Niv-Mizzet Reborn
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Niv-Mizzet Reborn

Legendary Creature — Dragon Avatar

Flying

When Niv-Mizzet Reborn enters the battlefield, reveal the top ten cards of your library. For each color pair, choose a card that's exactly those colors from among them. Put the chosen cards into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.

LunchBox1211 on dragon tribal is glorious

2 months ago

Blink spells, I'm not sure if you need them. Your commander triggers on ETB, but only if cast. I guess you have the AFR dragons, but I would not recommend running something just for them.

I'm still not sure what kind of value you are getting from Niv-Mizzet Reborn. By my count (before making any cuts or changes) you have 8 cards that you could find with him, as Dragonlord Silumgar goes into your hand. Yes, it is 5 counters on Ramos, but I don't think it's worth it just for that.

Crosis, the Purger seems decent. If you want to run him, no one is going to think twice, but I personally don't really like discard effects. I'll leave it up to you. Dragonlord Dromoka. Yes. I hate counterspells, and a deck that wants to drop dragons is really prone to them. Darigaaz Reincarnated is a maybe. I do like the fact that he is hard to take out, but he's just a 7/7 body, in this deck.

Blue223201 on dragon tribal is glorious

3 months ago

ok, thanks. for the help some of the cards you mentioned in my deck like Blackblade Reforged. but one card like Backdraft Hellkite it helps me get some more instance if i need any. My pet card is Ramos, Dragon Engine.

so here is how my deck works i get Tiamat out right look for 5 dragon cards the cards i look for are Ramos, Dragon Engine, Niv-Mizzet Reborn, Terror of the Peaks, Dragonlord Silumgar, and Atarka, World Render. Then put Terror of the Peaks first then atarke, then ramos then niv-mizzet. then the dragon lord. then just obliterate my opponent because they have no chance if i get all of them out and survive when tiamat comes out so yea.

and really quick what is you opinion about blink cards if you think that might help, what kind of blink cards would you prefer? speaking of cards-sorry for the long message- what is your opinion about Crosis, the Purger, Dragonlord Dromoka, and Darigaaz Reincarnated?

and what are some more instant or Sorcery spells i should put in?

Epicurus on Cascade or not ?

3 months ago

I could make a lot of suggestions, but it would be a lot easier for me to link my Ramos Cascade Ramp deck. Don't look too hard at the land base, as it's amazingly pricy, and not the important part anyway.

Even when I played Cascade in Modern, I found that 5-color was the way to go. It gives you a much more conclusive list of options for cascade spells. Take note of a few things when you look at it:

  • There are no infinite combos in the deck, and it really doesn't need them.

  • I didn't include all existing cascade spells, yet it's still a very sizeable theme.

  • There's a lot of utility in there, so there are cards for every situation you might find yourself in.

  • No counterspells, because they are dead spells on a cascade.

  • Since Ramos is my commander (and I could make the argument that he's the best option), I chose multicolored spells where in a few instances there are monocolored spells that do the same thing for less.

  • I have a delicate balance of draw, ramp, removal and bounce. The bounce is important, because it allows me to recast cascade creatures (and also, to occasionally recast Niv-Mizzet Reborn).

  • Finally, just so you know, I have recently updated the deck slightly, but haven't updated the list here. Mostly to add extra protection for Ramos.

For specific card recommendations, just read the list, but also read the comments. There are definitely some good suggestions that I didn't take.

Happy Gathering!

LunchBox1211 on dragon tribal is glorious

3 months ago

I would like to say, before I say anything else, that the first few decks people build often have a bunch that could be fixed, so if it seems like I wrote an essay, I'm not trying to be overly critical. My first deck was a mono-white Angel Tribal Lifegain deck that had no real payoff for gaining life. Needless to say, it had a lot that could have been done, and my next deck was one of the Commander Pre-Cons from C18. I'd also like to say that these are just observations.

For cuts, I can see a few. Several of the planeswalkers seem only sort-of related, so you could get away with dropping some of them (like Gideon Blackblade and Ajani Steadfast). I'm not sure why Blackblade Reforged is in. It is great for go tall decks, where you want 1 really big creature (usually made big using equipments and/or auras), but in a go wide deck like this one, I'm not sure if you need it. Plus, dragons are fairly big on their own. | Chaplain's Blessing. I know gaining 5 life might seem good, but I've come to realize that gaining a bunch of life isn't very good without something like Aetherflux Reservoir. And at that point, I think a better option is to build around Aetherflux Reservoir, not dragons. | Not entirely sure what Bag of Holding is doing. | There are a few dragons that don't seem to be doing much, with the way your deck currently is. There doesn't seem to be a lot of instants/sorceries for Backdraft Hellkite get back. There aren't a lot of +1/+1 counter synergies, so Enduring Scalelord isn't doing a ton. There aren't a lot of artifacts, so Hellkite Igniter isn't getting the absurd amount of damage output that I've done with it, myself. It does have haste, but a 5/5 hasty flyer for 7 isn't super great. Unless you can give it deathtouch, most things in commander aren't bothered by Shockmaw Dragon's combat damage trigger. There aren't a lot of 2-colour spells for Niv-Mizzet Reborn to see off the top. | Dictate of Erebos can be brutal, but usually in aristocrat-style decks, where you want your own things to die.

Some other things I've noticed: Crux of Fate is a cheaper Descent of the Dragons that is also one sided. | About the Sarkhan question, I've always thought that Sarkhan the Masterless is kind of funny, and he can act as a deterrent for attacks (or a magnet, depending on board state). | 5 mana counterspells seems nice, but often end up being rather underwhelming, more often than not. | Fight effects (like Clash of Titans) are nice, but in a 5-colour deck, you also have cards like Path to Exile, Bedevil, Anguished Unmaking, Generous Gift, or Chaos Warp, that don't need you to have a big creature, and don't need you to put that creature at risk. | I feel like you could use a bit more ramp. I'd recommend a few of the guild signets from Ravnica, Arcane Signet and Farseek. | The Ur-Dragon was the out-of-the-box Commander for a 5-colour dragon tribal commander deck from C17. Usually he is the head of a dragon tribal deck, but he's still powerful in the 99.

All of this is just my opinion, with my own biases, and I'm still learning a fair bit myself, so take it with a grain of salt. Playtest it, see what works and what doesn't. See what you like, and what you don't. I will admit that I prefer more aggressive play as opposed to a slower, more control heavy style, so that may influence my choices, and I've also been (partially) traumatized by a few planeswalker decks before, so I don't really like them that much (although I do like the concept and design of them).

Lastly, I don't know if you have any pet cards or any cards that you are running because you like them (even if it may be not as good), so if a personal favorite is listed among the cuts, feel free to ignore that. Magic IS about having fun, at the end of the day. And, yes, Dragon Tribal is glorious!

LandoLRodriguez on [PRIMER] Morophon's Tribal Tribal

3 months ago

TheoryCrafter thanks for your comment! I totally agree with everything you said in part 1. I always prefer activated/triggered abilities over ETB/death effects that do the same thing in my commander decks. Niv-Mizzet Reborn is meant to be more of a bomb late game play than a true source of card advantage. I'm gonna wait to see how many guild color combos I wind up with as I whittle this list down. Seems to be way more Azorius and Selesnya than others at this point, although most guilds are represented in my master list here. We'll see, he probably won't make the cut, but it could be quite an impact for a card I can cast for free with Morophon in play.

It looks like there's only a couple tribal effects that I can't get on creature cards (making Cover of Darkness a mortal lock). Looks like most of my enchantments and artifacts will be for cheating creatures in. I can't wait to finally get to play Didgeridoo!

Definitely going to prefer creatures with no more than 1 of each color mana symbol, but there's some with 2 that're gonna be too good to pass up. I don't entirely love the break from MtG lore in some of the secret lair stuff, but Rick, Steadfast Leader is one of the very best tribal buffers I think. Death Baron seems like the only true deathtouch aura. Cards with 3 colored symbols probably won't make the cut for that reason (sorry, Azami).

For part 2, I hadn't considered Padeem + Forge for this deck. It's a combo I know well, I look to get them out in my artifact heavy Sen Triplets deck. Combine with Mycosynth Lattice to make ALL your stuff nearly impossible to kill! Anyway, I think I'm going to lean more towards trying to get Nexus back from the GY rather than protecting it in play. Protection doesn't keep it from being discarded or milled. Since posing my questions, I added Academy Ruins and Emry, Lurker of the Loch to my list and I think they'll be sufficient. Ruins will almost certainly make the cut, and hopefully I have a slot for Emry, and I think I'll try to find a slot for Padeem too. Even if they're mostly mana rocks, I should be running a good number of artifacts. Thanks for bringing him up, and for commenting in general!

Epicurus on The Holy Dragons Legion

3 months ago

I appreciate the creativity, and there are certainly a few suggestions I could present. But first, I think it is most important to address your choice of Commander.

Niv-Mizzet Reborn is absolutely not the right Commander for this deck. And I don't mean to say that all 5-color Dragon tribal decks should have The Ur-Dragon at the helm (though, that would be a great choice, just sayin'). My reason is simple: you don't have enough color pair cards on the list for 'Ol Nivvy to be useful. Like, at all. Even as part of the 99.

Now, you could fix that by adding spells such as Terminate, Abrupt Decay, Diabolic Vision, Faeburrow Elder, Render Silent, Anguished Unmaking, etc etc etc... Not to mention that you only have 8 color pair dragons in the deck, and 5 of them are Gruul (meaning, first of all, that the most amount of dragons you could snatch with Niv would be 3 and the chances of doing so are astronomical, and secondly that if you revealed 3 or more dragons by some dumb luck they're more likely to all be Gruul than any other combination, meaning you'd only get to keep one).

The thing is, you'd have to add a helluva lot of cards to make Niv palatable for this deck, and that would mean basically overhauling the entire deck. A much easier task would be to just simply change the commander.

As for general suggestions, I think you can use some Haste enablers. Dragon Tempest, Temur Ascendancy, Dragonlord Kolaghan and Sarkhan Vol come readily to mind, but there are a ton of other choices, such as Rhythm of the Wild, Fires of Yavimaya and Samut, Tyrant Smasher.

As for your question about better low-mana dragons, understand that there really aren't many good ones below MV4. I mean, they're dragons. What do you expect? However, here's a few of the better ones that aren't an arm and a leg:

Again, if you're going for a genuinely low curve dragon deck, you're going to be disappointed. It just really can't be done.

And finally, Lathliss, Dragon Queen is quite upset that she wasn't included.

That's all I got.

Cheers!

Evanbob007 on Monkey Sees the Glittering Light

4 months ago

How is it illegal? Where's the repeated mana symbol? See rule 709.4b, this is also how Fire / Ice can be picked up by Niv-Mizzet Reborn.

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