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Solve the Equation
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Search your library for an instant or sorcery card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
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DemonDragonJ on Rune-Scarred Demon or Sidisi, Undead …
2 weeks ago
griffstick, DreadKhan, I understand that, but the majority of tutors simply replace themselves, so I like tutors that have an additional effect, such as Primal Command, Shared Summons, or Rune-Scarred Demon; or, if I use a tutor that is simply one-for-one, I use it in a deck where I can copy it, such as me having Solve the Equation in my Riku of Two Reflections deck.
The_Warleader on
Brewing gross poisons
1 month ago
The Battlebond lands (such as Training Center ) are usually an auto-include for me and aren't too expensive (around 6-12 dollars each) and basically function as regular dual lands in EDH. You could use those instead of the fetch lands.
You aren't running a Command Tower.
Reflecting Pool is another powerful option (especially in 3-4 color decks) that isn't too expensive since it's been reprinted several times.
I wouldn't run Prismatic Vista at all even if you had the budget for it - there's just no reason to be fetching basics unless you're trying to fill your graveyard/or have important landfall triggers, etc. The same logic applies to the panoramas and Evolving Wilds, however if you are on a budget then it makes sense to include those as they're dirt cheap.
Another auto-include for me are buddy lands (e.g. Woodland Cemetery. They should work very well since you already have triomes and honestly they usually work fine even if you're running a lot of basics.
Temples are good but enter tapped ( Temple of Malice )
Exotic Orchard is quite cheap and is a staple in 4-5 color decks because you're almost guarenteed to get 2+ colors out of it.
If you're still looking for a lower budget, I would include the Battle Lands (e.g. Smoldering Marsh ) and just keep lots of basics and basic-fetches.
As for tutoring options - there are no good budget options really. Tutor's are often quite expensive because of their extensive use and the fact that most were printed early on in Magic's history. But you could go for the worse tutors like Diabolic Tutor and Increasing Ambition. Or Solve the Equation to look for spells that will target your Venerated Rotpriest.
Hope this helps!
Necramus on
Baral, Chief of No
2 months ago
Sea Gate Restoration  Flip - this can double as either a land or a phat ass draw spell, depending on how you want to use it, and options are always good!
Finale of Revelation - again, can be a phat spell or a more modest one, depending on what you need. You have several ways to discount spells, though, and so you can kinda cheat your way towards the high end of this spell.
Sapphire Medallion - don't need to explain this one.
Solve the Equation - excellent tutor for this deck and a budget option to Mystical Tutor, though, I'd suggest both.
Consuming Tide and Cyclonic Rift are both mono blue pseudo wipes that you'll probably want to help keep the battle field in your favor.
Rhystic Study - don't need to explain this one.
Mystic Sanctuary and Otawara, Soaring City are both free for you to play and are better than basics when you have so many.
As for additional counterspells I'd suggest Mana Leak, Tale's End, Force of Will, and Delay.
Since you're on the discount game, I'd also suggest Bribery and Mass Manipulation too!
And one last piece of removal: Imprisoned in the Moon
Hope this helps! I like that your curve is almost down to 3. Your deck building skills are getting keener!
Ardees on
Gates? Nine Fingers Keene Competitive
5 months ago
If you are aiming at 'competitive' in the technical sense of the term (as in 'cEDH' or 'competitive EDH'), like the title seems to suggest, I see many staples missing that unfortunately make the deck quite far from being competitive.
Artifacts: you should be running at least Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, Mana Vault, Jeweled Lotus, maybe even Grim Monolith and Lion's Eye Diamond.,
Tutors: you are missing Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, and Worldly Tutor and Green Sun's Zenith if you run any combo, win, or strategy whatsoever based on creatures. You could also add Wishclaw Talisman and Solve the Equation, and, although not a tutor, Peer into the Abyss, which works quite nicely with Thought Vessel.
Lands: any competitive deck plays true duals, namely Underground Sea, Bayou, and Tropical Island. Same for shocklands and at least 6-7 fetchlands in a 3-color deck like this one. You could also consider lower the number of lands, depending on whether or not you want to keep the Gate strategy
Protection: any competitive deck that plays blue automatically plays top-end counterspells, namely Swan Song, Arcane Denial, Force of Will, Force of Negation, Pact of Negation, Fierce Guardianship, Mental Misstep, An Offer You Can't Refuse, and Flusterstorm. You are also missing key cards like Cyclonic Rift or Chain of Vapor. Needless to say, ideally a competitive deck playing blue also plays Timetwister: not a counterspell but a must card (yeah, the price is another topic of conversation).
Creatures: I understand the Gate theme but you are missing some high-value creature cards in here, most notably Dauthi Voidwalker, Malevolent Hermit  Flip, Lotus Cobra, Azusa, Lost but Seeking, Tatyova, Benthic Druid, Ramunap Excavator, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Oracle of Mul Daya, Elvish Reclaimer - to name a few. Much depends on the strategy of your deck, although don't let keywords aligned with your strategy (e.g. 'Gate') fool you into thinking some cards are good for that.
Enchantments: a few staples in the current competitive meta: Rhystic Study, Mystic Remora, Sylvan Library, Burgeoning, Exploration, maybe Abundance and Necropotence
Removals: you could most definitely swap some of your removals for something better and more competitive, such as Force of Vigor, Nature's Claim, Abrupt Decay, Assassin's Trophy, and more.
Now, I totally understand there is a budget situation going on with upgrading to competitive MtG (spoiler alert: MtG is a pay-to-win type of game, research confirms), but generally the term 'competitive' sticks to decks that, to the very least, include most if not all cards mentioned above - without mentioning the fact that any competitive deck needs running at least one winning combo. At this stage, your level is more looking towards casual. This isn't to criticize you or anything of course, pretty interesting build, just not really a competitive deck in its strict sense.
If you want to try the competitive experience, my suggestion is to proxy cards by printing them online - this should cost around 10 bucks on colored and good quality paper, and effectively save you more than 7k worth of cards.
Grimgrinner on
Bant Roon EDH
6 months ago
Ill stick to just the mana base for now. Far too many of your lands enter the battlefield tapped. This will make your deck extremely slow, even against pre-constructed decks. I suggest that you swap in some basic lands, and cut ETB tapped lands like Tranquil Cove. You can make up for the lack of color fixing with the "talisma" mana rock cycle.
Talisman of Curiosity, Talisman of Progress, and Talisman of Unity. I think they're better in your deck than the signets. Also, if you need color fixing after diluting your lands, you can try a few effects. Dryad of the Ilysian Grove is a favorite, and so is Chromatic Lantern.
Also I'm not a fan of Frilled Mystic in this deck, wayyy too color intensive even with fixing effects.
Further, the single Walk the Aeons is the only piece of that combo in your deck. I suggest adding some more extra turns spells so the combo can resolve through graveyard hate, countermagic, or just bad luck. Additionally, some instant/sorcery tutors would be good. Solve the Equation is a good budget option, but Mystical Tutor is an even better tutor.
I also suggest asking your play group if they would be OK with proxying cards so you can get a feel for the format. Get a high quality printer (like at a library) and find a site that lets you print proxies. I like deckstats. net.
Necramus on
Queza, the Queefer
6 months ago
Okay. So, I think you should really lean into the control/combo shell. This deck could use combos like Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood, with some added redundancy in the forms of Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose and Marauding Blight-Priest, or Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion to close out the game. In order to accomplish this, I think you should cut a ton of the creatures and really lean into board wipes, control spells, and resource denial.
Things like:
You could also do cute stuff like Phyrexian Unlife + Solemnity, giving yourself time to wipe the board again or go for the win with Peer into the Abyss. You should also consider taking a look at your mana base.
I'd suggest going for some fetches, checks, and shocks like:
You also have way too many plains right now. Even before you get the lands I just named, you should cut 6 Plains for 4 Swamp and 2 Island.
I know I've given you a lot of suggestions. I think if you tried putting a list together with all the cards I named, plus some of the bangers from your current list and you'd have a badass deck! Don't worry about trying to do all that right now, though. See which look most appealing/are in your price range and add those first. A lot of these should be long term goals!
Don't tell Rett I gave you so many suggestions XD
-Blake
Ardees on
The Url of Dragons
6 months ago
44 lands are definitely too many. Even in a landfall deck like Omnath you wouldn't see that many lands. Start by reducing the land count by swapping for mana-tutoring cards like Farseek, Nature's Lore, and Three Visits. Naturally, this only makes sense insofar as you're playing dual lands. You don't have to play shock lands if you can't afford them; common cheap duals came out that enter tapped, and you'll be able to tutor them with those.
Much depends on your budget I guess, but I'm noticing you have few tutoring options. There are some cheap options out there you could explore, like Profane Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, or even Solve the Equation.
Consider also adding some haste options, for instance via Lightning Greaves, Anger, Crashing Drawbridge, and definitely Dragon Tempest.
multimedia on My Highest Powered Deck
7 months ago
Hey, you have an interesting/fun deck, but sorry it's casual power level (PL) 5 at most.
Lands in the manabase and ramp sources are a big sign of what PL. A low budget manabase that has Highland Lake and Temple of the False God isn't PL 7-8. Very little ramp with a 4.0 avg. CMC is not PL 7-8. Please get rid of Temple of the False God.
It's difficult to get to PL 8 or higher on a low budget because the best lands and mana rocks are some of the most expensive cards in Commander. At best on a low budget unless playing mono-colored you're looking at PL 6. Your deck doesn't have any instants or sorceries? Izzet has many good low budget instants and sorceries especially for draw.
You have an infinite combo Niv-Mizzet, Parun + Curiosity, that helps to have a higher PL. Although, Niv-Mizzet, Parun is better as a win condition when it's the Commander not inside the 99. You have many potential other win conditions: Purphoros, God of the Forge, Reckless Fireweaver, Impact Tremors, Nettle Drone, etc., but lack enablers to combo with these win conditions.
To increase PL your deck needs to be more tuned to get to the final goal which is to win the game. PL 8 uses just about all cards in the deck to help to assemble a combo win, ramp, tutor, draw, protect the combo or stop an opponent's combo. If a card doesn't help to do one of these then it's not needed in the deck. Don't try to get to PL 8 unless you can spend for expensive price cards instead shoot for PL 6.
Here's some low budget cards to increase the PL of your deck:
- Arcane Signet
- Talisman of Creativity
- Izzet Signet
- Mind Stone
- Shivan Reef
- Cascade Bluffs
- Glint-Horn Buccaneer
- Tandem Lookout
- Ophidian Eye
- Brainstorm
- Counterspell
- Preordain
- Ponder
- Frantic Search
- Negate
- Impulse
- Arcane Denial
- Pull from Tomorrow
- Fact or Fiction
- Sigil of Sleep
- Basilisk Collar
- Banishing Knack
- Everflowing Chalice
- Ornithopter
- Retraction Helix
- Expansion / Explosion
- Dualcaster Mage
- Solve the Equation
- Ral, Storm Conduit
- Memory Deluge
- Chaos Warp
- Capsize
- Grixis Panorama
- Temple of Epiphany
- Izzet Boilerworks
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