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Creature — Hydra
Trample (This creature can deal excess combat damage to defending player or planeswalker while attacking.)
Whenever a player casts a spell, put a +1/+1 counter on Managorger Hydra.
Managorger Hydra Discussion
2 weeks ago
Hey , thanks for the reply! The meta is extremely creature heavy. That's why I'm running Harsh Scrutiny in the mainboard (which I might replace with a Despise instead), with a third Duress in the sideboard to swap out when needed. We calculate based on the price on MTGGoldfish and I'm at $102 right now (https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2290506#paper), so you're probably right about Inquisition of Kozilek
We only have one burn-ish deck (which also happens to be me running a mono-red prowess variant), so I feel like lifegain can live in the sideboard for now (e.g. Pulse of Murasa & Spike Feeder ). I chose Grisly Salvage over Pulse of Murasa because I was getting mana-screwed pretty regularly. The cheap land package is really difficult to do in these particular three colours. But, Grisly Salvage is a card that I can use when I need to grab a land or when I want to grab a potentially game-swinging threat. And, I feel like since I'm not running fetches or anything that tosses things into the graveyard Pulse of Murasa will only grab low-cmc creatures that I had played earlier in the game rather than massive hulks that can swing things in my favour. That being said, Pulse of Murasa may be better in the late game, but worse in the early game (which is where I have trouble).
As for Aether Hub , I've felt like it's value is extremely dependent on getting Winding Constrictor or Glint-Sleeve Siphoner out. If you are desperate and have to use its energy counter, Aether Hub can be a dead land due to the high number of coloured spells in the deck. That's why I cut one. But, when it goes off, it really goes off! TBH, the land base is where this version of the deck really struggles (as well as the reliance on the Winding Constrictor / Glint-Sleeve Siphoner combo). So, any additional thoughts on these issues would be super helpful!
Bristling Hydra is a super interesting addition and might help with my Aether Hub problem. I'm worried it might be a bit slow and isn't a big enough payoff in the 4cmc slot. Greenbelt Rampager might also work in here. I honestly am not sure about either of those. I'll give it a shot either way!
Champion of Lambholt might also be a bit slot. On turn 4 and beyond, the plan is basically to play one big creature a turn (hopefully). So, I feel like Champion of Lambholt won't grow fast enough. I think you recommended Managorger Hydra in a comment thread earlier. Do you think either of these is better than Sprouting Thrinax in this deck?
Also, do you have a preference between Phyrexian Revoker and Pithing Needle ? I guess the threat and the ability to grow Scavenging Ooze with Phyrexian Revoker isn't worth the vulnerability it has as a creature. Pithing Needle is probably the better choice.
1 month ago
You probably think me strange when I say I think Managorger Hydra should be included on cuteness alone. Wild Pair is also a fun enchantment. Siege Behemoth and Giant Adephage could also be included. Waiting in the Weeds is a fun card. I don't know about you but I think the new spoilers Keeper of Fables is a good addition.
I hope this helps!
2 months ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.
Budget lands to consider adding:
- Command Tower : reprinted in Commander 2019 (C19), one of the best lands for multicolored Commander decks.
- Seaside Citadel : Bant Tri-land.
- Yavimaya Coast : reprinted in C19.
- Exotic Orchard : reprinted in C19.
- Ash Barrens : reprinted in C19.
- Prairie Stream : reprinted in C19.
- Canopy Vista
- Opal Palace
The lands that have been reprinted in C19 will decrease in price over the next month.
Upgrades to consider:
- Forgotten Ancient > Angel of Deliverance
- Managorger Hydra > Resplendent Griffin
- Cathars' Crusade > Elite Scaleguard or Cultivator of Blades
- Sol Ring > Teyo, the Shieldmage
- Good-Fortune Unicorn > New Horizons
- Thrummingbird > Shanna, Sisay's Legacy
- Grateful Apparition > Storm Fleet Aerialist
- Farseek > Nissa's Pilgrimage
- Inspiring Call > Ojutai's Command
- Brainstorm > Attune with Aether
- Ponder > Broken Bond
- Unbreakable Formation > Assure / Assemble
- Tezzeret's Gambit > Courage in Crisis
Many of these suggestions are repeatable sources of proliferate or counters. Ancient and Managorger are good with a counters theme because they get counters as you and your opponents cast spells. In multiplayer Commander these cards if not dealt with can get out of hand very fast especially Managorger because it has trample. Farseek can search for a dual land: Temple Garden , Irrigated Farmland or Scattered Groves . Being able to land ramp with a dual is helpful when playing three colors and wanting to be able to make turn three.
hnewman125 on EZuri
2 months ago
Just at a glance I would say decrease the number of instants and increase your enchantments and artifacts. Not by a lot, but just move some things around. Like adding in Forced Adaptation
Also, you might want to change up your lands. I didn't see a lot in the way of basic land boosts (that is, cards that have increased power for every basic land you have) so maybe try something like Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
Full honesty? I'm way too tired right now to be making coherent recommendations but my brain won't let me sleep until I tell you about those <$3 cards that could help change up your game. (Please note: I do not know your playstyle so my recommendations could be way off the mark on how you like to play)
3 months ago
Vulshok Sorcerer da bin ich mir unsicher, was du damit willst. Ja, er kann gut sein, wenn jemand viele kleine Sachen spielt, aber sehr häufig ist er auch nutzlos.
Ich habe noch ein paar Empfehlungen, die alle irgendwie mit Countern synergieren: Bane of Progress , Bow of Nylea , Curse of Predation , Curse of Stalked Prey , Durable Handicraft , Fangren Firstborn , Forgotten Ancient , Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter , Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin , Longshot Squad (stellvertretend für alle Kreaturen mit Outlast), Mowu, Loyal Companion , Ravenous Slime , Rishkar, Peema Renegade , Rubblebelt Raiders , Song of Freyalise , Verdurous Gearhulk , Ravager Wurm , Rhythm of the Wild
Vielleicht wäre es auch eine gute Möglichkeit Surrak Dragonclaw als Commander zu nehmen und dir so Zugriff auf Blau zu ermöglichen. Mir ist aufgefallen, dass bei dir eh ein wenig das Ziehen von Karten zu fehlen scheint.. Ansonsten empfehle ich Samut, Voice of Dissent . Ihr weiß kannst du wenn du willst ja auch ignorieren
3 months ago
.... why is this thread still going, legendofa seems to have answered it rather concisely.
unblockable is no longer a keyword
shroud was too symmetrical so hexproof was born
protection is used only when the flavor demands it
life gain and slivers both became more caster based
WOTC has been making steps toward making the game more accessible to new players to help compensate for the powercreep and added complexity of cards and strategies.
That being said, effect like Prism Ring arn't evidence of the game being "dumbed down". New cards often require a higher level of skill to use effectively you cant just slam Dragon's Claw against burn and say gg, you have to structure your deck and do work yourself to make the Prism Ring worth a slot in the 75, which promotes critical thinking and a wider range of playstyles/experience lvs.
and again cmc of the spell matters, prism ring on legs makes sense for 2cmc, but if youd rather have Iron Star on a stick .....
3 months ago
aside from the theory above/new player focus, flavor wise "charms" (error charm = Emerald Charm , Grixis Charm etc) make more sense being triggered off of it's owners use rather then all spells cast on the plane it exists on. Prism Ring also shows that WOTC values the new mementos' as a less powerful effect, and turning into a 1/3 horse for +1 mana follows the r&D casting cost rules.
diamond knight isnt a charm/memento, its closer to Quirion Dryad (but trading an easier casting cost for less spell colors) or the Managorger Hydra style creature, nerfed to be 1 cmc less and a colorless artifact (all things have a "cost" when building a card)
Managorger Hydra occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%