made a few of my decks creep up in price now (my best example of this was acquiring a Sliver Queen for $100 CAD worth of trades (approx $76 US) like five years ago. Anyway, if I do think of more stuff which could be of use here I'll let you know btw!

Silly-Go-Round on But I wanna play Hydras [Help Needed]

1 year ago

Stuff I'd consider in no particular order.

Nature's Lore

Voracious Hydra

Steelbane Hydra - this one in particular has what you're looking for in enchantment hate, but I'll have a section specifically for that too.

Curse of the Swine

Hydroid Krasis - a little above your price range, but a fantastic hydra.

Elementalist's Palette

Lifeblood Hydra - just under 10 bucks, definitely a solid upgrade.

Vorel of the Hull Clade

Evolution Sage

Death Denied

Three Visits

Skyshroud Claim

Explosive Vegetation

Exponential Growth

Greater Good

Unbound Flourishing

I'd also consider looking up all the different duals that show up in sultai and picking up some of the cheaper ones? I google "word for the color identity of the deck I'm playing and dual lands" and theres a few sites there generally with prices. Also going up like, 3/4 more lands since 33 seems slim and you don't have a lot of mana rocks/dorks to shore that up.

enchantment removal I've used/like/I think would be good here.

Krosan Grip

Gaze of Granite

Pest Infestation

Sultai Charm

Maelstrom Pulse

Molder

Windgrace's Judgment

As for stuff I'd cut.

Edge of Autumn - theres better ramp cards and I suggested a few above

Grow from the Ashes - see above

Font of Fertility - see above

Frontier Siege - this seems kinda medium if all were doing with it is adding 2 extra mana, I like that it's modal but you're never going to pick that mode since we don't have a lot of flyers in hydras.

Icy Blast - I see where you're coming from with this, and I think it could definitely put in work, but I also feel like theres probably either hard removal that you could play for the same amount of mana that would make this useful, or something similar.

Personally I'd also cut the counter spells for more stuff that draws/removes but I understand why they're here.

I hope this helps, sorry if it's long winded, and good luck with the list!!

Wendithewendigo on LGBTQ+ in the multiverse

1 year ago

It seems like a good idea, but it could be too wordy to explain on a card. Could it be doubled by things like Vorel of the Hull Clade? If not then what is it, because then it's not a counter. The text would need to be very long and specific.

TefflonDice on Let's See

1 year ago

New cards arrived today - woot!

Only a handful of replacements

Artifacts Out: Simic Locket , Manalith in Replicating Ring , Cosmos Elixir

Creatures Out: Trollbred Guardian , Whiptongue Hydra , Vorel of the Hull Clade , Sharktocrab , Progenitor Mimic and Biomancer's Familiar

Joining the team (from my MTGA Brawl deck)

The Tarrasque , Wandering Archaic  Flip , Tanazir Quandrix , Volo, Guide to Monsters , Thorn Mammoth and Kogla, the Titan Ape.

Nothing crazy as I'm trying to keep this deck fun with a chance to win out of no where. Hence the decks name :)

Any ideas are welcome!

zapyourtumor on big boi

1 year ago

Definitely needs to be more focused. Right now it's all over the place, and has a ton of singletons which is usually a dead giveaway that the deck is trying to do too much at the same time (I assume this might be because the deck was made up of your paper collection?).

I'd first take out all the cards that definitely don't synergize, and cards that don't do enough. All the artifacts, Traverse the Ulvenwald , Karametra's Acolyte , New Prahv Guildmage , Realmwright , Vorel of the Hull Clade fall under this.

Next you should get rid of the really slow cards: Lavinia of the Tenth , Medomai the Ageless , Mind Control , etc.

Now, what do you want the deck to be? Do you want a bant midrange deck? A bant taxes deck more focused on creatures? A dedicated +1/+1 counter deck? A creature toolbox deck? Knowing what direction you want your deck to go is always the first step to get out of the way before you actually start building it. I doubt you actually want a control deck because a dedicated control deck would have none of these creatures, and a bunch of counterspells and removal (while this deck only has one of each). Once you have that sorted out, it's a lot easier for people to give suggestions on your deck, because right now most people would just be really confused and give up after a few minutes.

wallisface on Proliferating Proliferaters

1 year ago

Some thoughts:

  • Modern is a very fast format, and so it’s very rare to see people playing cards above 4cmc. I would suggest trying to lower your mana curve, by dropping those cmc5 & 6 cards, and playing more stuff in the 1-2 slot.

  • even with the above, 20 lands feels very low. The majority of your cards require 3 mana, and without ramp I would expect such a deck to want 22-23 lands.

Some cards i can suggest that might be of interest to you:

monkeyofficeboy on Ezuri, Claw in Progress

1 year ago

Update 1 Cards Added In

Vigean Graftmage A cheap creature, with some +1/+1 syneregy, and a useful ability too. An easy add.

Cloudfin Raptor Another cheap creature that triggers Ezuri, and a flyer too. On top of that Evolve will help out too if it triggers.

Bring to Light A way of finding a flyer, a mana rock, or another creature. Not the cheapest card, but pays for itself with its ability to cast the follow up card for no mana.

Primeval Bounty Triggers Ezuri with its tokens, adds counters when non-creatures are cast, and some incidental Lifegain too? Easy add, just a shame its expensive.

Treasure Cruise In this deck the graveyard is dead space, so Delve is perfect here. More card draw is no bad thing.

Thrummingbird A cheap flyer that triggers Ezuri, and can also Proliferate too.

Hornet Queen Yes, it's a token generator, but the tokens are so very useful its worth the price. Plus triggers Ezuri too.

Sagu Mauler Potentially a finisher that can protect itself, and when it comes in as a Morph it will trigger Ezuri too. This is an experimental add to see if it works the way I hope it does.

Fathom Mage An Evolve card that adds card draw too. On top of that it triggers Ezuri, and I can never resist a foil!

Vorel of the Hull Clade Really obvious inclusion for boosting counters, and has great synergy with Ezuri.

Murkfiend Liege No they aren't counters but boosting the power of all blue and green creatures, plus having them available every turn is too tempting not to include.

Simic Manipulator Again an Evolve card and a way to make use of lots of +1/+1 counters.

Temple of Mystery Slow dual land with an additional Scry. An easy change for one of the many basics.

Yavimaya Coast Untapped dual land, foil, and allows me colourless if i don't want the pain. An easy swap for a Vivid land.

Botanical Sanctum If I need it untapped, it comes in untapped. If I can afford to wait, then well it gets played later! Again an easy upgrade on a basic.

Hinterland Harbor Again another easy swap for a Vivid land. If it comes out at the right time then it gets played untapped. If it doesn't then, well... I guess I didn't need it that badly.

Llanowar Elves More mana. Triggers Ezuri. Easy.

Animation Module Plenty of opportunity to trigger, and gives more Ezuri triggers too. Can also add more counters to other things too. Its versatility makes it an easy inclusion.

Primordial Hydra A big finisher that leans into the Counters theme.

Managorger Hydra Another creature that has the potential to grow into a large finisher, with Trample to get me there.

Elvish Mystic See Llanowar Elves

Skyrider Elf If I am honest this is basically a placeholder for something better, but its a flyer and also has good synergy due to convergence.

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