Pact of Negation

Instant

This is blue.

Counter target spell.

At the beginning of your next upkeep, pay {3}{U}{U}. If you don't, you lose the game.

Combos

• Hive Mind + Pact of Negation

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (48)

Xica on Madcap Control

3 weeks ago

I had a similar-ish list to yours - with moderate success - around hogaak winter (when meta was hogaak + amulet titan).

With no blockers, and only counterspells for ineraction t7 is too slow.

I abused Madcap Experiment to ge around he issue way back then. Frankly in a package like yours Pact of Negation should be THE counterspell as far as free ones go. You have little to no card draw engines - as such pitch spells are an enormous liability.*

And depending on how the meta ebbs and flows (mostly on presence of noncreature removal)) Robe of Mirrors can be backbreaking.

*card selection cantrips are where card advantage is at. Read up turbo xerox principle. T4 JTMS or suspended ancestral vision is not timely enough.

Icbrgr on Using Disrupting Shoal

3 weeks ago

the main point to consider with shoal or at least what i've been getting hung up on is the being able to cast on your turn. Force of Negation is amazing but if you go to tap out on your turn to play a threat like Goblin Charbelcher/Jace, the Mind Sculptor or something like that... the build im doing doesn't have the means to use Flare of Denial as anything but a Cancel.

in my more COMBO style decks ive used Pact of Negation where i just planned on going all out to win the game when i tapped out/played my combo pieces... but this brew doesnt quite play that way.

MLS91 on Aminatou, Veil Piercer

1 month ago

if youre running Hive Mind at the very least run any of the pacts, in this specific case i would suggest Pact of Negation

steveoowns on Mono Red Legacy

2 months ago

Okay, so the infect is practically gone from this deck, and with it go most the artifacts that can't be used for the red free spells. I sill have the Inkmoths because I think they're good for my turn 2 consistency with the built in evasion, but Pact of the Titan giving me the 4/4 for free should step things up a bit, and the 4/4 body made me look back to the comment klone13 to go for a bigger shoal bonus, and taking the biggest one I could find in Volcanic Salvo puts me in a position where if I'm on the draw the 4/4 titan can swing pretty reasonably for 20 outright. Another newer haste enabler in Samut's Sprint was added to help with hopefully getting it off the ground since infect is now more of an alt wincon. Pulled Red Elemental Blast out of the sideboard since the deck cant afford the mana opting for Pact of Negation instead, I can't pay the cost but if the deck is working right, even if I have to delay a turn, I shouldn't be worried about having to pay the cost, either I win when I'm playing the cards or I have already lost.

Kjartan on The Book of Exalted Deeds

3 months ago

4x Pact of Negation seems really excessive seeing it can't feasibly protect you casting a combo piece, unless you're comboing out of Lotus Bloom. It's not online unless you're set up to do a one turn cast + activate book with Mutavault left over as well.

Maybe if you played Angel's Grace, it would work better? It would give you an option to use Pact of Negation before you've achieved a winning board-state, an it's also a decent card to put under Isochron Scepter meaning it works on two axis in your deck.

But ultimately, I'd just move pact to the side-board, I think.

LordDonato on The Queen's Egg

3 months ago

Mortlocke and Flodes,

To jump in on this, I recently picked up the Flusterstorm you mentioned and have been trying to fit it into this list somewhere. Strix Serenade was also on my radar, as it rounds out Swan Song nicely. This is the primary deck I play, and the cards on the chopping block for me are Cyclonic Rift and Pact of Negation. Rift is underwhelming unless overloaded and the Pact upkeep cost (unless protecting your win on your turn) is basically a time walk. 5 or 6 open mana is coming close on win-con range, so it seems less than ideal to leave that open or spend it on upkeep. Choosing one I would probably replace Cyclonic Rift with Flusterstorm, but I may give the Serenade a chance as well.

nuperokaso on Win Turn 0 vs Yu-Gi-Oh

4 months ago

If you actually playtest the deck, many times your hand is not that great.

1. 8 of your tutors put the card only on the top of your library rather than into your hand. I suggest you play Demonic Tutor rather than Imperial Seal.
2. You have problems with color fixing. You end up being unable to play your cards because you don't have right combination of mana. If your plan is solely to play only one turn, then Lotus Petal is better than Mox Jet or Mox Sapphire.
3. With Dark Ritual and 8 Lotuses, It's reasonable to get to 5-6 black mana. Some 2 Ad Nauseam and/or Yawgmoth's Bargain would improve your consistency.
4. Ceremonious Rejection looks bad. If your only plan is to play for one turn, play Pact of Negation. You'll save 1 mana and have more possible targets. It's better if you start the game. If your opponent starts the game, Ceremonious Rejection only works if you have Leyline of Anticipation. And if you have that, you should able to win even with Pact of Negation trigger.
5. Play 4 Gitaxian Probe and 4 Street Wraith. Your deck doesn't care for life, and you need to get your relevant cards.
6. If you are allowed to play 4 Black Lotus and 4 Blacker Lotus, then I assume anything is playable. If so, you forgot to include the most powerful card in the entire history - Contract from Below

DreadKhan on Sisay- CEDH Build

5 months ago

I'm not sure if you should be running that many guild Signets, why not just run more Green ramp that is better at fixing your mana? Artifacts do better in cEDH than more casual games, but you'll be feeding Dockside. I'd even run Talismans over Signets if you feel desperate for 2 mana rocks, Talisman of Indulgence is a more useful card in most situations than Rakdos Signet. Also Fellwar Stone exists fwiw.

Similarly, I'm not sure if you should run ETB tapped Fetches in a cEDH deck, but I will admit the fixing is nice. Stuff like Rocky Tar Pit belong in more casual games, at least in my experience.

I can see you have tons of combos in here, but I can't help but mention Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, she synergizes incredibly well with Sisay, Emiel and a Haste source (like Samut), usually netting you infinite mana and as many cards as you want (by flickering your Sisay, who should be the strongest creature). I only mention it because I think you've got everything Selvala needs to work, and she's a Legendary mana dork that can make any colours of mana.

If you're hoping to play cEDH I would recommend you run at least a couple Counters, some relatively affordable ones (that still hit relevant stuff reliably) are Swan Song, An Offer You Can't Refuse, and maybe Pact of Negation or even Flusterstorm. If these are too pricey you can also try Arcane Denial or Dispel. I would definitely run Dispel over Lightning Greaves in a deck like this, people don't run Sorcery speed answers very often in cEDH, so they'll just wait until you're going to equip the Greaves and then Swords you.

Do you have a plan for Opposition Agent? I feel like if people resolve one you're going to be having a very bad time, unless I'm missing a bunch of removal, and people love Oppo in cEDH. You might consider some of the more versatile removal options, stuff like Generous Gift, Stroke of Midnight, and Beast Within can hit pretty near anything you need gone.