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Legendary Snow Land
Dark Depths enters the battlefield with ten ice counters on it.
: Remove an ice counter from Dark Depths.
When Dark Depths has no ice counters on it, sacrifice it. If you do, create Marit Lage, a legendary 20/20 black Avatar creature token with flying and indestructible.
Dark Depths Discussion
3 days ago
It's an interesting LD/tax take on Lord Windgrace .
I think there might be a little too much saturation of colourless in the mana base. One way to solve this would be to add Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth as this would fix for black mana. This also combos well with Cabal Coffers if you want large amounts of mana in the mid-to-late game after ramping out. The main reason to bring this up is that it can hurt your opening hands when you need to ramp/tutor to set up ramp.
As you are only running 18 creatures, Gaea's Cradle may not be the best fit as you've only got access to maybe three token generators in Titania, Protector of Argoth , Omnath, Locus of Rage and Field of the Dead , all of which are very slow ways to start churning out creatures and for which you have limited tutors. Avenger of Zendikar may be a better fit if you're wanting to keep this card in as it has the potential to generate a lot of tokens on ETB to buff up those numbers to get the most out of Gaea's Cradle
Hour of Promise is a great card to tutor out most of the two-land synergies like Dark Depths + Thespian's Stage , Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Cabal Coffers or Glacial Chasm + Throne of the High City . I highly recommend it as an effective land tutor.
Also considering the number of mountains you are running in the deck, it may be good to review whether Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle is a good fit as you are completely reliant on Prismatic Omen + Splendid Reclamation or Scapeshift to make this work, which can be rather painful to assemble when you're having to spend premium tutors to find it.
I would suggest dropping Forge of Heroes for another utility land or basic as Lord WINgrace isn't really going to benefit from 1 extra starting loyalty unless you're only planning on downticking for two turns. Further I can't think of a lot of use for Rishadan Port outside of a 1v1 game (as the effects you have that don't allow lands to untap have the stipulation 'tap for mana'), and even then the best way to deal with this would be something like Wasteland or Strip Mine to just straight up get rid of whatever land is causing you problems. The last land that looks odd is Dryad Arbor . I haven't really found much of a use for Dryad Arbor outside of really fringe circumstances where you're looking to block massive damage from a creature without trample or maybe throw an extra creature at a sacrifice effect to protect an important one. With Kessig Wolf Run you could end of turn fetch to deal with summoning sickness and just sink tonnes of mana into making it a big trampler during your turn but I feel that this strategy leaves you very vulnerable in the process (especially since anything with first strike or a single damage will just remove it). The inability to tap for mana on the turn it enters, along with it being rather vulnerable as a creature make it just a bit lacklustre compared to the multitude of other utility lands that are out there.
I like the Inkmoth Nexus + Karn's Bastion before setting up a Glacial Chasm and just slowly proliferating the opponent or just throw a Kessig Wolf Run on there for lethal infect, but I haven't really seen this strategy in action a whole lot.
Finally, you might also want to check your red mana ratios for Tectonic Reformation and I'm unsure whether you'll be able to cycle more than 1 or 2 cards a turn, could be wrong but a from a glance it looks a little thin. Again this leans a bit too heavy on Prismatic Omen to be reliable.
6 days ago
Hey man! I found you on youtube. I've been searching for fellow Koko players. it's crazy how few of us there are!
I recently built my Kokusho deck and it's become my absolute favorite deck to pilot. I love your deck and I'm totally stealing some of the cards you run. I'm gonna throw my deck at you too and see if you like any of the ideas I have, one fellow Kokusho player to another. These are just ideas or suggestions, take 'em or leave 'em obviously.
Soldevi Adnate - Wait a turn sac outlet. Soldevi can only be used once per turn but it gives you 6 mana!
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed - An extra reanimat in between every reanimate you're able to complete without him. clutch!
Chainer, Dementia Master - Arguable should be the commander, but I prefer him in the 99 myself. But yeah if I could only run one creature in the 99 I think this would be it.
K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth - So much value, especially if you have a Jet Medallion in play. It feels like you're casting everything for free. K'rrik + Chainer + Koko (in GY or on the battlefield) + any sac outlet = combo for the win.
Villis, Broker of Blood - For us he basically says "x: draw x cards, then draw x cards again" that is mana efficient card draw.
Personally I only run 8 creatures in the 99. These 5 absolutely make the cut. (Gary, Disciple, and Crypt Ghast are my other picks which you are already running. Gonti I sometimes throw in just for fun, he doesn't make the deck more powerful but he's fun to play in casual pods. I like stealing cards from people.)
We actually don't have any sorceries in common. Although I have been considering adding Exsanguinate. Anyway, here are some I suggest:
Reanimate - the Original Gangsta of reanimation. The namesake thereof. Very mana efficient. It hurts us a tiny bit in the life lost department. But you came to the right place if you want some life to spend.
Bubbling Muck - very good min-late game ramp spell.
Damnation - An efficient board wipe. It's basically Wrath of God in black.
Toxic Deluge - Also very efficient for us who love to spend life. It can get around indestructible too. I actually feel like I should be running MORE board wipes. Afterall, I have a creature that wants to die and I have very few other creatures. But these two were the best I could find. I also might add Mutilate .
Demonic Tutor - a Classic.
Diabolic Intent - Sac outlet plus a tutor.
Praetor's Grasp - i love stealing from opponents. You can usually find someone at the table that you think will have an Ashnod's Alter. But you can always find something good.
Scheming Symmetry - I like being political and making deals, this is a good way to do that.
Exhume - I can usually find a time to use it when it won't benefit opponents too much. Either way, it's 2 mana to reanimate Koko.
Footsteps of the Goryo
- 3 mana to reanimate. Plus it sacs at end of turn, although i often have sac'd and reanimated it again by that time.
You have a lot of Graveyard to hand effects, which are great, but I much prefer Graveyard to Battlefield.
Instants. I don't have Thrilling Encore but it is my style of play, so i just might add that one. I don't have Tragic Slip either but I can't say it's a bad card. Definitely a good removal spell.
I do have the other three that you have and they are amazing.
a few more I like:
Abnormal Endurance - 2 mana to pre-reanimate or "Preanimate" if you will.
Corpse Dance - 3 mana to reanimate. Plus Koko can come in and swing for 5 in the air so that's a plus. I almost never attack with him otherwise. Buyback on this makes it an absolute must.
Goryo's Vengeance - 1 mana to reanimate, again with haste! you want a sac outlet though else it exile at end of turn. (sends Koko back to command zone, but still, you're rather he die again of course. This one can actually be spliced onto the other Goryo which is fun and seldom happens. lol plus you can't target Koko with both of them if you do it that way, but hey, maybe you get Gary AND Koko.
Grim Return - 3 mana to bring back anything from any graveyard. Usually Koko, but maybe you want something else from someone else's bin. this can get it done. Instant speed is nice.
Sacrifice - one time sac outlet but also net 5 mana ritual! not bad at all.
Shallow Grave - This one, like Corpse Dance, picks only the top card so be careful the order you put things into graveyard. 2 mana to reanimate. yes please.
Undying Evil - very similar to Supernatural Stamina although I actually prefer this one because it leaves him up to block in case you need that.
Vampiric Tutor - not budget at all obviously. But if you have one, this is a great place for it.
Wake the Dead - Kind of niche, but you can usually sac at instant speed so waiting for opponents turn isn't so bad normally. 3 mana to reanimate Koko and sac him again. already quite good. but you could pay 1 more and bring back Gary too if he's in there. 1 more brings back . . .Runescarred Demon or whatever. it only gets better and better in the late game with more mana available and more cards in the graveyard.
Blade of Selves - So this is my number 1 recommendation. It's my favorite card in all of MTG and it's the reason I even wanted to make this deck. I use BoS in my green decks a lot, and I have never made a black deck before but I kept thinking how awesome this would be on Kokusho so... here we are. As long as you have 3 opponents this card says "at the beginning of your combat step gain 30 life and each opponent loses 10 life." Plus you're swinging for 5 in the air so you can point that at the person with the highest life total and hopefully keep all opponents closer together so you don't get to that awkward late game where Koko dies and only gains you 5 or 10 life. Token copies can be abused as well. For instance, You swing Koko equipped with Blade, 2 tokens ETB, you kill one and then let's say you keep the other one and send the real koko to the graveyard because you have an instant speed reanimate effect but no sac outlet. You reanimate him and bam, legend rule triggers again and you kill him again or kill the token this time. You will have to spend 4 more mana to re-equip Blade but it can be worth it at times. Speaking of token copies of koko...
Minion Reflector - Basically a colorless Bramble Sovereign, another card that I love love love in my green decks. Minion reflector makes a copy, kills the real guy, the copy can attack, then maybe you reanimate Koko and let the copy die this time.
- This can be another Cabal Coffers, or a copy of an opponent's Zendikar Resurgent... it's insanely versatile.
you could stack triggers, making it become a copy of Kokusho and then before that resolves you make it a copy of Soldevi Adnate who you just cast. Soldevi has summoning sickness but Mirage Mirror doesn't so you become a copy of Soldevi, then tap to sac Kokusho and add 6 mana, then the first activation resolves and Mirage Mirror becomes Kokusho who isn't even around anymore. It's tapped, but that doesn't matter much, you can sac it for value, or maybe reanimate Kokusho who comes back into what otherwise would have been no sac outlet but now the legend rule triggers and you get another death trigger. End of turn Mirage Mirror is just a tapped Mirage Mirror again.
Mirror of the Forebears - even cheaper version of Mirage Mirror but not nearly as versatile. I always name "Spirit" because Koko is my only dragon but Crypt Ghast is a Spirit so there's a chance I'll want MotF to be a Crypt Ghast later on. Usually though it just becomes a Kokusho until end of turn to give me free repeatable "sacrifice" (not really but essentially the same thing). speaking of dragons...
Dragon's Hoard - This is fun, although I might take it out because there are more powerful things that could be added. But yeah, it's a 3 mana mana rock. Ramp is kind of important early game when you have a 6 mana commander and your whole deck revolves around him. But then you start adding Gold Counters and now it's an extra card you get to draw pretty much every turn.
Phyrexian Altar - Yeah I'd choose Ashnod's over this but it's a close second. well worth the slot IMO.
Blasting Station - Another great sac outlet. Repeatable. and you can ping down opponents' life totals or ping their small utility creatures.
Bolas's Citadel - This is how you get card advantage in mono black. And with koko we have plenty of life to spend! Finishes the game a little faster too, as soon as opponents are under 10 life you might be able to sac everything and tka 'em to 0.
Cauldron of Souls - Not as good as Mikaeus because he might reanimate Koko 2 or 3 times in a turn, but Cauldron is still awesome and can reanimate everybody you've got. Plus, being an artifact, it's a little more resilient than Mike.
Cursed Totem - I might take this out since stax aren't my style. But it is very powerful. Chainer, Vilis, and Soldevi are the only creatures in my entire deck that this hurts.
Jet Medallion - I'm often casting 3 or 4 spells in a turn so this can really put in the work.
Lifeline - interesting effect. it's symmetrical so be careful. but trust me, you'll get more use form it than they will. But yeah, I'd rather play group hug effects that benefit me more than they rather than stax effects that hurt they more than me. Anyway, this brings back anything that dies at the end of the turn, as long as there is another creature on the battlefield. When i'm not trying to win very hard and I just want a fun interesting game this will often be the target of my tutors. If I wanna win I grab Chainer and K'rrick :)
Strionic Resonator - Guess what's better than getting one death trigger from a dying Spirit Dragon? . . .
Well of Lost Dreams - Draw as many cards as you want for 1 mana each. not a bad deal at all.
Wishclaw Talisman - Another tutor, but one that can make friends. I usually pick the person I want to befriend and I say ""I'ma use the first wish, I'll give you the second wish if you give me the third. Deal?" If they won't make the deal I pick another opponent. Someone is likely willing to do it, and you end up with basically 2 Demonic Tutors.
You have amazing enchantments. I don't yet own Wound Reflection or Exquisite Blood but when I get them they will definitely go in this deck. Black Market is AMAZING, Sanguine Bond is a must. The others I don't run but they are great cards. A few I recommend:
Necropotence - After Vilis this is the best card draw spell in my deck. My playgroup always targets it because it can get crazy ESPECIALLY if you have Thought Vessel or Reliquary Tower in play. I've considered running Shimmer Myr and Vedalken Orrery so I can just draw my whole deck minus 1 or 2 cards, and then chain some rituals into Shimmer Myr into Vedalken Orrery into either a win or a Spellbook to keep my hand. But yeah, I don't run those right now. Just reliquary Tower and Thought Vessel. But even without those, I usually pay enough life to draw up to 10 and then I have to exile 3 cards. But it's so much card draw and card selection!
Attrition - Very nice creature removal
Gate to Phyrexia - Very nice artifact removal, although it has been annoying that it can only happen at upkeep. Still worth though!
Tainted AEther - Super mean stax piece. Great for the Kokusho player, not great for anyone else.
Lethal Vapors - This one is even meaner somehow. And I love that it has it's own demise onit. like "hey, you're welcome to end this meanness any time you want man..." My friends have learned to just kill it as soon as it comes out, it's just a matter of who will be the one to lose a turn for the team. pretty funny stuff.
Dawn of the Dead - Kinda like Lifeline but even better IMO. It reanimates at upkeep and gives haste. It's interesting that this and Cauldron of Souls and Chainer and Mikaeus and Lifeline and Corpse Dance with buyback all cost 5 mana. Apparently that's the sweetspot for repeatable reanimates.
Unholy Indenture - A preanimate effect that can steal opponents' creatures if you want to use it for that.
Kaya's Ghostform - Another preanimate for only 1 mana. Also beings it back from exile! I noticed you have a couple planeswalkers as well, this can bring them back too, with renewed loyalty of course, and ready to use a second tie if you killed them on your turn. It's just 1 mana! insane!
Necromancy , Dance of the Dead , and Animate Dead are three more reanimate spells. They have a lot of text but basically they bring koko from GY to battlefield. All three can steal from opponents' graveyards if you so choose. Necromancy can be played as an instant.
I'm currently re-thinking my lands package. I have Field of the Dead so I've kind of gone pretty heavily into running all differently named lands. I have a few Swamps, a few Snow-Covered Swamps, and then a bunch of great stuff and a bunch of janky terrible stuff lol. But I'm thinking i might clean it up a bit and go with more basics to help out Cabal Coffers more.
I'm super jealous of your Cavern of Souls. I would love to get one of those someday. And I too run Glacial Chasm. It can be a really important card in some games. A funny janky combo that I've never done but hope to one day is to have Glacial Chasm in play and Lethal Vapors and then I activate Lethal Vapor's skipping my next turn, but before it resolves and kills Lethal Vapors I activate it again, 1 billion times. Then it dies and I skip all my turns from now on, and if opponents don't have a way to destroy Glacial Chasm, or to drain me of life, then they eventually mill themselves out and lose. Obviously this is very situational, most of the time I feel like they'd be able to find a way to win, but it would be funny nonetheless.
Anyway, good card. Also Nephalia Academy. I didn't even know about that card but I'ma get one and start playtesting it. very interesting effect!
Geier Reach Sanitarium - Sometimes you really want a certain card in your graveyard, this can help you put it there.
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - A classic. Don't forget it might help opponents too though.
Cabal Coffers - Pair with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth for lots of manas.
Gemstone Caverns - Possible turn ramp with little downside.
Ancient Tomb - better in the early game than Temple of the False God. The life loss can add up though, even in a Kokusho deck. In casual meta with longer games it isn't quite as good as it is in cEDH.
Bojuka Bog - Your enemies might be as keen to play from their graveyard as you are. Hit them before they hit you.
Boseiju, Who Shelters All - depending on your meta it might be really important to have uncounterable sometimes. Especially when you tap out to cast a huge Exsanguinate. Nothing worse than having that Mana Drain'd
Buried Ruin - I have several Artifacts I love in this deck, but most of all my baby, Blade of Selves.
Field of the Dead - a powerhouse late game.
High Market - a sac outlet on a land. Run this card! and speaking of sac on a land...
Phyrexian Tower - this is super clutch. It's only once per turn but it's really really good to have.
Diamond Valley - ok I admit I don't own this so it's not in my deck. but if i had a spare 1000 bucks.... this is a great card. It doesn't tap for mana unless you have Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth in play though.
Miren, the Moaning Well - a poor man's Diamond Valley. It does tap for mana though so it's got that over DiamondV. but it will cost 3 to tap it and sak Koko.
Mirrorpool - This taps for colorless, and comes into play tapped. so that suck. but... it can become a Kokusho token to that's pretty cool.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx - An auto-include in any mono-color deck.
Reliquary Tower - Often overplayed in EDH but in a deck with Vilis or Necropotence it is definitely worth a slot.
Shizo, Death's Storehouse - Not worth it to buy this one for Koko. You pretty much never use it to give him Fear. But it is a differently named card for my Field of the Dead and there's not much downside so... I have it in there for now.
Thawing Glaciers - I think i might take this one out. I don't have many early game ramp spells so I thought this might be good but omg it's so slow! it was aptly named.
Witch's Cottage - This one is up your alley since you like returning from GY to top of library.
Volrath's Stronghold - is another such card with a very similar effect you might like.
I have Vesuva which usually copies Cabal Coffers. and I have Thespian's Stage and Dark Depths for my boi Marit Lage. They make for fun things to tutor from your two wishes on Wishclaw Talisman. There are stronger things that could be done but if you feel like just being silly and smashing face with a 20/20 indestructible flier then there's always that option.
Urborg is a silly land to run, i mean there's no downside other than it isn't a swamp. But there's really no upside either except for people saying "what the hell is that?" which can be fun. Most people have never heard of it and have been calling Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth by this name without realize it belongs to another.
Well if you made it to the end of my novel, congratulations. Let me know what you think of these cards and stay in touch so we can bounce Kokusho ideas off of each other.
1 week ago
The plan is usually cast Golos as quickly as possible. Then it's blink or clone him as much as possible to get gates on the battlefield. I don't think there's much I'd change about my deck, but it's also tuned for my play group. The last game I played with it, two gates got exiled, so I had to switch strategies and shifted to Dark Depths and Thespian's Stage to get a Marit Lage out. Field of the Dead also put in a ton of work. So there's backups to the gate strategy, but it can happen very quickly. Something like Rite of Replication gets you halfway there by itself. Circuitous Route into a Dualcaster Mage isn’t bad either.
1 week ago
I'd say to dump a swamp for the Alchemist's Refuge as you have plenty of swamp duals and Urborg changes everything into them. (or Dark Depths depending on how often it actually helps you in your meta)
1 month ago
Any thoughts on Dark Depths ? I know it doesn't do much in the ways of card draw or the enchantress theme, but i figure you're already running Solemnity , Dark Depths might be worth. and also with the addition of a Crop Rotation , you can tutor for either Dark Depths or Serra's Sanctum if you're trying to Approach of the Second Sun or need a specific color to get your game going. Idk just a thought. Love the deck!
1 month ago
1 month ago
Play fewer cards that do nothing. Beacon of Immortality , Pyroblast , Red Elemental Blast , Rebuff the Wicked , Bar the Door , Approach of the Second Sun , and Emerge Unscathed don't do much to buff your Commander and none of them draw cards. Cards like Expedite and Brute Force are both fine because they draw cards and buff your commander repeatably. But cards that drag the game out aren't what Boros Aggro wants
The reason the cards that do almost nothing and draw cards are good is because they draw cards. In this deck, that should be more pump spells. You draw a Brute Force , cast it, get it back, then draw Fists of the Anvil , cast it, get it back and cards like Expedite let you draw even more cards to start looping. The bottleneck of this deck is the card draw. Sure, you can dump your hand, but that's 7 cards at most. What if it were 9, 10, or more?
~ Cards I think don't do enough ~
Helm of the Host - Very slow on its own and 5 mana to equip; Payoff is more creatures that you don't need because your commander is a 3/4 flyer and copying any other creature is not as good as your commander. However, copying your commander is bad because all of your instants and sorceries are single target
Approach of the Second Sun - You're never casting this twice. If you even cast this once you've probably already lost. In this deck, it's a 7 mana Angel's Mercy do NOT play Angel's Mercy, it doesn't do anything you will lose
Aegis of the Heavens - Only gives +1 to power. Toughness does not matter when you have a) an aggressive deck and b) a flyer
Isochron Scepter - Everything goes back to your hand anyway, why imprint anything?
Caged Sun - a 6 mana artifact that lets you cast spells you could already cast. It's a "win-more" card, I don't see a need
Rings of Brighthearth + Basalt Monolith - Only in for the infinite mana combo, which does nothing. Instants are Sorceries have colored costs (and are mostly a majority colored in fact) that still need to be paid, so there is no loop or anything. If anything, it's worse because you need to put 2 mana into the thing (which in this deck, is usually your colored lands)
~ Strictly Better ~
1 month ago
TypicalTimmy I guess a stack would be defined as 2 or more. (A single creature token is just "a creature token"). The trade off for having a lesser number of tokens is this - once you run out of your stack of tokens, the ability would no longer function, since your stack is depleted. As tokens leave the battlefield they cease to exist, so they don't go back into your stack of remaining tokens.
Also the tokens have to be an official token created by MTG at some point. You'll want to have Marit Lage, Godsire, etc. tokens and it's all legit! So yes, you could have 100 or however-many-tokens MTG has ever created.
Of course the last ability functions with all tokens, so bring your Doubling Season s and kin for exponential fun! And the cards that actually create those tokens, like Godsire and Dark Depths work too!
Dark Depths occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.45%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%