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Rules Q&A
An Offer You Can't Refuse
Instant
Counter target noncreature spell. Its controller creatures two Treasure tokens. (They're artifacts with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any colour.")
Dencoan on
Spirit Squad building
3 weeks ago
For Interaction:
Add:
- Path to Exile
- Swan Song
- Dovin's Veto
- Mana Drain
- Return to Dust
- An Offer You Can't Refuse or Miscast
- Archmage's Charm would also count as one
amarthaler on
EDH Arcades, the Strategist
2 months ago
Major update!
The deck has been running well when I draw the right cards, but stalls out or is clunky when I don't draw good cards. I think the best starting point to smooth the deck out is by reducing the amount of counterspells to open up room for smoother mana (in the form of mana rocks), spells that asymmetrically counteract something but benefit me, and some stronger walls that - although will cost more - will have better payoffs. That all being said, here's the ins/outs.
Out: An Offer You Can't Refuse... Wall of Vines... Stoneskin... Wall of Resistance... Treefolk Umbra... Mana Leak... Bane's Contingency... Wall of Stolen Identity... Vedalken Orrery... Wall of Ice... Render Silent
In: Heroic Intervention... Fog Bank... Snake Umbra... Wingmantle Chaplain... Brave the Sands... Talisman of Curiosity... Talisman of Unity... Talisman of Progress... Wall of Nets... Eerie Interlude... Champion's Helm
A lot of card swaps which we'll test out. Some may get reversed back in. That's the fun of developing a deck over time!
amarthaler on
EDH Arcades, the Strategist
2 months ago
Updates!
Out: An Offer You Can't Refuse... Wall of Vines... Stoneskin... Wall of Resistance
In: Snake Umbra... Heroic Intervention... Fog Bank... Wingmantle Chaplain
Many games I find myself interacting with counter spells too often and its very taxing on my resources, so I removed 1 counter spell and replaced it with Heroic Intervention to allow a board wipe to happen, but not to me. I also like the Umbras a lot for protecting Arcades, and want to try Snake Umbra for that protection plus card draw. Lastly, I'd like to try Fog Bank and Wingmantle Chaplain so I added them.
Mattio38 on
Joneleth Irenicus
2 months ago
Thanks a lot for your feedback carpecanum
Starting from the bottom: I agree with you and I think that's the biggest weakness of the deck. I still own cards like An Offer You Can't Refuse and Lazotep Plating which could help me solve that problem. But I have no clue what to cut for those. Any suggestions for that?
I initially ran Tainted Strike but I had to cut it for a removal spell, because I'm already quite short on those too... It does seem like a ton of fun though!
Plague Reaver is aweful. It's cheap, it's big, it's perfect! Completely missed that card. On behalf of my playgroup: Thank you
Max_Hammer on
Shorikai go vroom
4 months ago
So, right now, Commander included, you've got 126 cards. Seeing as you're only 26 over the cap, this shouldn't be too bad.
You might also want to include more fetch lands, too. Flooded Strand, Fabled Passage, and Flood Plain all come with a pretty high price tag, but they're all good.
On the other side of the coin, Brokers Hideout, Obscura Storefront, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Myriad Landscape, Esper Panorama, and Bant Panorama are all cheaper fetch lands that you could use.
Drawing mana late game can be a dead draw a lot of the time, so being able to remove that excess from your deck can be a really nice tool to have, so you can draw just what you want. Maybe take out cards that are fast, but not necessary such as, Skycloud Expanse, Sea of Clouds, Mishra's Factory, and Crawling Barrens.
Potential Land List Show
Changing it to this (or a list of just 35 mana), should bring us down to 122 cards.
118 left.
For the rest, I’d say Ondu Inversion Flip, Access Denied, Tezzeret the Seeker, Tezzeret, Artifice Master, Phyrexian Metamorph, Cultivator's Caravan, Invoke Justice, and An Offer You Can't Refuse, all mostly because they’re too expensive.
That leaves you with 109
Okay, so, this decklist is surprisingly tight for being 30~ cards over and I don’t know where to kick the last 9 off. Maybe Artificer Class? Maybe some of the creatures/vehicles? Idunno, good luck.
Grind on
Izzet what-cha-ma-call it
5 months ago
I dislike 1 card combos with your commander. But as you are running curiosity, you should add more tutors for it.
Long-Term Plans, Gamble, Dizzy Spell.
Consider Mystic Remora and An Offer You Can't Refuse.
I suggest more 2 drop ramp Fellwar Stone, Thought Vessel and more cantrips like Preordain.
Ardees on
Gates? Nine Fingers Keene Competitive
5 months ago
If you are aiming at 'competitive' in the technical sense of the term (as in 'cEDH' or 'competitive EDH'), like the title seems to suggest, I see many staples missing that unfortunately make the deck quite far from being competitive.
Artifacts: you should be running at least Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, Mana Vault, Jeweled Lotus, maybe even Grim Monolith and Lion's Eye Diamond.,
Tutors: you are missing Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, and Worldly Tutor and Green Sun's Zenith if you run any combo, win, or strategy whatsoever based on creatures. You could also add Wishclaw Talisman and Solve the Equation, and, although not a tutor, Peer into the Abyss, which works quite nicely with Thought Vessel.
Lands: any competitive deck plays true duals, namely Underground Sea, Bayou, and Tropical Island. Same for shocklands and at least 6-7 fetchlands in a 3-color deck like this one. You could also consider lower the number of lands, depending on whether or not you want to keep the Gate strategy
Protection: any competitive deck that plays blue automatically plays top-end counterspells, namely Swan Song, Arcane Denial, Force of Will, Force of Negation, Pact of Negation, Fierce Guardianship, Mental Misstep, An Offer You Can't Refuse, and Flusterstorm. You are also missing key cards like Cyclonic Rift or Chain of Vapor. Needless to say, ideally a competitive deck playing blue also plays Timetwister: not a counterspell but a must card (yeah, the price is another topic of conversation).
Creatures: I understand the Gate theme but you are missing some high-value creature cards in here, most notably Dauthi Voidwalker, Malevolent Hermit Flip, Lotus Cobra, Azusa, Lost but Seeking, Tatyova, Benthic Druid, Ramunap Excavator, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Oracle of Mul Daya, Elvish Reclaimer - to name a few. Much depends on the strategy of your deck, although don't let keywords aligned with your strategy (e.g. 'Gate') fool you into thinking some cards are good for that.
Enchantments: a few staples in the current competitive meta: Rhystic Study, Mystic Remora, Sylvan Library, Burgeoning, Exploration, maybe Abundance and Necropotence
Removals: you could most definitely swap some of your removals for something better and more competitive, such as Force of Vigor, Nature's Claim, Abrupt Decay, Assassin's Trophy, and more.
Now, I totally understand there is a budget situation going on with upgrading to competitive MtG (spoiler alert: MtG is a pay-to-win type of game, research confirms), but generally the term 'competitive' sticks to decks that, to the very least, include most if not all cards mentioned above - without mentioning the fact that any competitive deck needs running at least one winning combo. At this stage, your level is more looking towards casual. This isn't to criticize you or anything of course, pretty interesting build, just not really a competitive deck in its strict sense.
If you want to try the competitive experience, my suggestion is to proxy cards by printing them online - this should cost around 10 bucks on colored and good quality paper, and effectively save you more than 7k worth of cards.
N3M0 on Official missing/incorrect card/token thread
5 months ago
I can no longer locate the add a card feature. An Offer You Can't Refuse, Obscura Charm, and Obscura Storefront are missing the (NCC) printing.
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