Dovin's Veto

Instant

This spell can't be countered.

Counter target noncreature spell.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (46)

hootsnag on Oloro White Blue Black Creatureless Control V2

1 week ago

I am moving away from counterspells that can't target creatures. I left in Dovin's Veto only because it can't be countered. If there were more counterspells that countered all spells and only cost 2 or less, I would add them. I own an original Legends Mana Drain and it's in my Oloro deck now. I had to make a choice with Rest in Peace. I decided to cut it because I wanted to be able to return cards out of my graveyard. I didn't like the graveyard exiling version of this deck so I reverted it and improved the win conditions. I don't currently run enough enchantments for Hall of Heliod's Generosity to be useful. As long as I am able to keep Soldevi Digger and Planar Portal in play, I can return ANY type of card from my graveyard back to my hand. Academy Ruins makes sure that can happen as often as needed. We will always disagree with Reflecting Pool. I cannot afford to draw it in my opening hand as my only land in this deck. It's an instant mulligan. I considered every single land currently printed in magic that can tap for any color. I decided against Glimmervoid and a few others a long time ago. I don't want artifact removal also destroying my land. It's not a good plan. Archway of Innovation is a great land for heavy artifact decks but not for this deck. Most of my artifacts tap for more mana than I would get from using it or have other abilities and need to be untapped to use. The only other card I'm still debating on adding is Isochron Scepter. I may still cut something for it. Run a few playtests with this so you can really see why I made the choices I did. You'll understand more then. Also, I'm preparing to make a different version of this deck with Sivitri, Dragon Master as the commander.

Azoth2099 on Rafiq, The One Hit Wonder

2 weeks ago

Hey man, you need more mana rocks! Consider your guild signets and talismans.

As far as defeating a BW control deck, I'd recommend just running more counter magic. Dovin's Veto & Permission Denied could be good choices! A few more silence effects like Silence, Grand Abolisher & Orim's Chant could go a long way as well.

Joker4242 on Aldaan

3 months ago

Here are a few defender cards I thought of later on, in case you are interested. I would be interested to see you put the deck together. If you put it together on this website you can test it out!

List:
Overgrown Battlement
Axebane Guardian
Vent Sentinel
Blight Pile
Also, just some cards to help you from removal because that will be how your opponent's will try to get past your defenses.
Make a Stand
Blinding Fog
Dovin's Veto
Render Silent
Best removal for Defender cards
Slaughter the Strong

Swing4Lethal on Esper Control 3.0

4 months ago

The Reef would replace one of the Vents if it did come in. It's twice the power and hurts their library as well, but I don't know if it will make it in or not. I will do some testing with it and see how it does. Glad to hear the deck is working well for you! I also feel the deck is in a nice spot and it may just not need the shark land, but I do love the card lol.

What are your sideboard swaps when playing against Rakdos Vampires?

I like:

Out 3xFatal Push, 1xJwari Disruption  ^Flip, 3xTeferi, Hero of Dominaria

In 1xDovin's Veto, 1xVoid Rend, 2xStarnheim Unleashed, 1xSupreme Verdict, 1xThe End, 1xLyra Dawnbringer

Shark Typhoon works really with The End to hit a Vein Ripper and pay the ward cost. cycle on 3, end on 4. My sideboard swaps maximize ways to stop Sorin from hitting board, ways to non-target remove Ripper or get around ward, and gives you more top end power to close out the game, since the Rakdos matchup actually favors them the longer the game goes. Teferi is pretty low impact overall in the rakdos matchup, especially since it cant cleanly deal with a ripper by itself.

Swing4Lethal on Esper Control 3.0

4 months ago

I am very excited to hear you have been playing my list and enjoying it! I still believe the deck is very powerful and consistently better than straight Azorius Control.

I'll address Oath of Kaya first - It is way too slow. You can't afford to be tapping out for a single target sorcery speed removal effect. Especially not with Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord + Vein Ripper dominating like it is. You need to have 2-3 mana available for counter spells the turn they can drop Sorin. Temporary Lockdown is good enough in the 3 mana removal slot and clears most of the things you care about early.

Second, Get Lost is a great catch all option that bridges the small gaps in utility amongst Fatal Push, Vanishing Verse, and Void Rend. The map tokens the opponent gets are mostly irrelevant with only the Amalia Combo decks caring about them. Theoretically you should be able to control the board enough that they never get to use them. With that said, Vein Ripper presents a threat with a protection ability this deck has not had to deal with before, so you could get away with a second copy of Void Rend over Get Lost you just lose an effect that can hit land creatures.

Third, I agree whether you like the card or not, Reckoner Bankbuster is a great card. It gives the deck extra reach that it desperately needs. Deduce is fine, if you absolutely do not want to play Bankbuster but you lose the imminent body and damage threat that Bankbuster gives. The token would give you revolt, but you'd need to run 4 copies for that to be consistent and casting a 3 mana Fatal Push feels not great. Mazemind Tome is far too little impact to make it in the list. Your life gain is handled by The Wandering Emperor and Shambling Vent. Search for Azcanta  ^Flip is too slow and is really bad in Pioneer due to all of the graveyard exile effects being used.

Fourth, If you personally prefer to run 1 basic and 1 Otawara, Soaring City that's fine too. It's really just personal preference and relevant to your area's meta. I find that Dovin's Veto and Void Rend are good enough in the control match up that Otawara is not necessary. The biggest drawback is that Otawara always costs 4 mana game 1 and has a small chance to cost less in games 2/3. The very first iteration of the deck had both Otawara and Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire but I found I was being wastelanded by Field of Ruin too often and utilizing the channel abilities so rarely that I just cut them in favor of basics.

Finally, yes The End made it into the deck. It is the best possible removal option against so many creatures that decks rely on to win. Greasefang, Okiba Boss, Arclight Phoenix, Mayhem Devil, Vein Ripper (if you can pay the ward), and Amalia Benavides Aguirre are all game winning targets for it. Honestly I have even been considering cutting the Rest in Peace for a second copy of the end. I also swapped Make Disappear out for No More Lies. It is just a far better card in every way.

9-lives on Mystimechanics

5 months ago

Femboy_baloth Ohh crap haha. I didn't realize Dovin's Veto was for a noncreature spell! I read it as 'creature spell'. Sorry. But yeah I put it in the sideboard.

9-lives on Mystimechanics

5 months ago

Ah. Thanks, Femboy_baloth. I would run Dovin's Veto but I don't think i'll run into other players using counterspells. I'll keep it in the sideboard, I guess?

Femboy_baloth on Mystimechanics

5 months ago

I love this idea, always love to see control. You might want to use Dovin's Veto rather than Counterspell.