Legendary Snow Land
Dark Depths enters the battlefield with ten ice counters on it.
: Remove an ice counter from Dark Depths.
When Dark Depths has no ice counters on it, sacrifice it. If you do, create Marit Lage, a legendary 20/20 black Avatar creature token with flying and indestructible.
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Dark Depths Discussion
3 days ago
Anger Scute Swarm Titana, Protector of Argoth Fabled Passage Thespian's Stage Field of the Dead Dark Depths Ancient Greenwarden Constant Mists Nissa of Shadowed Boughs Valakut Exploration Bala Ged Recovery Flip Valakut Awakening Flip Radha, Heart of Keld Tireless Tracker Tireless Provisioner Azusa, Lost but Seeking
1 month ago
1 month ago
Well, Selesnya Sanctuary might bounce a land, but it taps for 2, so next turn you not only have less lands out, you have the same mana (and have some fixing), and you definitely have another land in hand if you need to play a big drop later. If you use Karoo lands, you lose the land, but you aren't down any mana. As for Ohran, I was thinking a singleton as a finisher, as it can both draw lots of cards and clear out blockers, both things you probably want. I'm trying to think of some good card draw options that fit in here, white has nothing I can think of that fits, and green tends to need a big creature out, or lots of creatures.
Rebuff vs Mana Tithe is a decent question, but I think the two serve different purposes. Mana Tithe mostly hits efficient plays, and removal plays tend to be cheap and leave mana to pay it. Mana Tithe becomes dead quickly most games though, while Rebuff can stay relevant.
I can explain some of what Knight of the Reliquary can do for you. It excels in a deck that runs lands that are high value, up to Gaea's Cradle type stuff, but there are many great lands out there that can take over the game that aren't $1k. It can easily fix you with a The World Tree , and all the while it keeps growing. You might also want some landfall payoffs like Felidar Retreat or Retreat to Kazandu , there are tons out there. If you fetch out a Sanctuary, note it will still bounce a land, and thus Reliquary can set up Knight of the White Orchid to fetch a land for you and actually get you ahead on mana, and that fetched Plains can then be sacrificed for a better land later. If you can bounce, flicker or otherwise repeat the Knight, you might actually end up pretty far ahead, as long as you expect your opponents to hit their land drops. You can also find lands that make creatures with Reliquary, or go big with Dark Depths as a finisher, it's an extremely versatile card, and has big synergies with a ton of stuff like Crucible of Worlds to generate big mana enabling quick wins. Even without leaning too hard into it's traditional uses, just using it as a Knight it seems like a good card, and I feel like you need more creatures in here anyways.
If you keep Knight of the White Orchid I would remove the ramp spells for Reliquaries, I think you have enough lands to hit 3 mana safely.
Hope some of this was helpful!
1 month ago
forneyt My budget for this deck is higher then I would usually spend because I want it to be able to play in cEDH games (it doesnt have to be a win all the time deck but good enough to sit at the table). However cards over $80-100 each are probably a get if I can thing but a hard sell to spend $ to the wife. As my play group goes, I dont have one. Covid destroyed it. We are just now starting to open back up here in Vegas so I have no idea what I will be walking into at my LGS.
I would love Mana Crypt but I just don't have one and I only have Mana Vault in there for a early commander ramp. The Charcoal Diamond bugs me because of the comes into play tapped and that seems to slow for cEDH.
Possessed Portal is a win con if it resolves. By the time I get that out they should have almost no resources in had if not already hellbent. With my commander out as well they cant even top deck and everything they sac goes to me. The 8 cmc can be rampped as well I can even shave it down to 6 and protect it with Dream Devourer . Vilis, Broker of Blood I just do not personally like. The cmc means I would need to animate him out and I rather do that on more important targets. The card draw I could get from running Necropotence at a much cheaper cmc (still up in the air about that one though). He seems like a large amount of resources to just get returned to hand or countered just like Sheoldred, Whispering One and I rreally like her.
I do like Waste Not probably find a place for it.
So you might have something there. I didnt want to run Chromatic Lantern because of the cmc. Everflowing Chalice I like because it starts at 2 and at any point of the game if I draw it I could put more into it if i had the mana to spare. The Blood Moon situation is problematic so I might just do that, maybe in place of Mana Vault if i decide to drop it all together.
Yes the maybe board is stuff I am considering as well as stuff I have pulled out. I like Gary and still may run him after I get my first 100 settled and tested I will move it around.
Geth's Grimoire may be a possibility. However I dont like the idea of giving the other players more answers. I want the hellbent and top decking much sooner then later.
Living Death is a card I may cut, I am not sure yet. I like the idea of all their boards getting sacked and becoming my creatures and I also get my graveyard back. Death Cloud is a win con. Mindslicer is the same kind of thing (with a sac outlet) I get all their permanents. Without a sac outlet I can beat away or hold as blocks. That is why I like this commander so much, "your stuff is my stuff.. Thanks!"
Dark Depths only works with Thespian's Stage . Vesuva enters as a copy so would have the counters on him. Thespian is already in play when copied so no counters. Either way this seems too meme for me :-)
I did notice a big flaw that you pointed out .. I have no sac outlet so Miren, the Moaning Well High Market Phyrexian Tower any of those might be a good add. I like Deserted Temple but it is close to that to expensive area because I dont have one.
Thank you for taking the time to give some help and advice, I appreciate it.
1 month ago
I'm not sure what your playgroup consists of, or what your budget is, so I'll just rattle off some cards and (if needed) their budget alternatives, as well as what I would suggest replacing.
Chromatic Lantern in place of Everflowing Chalice : Lantern fixes your lands that tap for colorless (or cabal coffers before you get it going), and keeps you from getting wrecked by Blood Moon by giving your "Mountains" the ability to tap for black.
I already see some other great cards in your maybeboard: Dark Confidant , Gray Merchant of Asphodel , Thoughtseize , and Necropotence among them. Confidant is "draw" without the "draw", which can be an important distinction for certain cards (cough cough Chains of Mephistopheles cough cough Nekusar, the Mindrazer cough cough). Gary is an alternate wincon and also replenishes your health after you drain yourself with your own cards. Thoughtseize basically is "I want this card in your hand" with your commander, and Necropotence is just a broken card that gives you more cards than you can cast.
I feel like your deck may be missing some draw power, so I would suggest Geth's Grimoire , the previously mentioned Vilis, and Howling Mine / Mikokoro, Center of the Sea . With all the discard potential, these last two shouldn't be a problem if your opponents get a couple cards!
For any combo of the above suggestions, I would consider cutting Living Death , Death Cloud , Tangle Wire , and Mindslicer . My reasoning for these four specifically is that they are too mana costly and also negatively affect your boardstate in a way that doesn't put you ahead.
Lastly, I have some land suggestions that I am unsure what to cut for because you already have a decent selection. High Market is a great land, along with its alternate, Miren, the Moaning Well . Deserted Temple can be an extra Cabal Coffers or Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx . If you like to take risks, you could include Dark Depths for the classic Vesuva / Thespian's Stage combo!
2 months ago
2 months ago
Like I said, I haven't built a Muldrotha deck yet. So, for instance, if I were to say yes, that Dark Depths combo would be sick in there (which I would), you should ask for a second opinion. The rest of my comments should be treated the same.
One thing I would add is that I don't feel like you have enough ways to protect Muldrotha. I'd figure out a way to get Swiftfoot Boots into the deck, and also consider Guardian Augmenter , among other things. Somebody else could give you a better list of that, I'm sure.
2 months ago
Not a creature but Dark Depths is pretty good.