Draw two cards, then discard two cards.
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Faithless Looting occurrence in decks from the last year
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Faithless Looting Discussion
2 days ago
Thanks for all the suggestions Apollo, no offense taken at all, I'm glad to get feedback.
Truthfully this deck had all but one of your suggested cards in it at one point or another during the crafting phase, and they're all very effective. The thing I was going for though with this deck was a more early-game focused blitz style of deck as opposed to a more balanced and long-haul strategy. Mostly focusing on getting Colossus Hammer onto the cheaper goblins ASAP to try to finish by turn 3/4.
I felt that the Puresteel Paladin wasn't really pulling it's weight until around turn 4 or 5 when the metalcraft really comes online, with the more simple and straightforward approach only needing 1-2 artifacts in play to inflict lethal in the early stages. Thus I felt like he was slowing things down, despite being very powerful. Same story for Sram, Senior Edificer.
The aim here is to go full agro early and less to play into a more safe Boros playstyle. Honestly this deck would be mono-red if it didn't rely so much on Steelshaper's Gift for tutoring the Colossus Hammer early. I get that the deck maybe isn't optimized, and your version would be more consistent, but I've always been a Johnny at heart.
Infiltration Lens may be worth consideration though, since you're definitely right about card-draw being a massive plus in leu of the bigger mana-base that I have currently. So that may help to even speed the deck up more than the Bonesplitters do. The aim with them was to hopefully create a health enough assault team while I wait for the right cards to initiate the desired Hammer combo, but drawing cards would likely expedite this, so I wouldn't have to worry about just dealing some damage in the meantime while I wait for something better.
The problem I had with Kor Duelist was that he frequently lacked trample and could easily be blocked by fodder early, while the Cathar's Shield didn't play well into the full-offensive aesthetic (but maybe I should focus less on what doesn't feel right and more on what works). Something else I had in the vein of 0-drop equipments was Bone Saw, but also felt it lacked punch or any utility without the metalcraft of card draw from Puresteel Paladin and Sram, Senior Edificer.
I'll definitely play around with re-tuning the mana-base and adding in the Infiltration Lenses though, since that would help with speeding things up, as I mentioned.
Another thought I had was something like Faithless Looting, Crash Through or Renegade Tactics in order to get a little bit of card-draw going, while also neutralising blockers. I'll look more into those perhaps.
Adding in 4X Ancient Den and 4X Great Furnace would also make it more likely to trigger Puresteel Paladin's metalcraft as an easy way to equip Colossus Hammer, and opens the deck up to something like Galvanic Blast or Dispatch for some early utility spells that would also have their metalcraft triggered. That was what I was considering for the more-well-rounded and more white-oriented version of the deck, though as I said before; what I'm really trying to do is maximize efficiency and speed rather than play the long-game.
I appreciate the help, really, and I'll look into how I can make the deck better with your suggestions. Thank you.
1 week ago
Red carries White in RW EDH decks with cards like Dockside Extortionist, Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast, Deflecting Swat, Gamble, Faithless Looting, Captain Lannery Storm, 6 of the 10 playable rituals, Wheel of Fortune, Wheel of Misfortune, Reforge the Soul . . . Red, in more tuned EDH, shifts from the aggro role it has in other formats to a color that wants to dump its hand to generate advantage and then cast a wheel effect to go back to 7.
If you get into cEDH, red is the color that drops Mana Crypt into Simian Spirit Guide and Rite of Flame to cast Fellwar Stone and then Wheel of Misfortune, meaning they ended net -1 cards to get a land, a crypt and a rock out. Starting t2 with 5 mana and a full hand is pretty good.
So the cards red/white gets from white are the generic support cards and a couple high-power tutors that Red misses. Cause who wants to play Deafening Silence when your whole strategy is 'cast your hand'? RW isn't bad in EDH, but it is pretty much just R+.
RinceRaven on Kaalia
2 weeks ago
Okay so, this comment is kinda unreadable, and I'mma clean this up a bit, order cards together, give my personal thoughts and then repost it, but here's the dump version also so I can work off it myself
Dragon Tempest, Lightning Greaves, Caged Sun, Thran Dynamo, Aura of Silence, Austere Command, Archangel of Thune, Aurelia, the Warleader, Doom Whisperer, Rakdos, Lord of Riots, Sword of the Animist, Dragon's Hoard, Price of Fame, Ob Nixilis, Unshackled, Angel of Serenity, Kaalia of the Vast, Magus of the Moat, Herald of War, Primevals' Glorious Rebirth, Hazoret's Monument, Firemind Vessel, Worn Powerstone, Thundermaw Hellkite, Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury, Lathliss, the Dragon Queen, Karmic Guide, Sower of Discord, Angel of Condemnation, Blade of Selves, Gilded Lotus, Bolas's Citadel, Tainted Remedy, True Conviction, Deafening Silence, Grasp of Fate, Everflowing Chalice, Grafdigger's Cage
3 weeks ago
Decks coming together, did a play test, had an opening Gamble and Dualcaster Mage but not Twinflame to tutor! I think without a Twinflame and Riptide Laboratory which means Dockside Extortionist I wouldn’t run Dualcaster Mage, Fork would likely give you more utility.
I see you’ve decided to go with Intuition, I finally got one!! Last day of Boxing Day sale and came in stock $137 (Canadian $’s = $100 USD), and Enter the Infinite / Mizzix's Mastery / Past in Flames. What I don’t see if the Faithless Looting (if they give you Enter the Infinite) to Past in Flames and then Intuition for Faithless Looting to discard Enter the Infinite then Mizzix's Mastery. I guess you could Pull from Tomorrow for 0 if you had to with some mana ramp spells!
I got advice on discord about Thassa's Oracle the argument was that once you’ve drawn you deck it’s already a win, don’t need the fish at that point, it’s not like we are fish/consul or fish/pact, there is a blue enchantment (name escapes me) for 0 can exile your whole library that would be an argument, but that card awful prevents 1 damage or something. Anyways, the argument is, why not just Underworld Breach that way Frantic Search + Reiterate is same as Stroke of Genius. And breach is just good.
I can’t remember all the Ral, Storm Conduit interactions I would double check Commander Spellbook, my guess you have the good ones based on the list.
Not a fan of Jaya's Immolating Inferno Mizz doesn’t have the supporting creatures, could be dead in hand for long stretches and early game.
Looking good, some expensive cards in there though!
Just notified me you posted a message too, I’ll read through that in the morning.
3 weeks ago
I'm a big fan of your list and I think I will convert my Krenko deck to match your list for Muxus (when mine arrives lol).
It looks like you've put a lot of consideration into this deck! If budget wasn't a question, would you make any changes?
I have not had a chance to playtest your list yet so I may be wrong, but I was thinking of adding Faithless Looting for additional draw, as well as Goblin Engineer for your artifacts as it combos well with treasures from Dockside Extortionist.
I look forward to your feedback and the opportunity to try your list!
4 weeks ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. Good build on such a low a budget. Realistically to make much improvements you're going to have to be able to spend more than $30 for your deck.
My advice is to lower the mana curve by adding more low CMC Wizards and more low CMC instants and sorceries that draw cards. End the curve with two five drops Wizards: Azami, Lady of Scrolls, Shipwreck Dowser and one six drop Archetype of Imagination. I suggest playing double the amount or more of instants and sorceries than Wizards because technically you don't need other Wizards because Adeliz can pump herself. Still have a strong base of low CMC Wizards, just a smaller one.
Since Adeliz can pump herself and has flying she is really your best win condition doing 21 Commander damage to each opponent. The problem with Adeliz is she doesn't provide card advantage only pump therefore you need a lot of other cards that draw cards to fuel the pump.
Some Wizards can help for card advantage:
- Windrider Wizard: lets you draw each time you cast an instant or sorcery or even a Wizard and he has flying which makes him a threat to attack. If just about every card you cast draws you a card then that's a nice advantage to keep drawing instants/sorceries/Wizards.
- Burning Prophet: repeatable scry is powerful when you want to draw certain cards and not lands or other cards. She can filter away lands so that you draw instants/sorceries/Wizards.
Consider more low CMC Wizards? That way you can establish a Wizard army quicker and get faster benefits from Adeliz with other Wizards. More low CMC flying Wizards can benefit much more from the pump from Adeliz because they can more easily do combat damage to an opponent:
- Siren Stormtamer
- Wingcrafter: way to give a Wizard who doesn't have evasion flying such as Burning Prophet and soulbond can change creatures.
- Faerie Seer
- Kaza, Roil Chaser
- Lightning Stormkin
- Dreadhorde Arcanist
With more low CMC flying Wizards then cards such as Bident of Thassa and Reconnaissance Mission can draw a lot of cards since you draw a card for each creature who does combat damage to a player. This is a way to keep refilling your hand with instants/sorceries by attacking with Wizards even if you don't have instants/sorceries to cast. Flying Wizards are still going to do combat damage to a player and draw cards. Shared Animosity is repeatable pump for each attacking Wizard you control. This repeatable effect is in addition too any pump that Adeliz does.
Izzet has a wealth of good low CMC budget instants/sorceries that draw cards that are staples of Commander:
- Preordain, Serum Visions, Ponder
- Brainstorm, Faithless Looting
- Windfall, Frantic Search
- Impulse, Chart a Course, Thrill of Possibility
Some budget lands upgrades to consider:
- Command Tower: staple of Commander for two or more color decks.
- Unclaimed Territory
- Path of Ancestry: repeatable scry when you cast a Wizard.
- Shivan Reef
- Mystic Sanctuary: recur a instant or sorcery from your graveyard.
Good luck with your deck.
4 weeks ago
Upon discovering Bosh, Iron Golem, I was determined to make him good. I wanted to use his ability as fast as possible, and not have to wait until turn 9. After stumbling upon a red planeswalker, Daretti, Scrap Savant that could yank artifacts out of the graveyard by turn 5, the idea for this strategy began to practically brew itself. However, the planeswalker ability still felt slow, as I could only return one artifact at a time. Later, I decided on the newly found Scrap Mastery to do that job. In the turns leading up to turn 5, I would need to toss as many high CMC artifacts (including Bosh) into the graveyard as possible. Luckily, Red has many efficient cards to do just this: Faithless Looting, Thrill of Possibility, Lightning Axe etc. When it is time to pull the artifacts out of the graveyard, I should be instantly rewarded by enter battlefield effects of cards like Combustible Gearhulk, Meteor Golem, and Myr Battlesphere.
Turn six I can attack with any number of these and then sacrifice one or so to Bosh for the remaining damage.
My question today is threefold:
Should I splash another color to get more synergy off the discarding and more options for artifacts? If so, what cards would you add or substitute (while keeping the deck under $50)?
Have you seen decks like this before? If so, could you provide a link?
How would you feel if you played this deck against your friends? If you had to play against it?
1 month ago
Also, a card I've been wondering about and wouldn't mind some opinions on is Anger. I have one lying around and could add it to the deck, and it goes great with Faithless Looting-type cards. But I only have four of those in the deck, so it's not the most reliable way to have it in the graveyard. But granting haste is pretty great and the dragons can definitely use it, especially Lathliss's tokens. Any thoughts?
EDIT: Hmm, I also have Avaricious Dragon and Hazoret's Monument as sources of discard, so that might not be such a bad idea! I'm gonna try making room for it and will add Drownyard Temple as well. Should be interesting!