Pact of Negation
Pact of Negation is blue.
Counter target spell.
At the beginning of your next upkeep, pay . If you don't, you lose the game.
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Pact of Negation Discussion
1 week ago
Hey Snake57, good to hear from you again!
So far, I haven't seen many possible additions from strixhaven. I think Baleful Mastery is awesome if you can get a small favour from the opponent who draws the card. But my playgroup is all too familiar with my shenanigans, so they don't make deals with me anymore :')
Lotus Petal seems like a good addition! Even with 33 lands, sometimes find myself with too many, so it's probably reasonable for me to cut a land for it too.
I've been pretty satisfied with Spell Pierce , but you're right about it being narrow. If your opponents are playing a lot of ramp, or tend to pass with mana up, then Spell Pierce might be too weak. I don't think I'd play Pact of Negation because the upkeep cost is too much of a downside (if you can't win the turn you cast it). I think Pact of Negation is best suited for combo decks that can win right away if their spell resolves.
I haven't been able to play much commander lately, but I feel pretty confident about my most recent changes, so I'll try to add them to the primer soon! I do miss playing Commit / Memory since it was a key target for Personal Tutor and Mystical Tutor , but I just don't think it's strong enough.
Speaking of Personal Tutor , I've been considering cutting it since it can't grab Draco or Blinkmoth Infusion . Another potential cut I've been considering is Unnatural Selection , it's felt kind of weak recently.
A couple of additions I'm thinking about are Street Wraith , like you mentioned, and Run Away Together since it can bounce two of my opponents' creatures, helping Yuriko connect on the following turn.
1 month ago
Even if you do hold priority after Pact of Negation 's trigger goes onto the stack (which you'd need to be specific about before somehow knowing your opponent is going to Mana Short you), you'll still lose in this situation.
The is paid as the delayed trigger from Pact is resolving. You have to pass priority to your opponent at some point before the trigger can start to resolve, and your opponent can respond by Shorting you. Any mana you've put into your pool before this point (and any mana you put into your pool in response to the Short) will be gone by the time you need to pay for the Pact. Your only options will be to get the mana from non-land sources, since all your lands are now tapped.
1 month ago
So I play a Pact of Negation , rolls round to my turn and after I untap my mana an opponent casts Mana Short targeting me. Do I hold priority at the start of my upkeep and get to pay the mana costs required for Pact of Negation or does it go on the stack at which point priority is passed and the Mana Short will tap my lands meaning I can't pay the costs and thus, lose the game?
1 month ago
Some more decks that I’ve run into:
Here’s also some of the newer builds I have developed:
1 month ago
I think it's funny that someone is defending WOTC not reprinting Intervention Pact with the reason being that it sucks in a thread about What is Wrong with White.
Design is What is Wrong with White.
When creating the Pact cycle, someone at their offices actually thought that Intervention Pact is good enough to share a cycle and design space with Pact of Negation . Or good enough to be in the same group with it. And then a whole group of people in design, R&D and the approval process also thought the same thing.
The sad part is that a card like Holy Day is probably a much better card overall and in more situations.
2 months ago
Hi there. So having a look at your deck, I would first say there is a lack of interaction with other decks. I get the want to get as much value as possible off of Primal Surge , but a single Counterspell could ruin your day. Have you thought about running your own interaction for this? Pact of Negation , Fierce Guardianship and Force of Negation could all help your plans come to fruition.
I also thought could you make more use of things like enchantment, as these are permanents also. Things like Aura Shards can help with selective removal of problem artifacts and enchantments, Mirari's Wake gives you an anthem and mana doubler, and Shared Animosity could really pump your board in damage if you are on a go wide attack strategy.
As a fellow sliver player (check my profile if you want to see my deck), a word of warning Harmonic Sliver is not optional. You could end up wiping out your artifacts and enchantments lol. Just as a piece of advice, asbi have had to start blowing up my own stuff in the past.
+1 for your hive though. Always good to have more in the collective
2 months ago
in cEDH currently, Pact of Negation is a card that you decide if you want to run but it really isn't something ran. Fierce Guardianship took its place when it was printed.
4 months ago
Platinum Angel is why the token etb was able to resolve
Omniscience_is_life haha I Love It!. but i dont take credit for this play i was in the game but did not respond to any of the events that unfolded it was just to funny to watch
i do have 3 plays i love to tell
last year on my turn 0 i casted Pact of Negation on my buddies turn 1 Sol Ring
thanks giving 2019 in a 10 player game.
I turned 1 Mountain into Sol Ring
turn 2 Mountain & Repercussion
turn 3 Forest, Natural Affinity & then Blasphemous Act
everyone thought it was going to be a long game, one of the people kept saying i don't understand how did i die lmao!!
and i dont remeber if it was 2018 or 2019
i built my Kenrith, the Returned King infinite of infinite deck
in one game my combo went off on turn 4
it gets complicated but its was a 36 card combo that allowed me to move my libary straight to hand or battle field, move my hand to battlefield or grave yard, grave yard to hand or libary, and exile to grave yard
i then looped a spell causing all the players to put all there lands onto the battle field, then milled there decks put all there creatures from graveyard onto play under there control, shuffled there graveyards back into the libary, made them draw all but the last 5 cards of there decks, i then casted Happily Ever After & Teferi's Protection and passed the turn