Lion's Eye Diamond
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Big Apple Highlander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Freeform Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
PreDH Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Lion's Eye Diamond

Artifact

Sacrifice this, discard your hand: Add three mana of any one colour. Activate this ability only any at time you could play an instant.

Rhadamanthus on How do I cast spells?

1 month ago

FYI I have re-selected the "Accepted answer" based on the correction to the Lion's Eye Diamond question.

Neotrup on How do I cast spells?

1 month ago

The answer to 2 is no. As originally printed, Lion's Eye Diamond says "play this ability as a mana source," which would allow you to move your spell to the stack, then activate it to pay for the spell. When it was printed you had to float your mana before announcing the spell, so it wouldn't have let you pay for a spell cast from your hand. To maintain the original functionality, Lion's Eye Diamond now says "activate only as an instant," which means you can only activate it when you have priority, not during the casting of a spell.

(10/4/2004) The ability is a mana ability, so it is activated and resolves as a mana ability, but it can only be activated at times when you can cast an instant. Yes, this is a bit weird.

Polaris on How do I cast spells?

1 month ago

1: Yes. Per rules 601.2 f, g, and h, you determine the cost to cast the spell, then activate any mana abilities you need to pay the costs, then pay the cost from 601.2f to cast the spell. You can wait to sacrifice Lotus Petal until after the cost for Thoughtcast is locked in at .

2: Yes. Moving the card to the stack is the first step in proposing to cast a spell (rule 602.1a). If the casting is determined to be invalid this will be taken back, but a spell has already left your hand by the time you discard cards or similar to pay the cost to cast it. You do not discard your Yawgmoth's Bargain to Lion's Eye Diamond when using the Diamond to pay the casting cost.

SufferFromEDHD on Let the Nightmare Go On..

4 months ago

Demonic Collusion discard AND tutor

Dark Petition tutor AND ritual

Lion's Eye Diamond ritual AND discard

Argentum Masticore discard AND interaction

Incarnation Technique > Afterlife from the Loam

Imp's Mischief and/or Temporal Extortion your mono black deck could benefit from some "" spells

NV_1980 on Ur-Dragon - cEDH

5 months ago

I'd recommend you try and play-test this on the site. I just did and if cEDH is anything like I remember, this is nowhere near competitive yet. I tried to draw twenty or so starting hands as well as the following 5 cards but very few examples yielded anything resembling useful actions before turn 5.

In order to make this truly competitive (which is admitedly hard for most 5-color decks), you need more 0-mana rocks, like the really expensive ones like Lion's Eye Diamond and Mox Diamond and/or your land-count needs to increase by 4 or 5 and/or your cheap ramp (sorceries?) need to increase and/or the amount of tutors you're using needs to increase.

Also, for a competitive deck, this one is way too low on its (cheap) draw options. Just saying. Stuff like Preordain, Ponder, etc.

Good luck.

DreadKhan on Meren Sacrifice Shenanigans

5 months ago

I see that you are taking a pretty different angle than I did here, but there might be a few cards that I can suggest from my own Meren and the Golgari Queens. Would Savra, Queen of the Golgari make sense in your list? It's a slightly different Grave Pact, but at 4 mana and easy to cast she can come out earlier, the life gain is a lot less important other than offsetting the payment for the effect.

I think they're about as fun as an untreatable toothache, but Grave Pact effects in my experience like you to run several of the Merciless Executioner type creatures that exist, Accursed Marauder is a great start, but I think Plaguecrafter and Demon's Disciple might fit. I don't know exactly how many you'd 'want', but I'd run 3-5 creatures that exist almost purely to make everyone sacrifice a creature. IMHO if you only run one or the other the Executioners are probably the better include since you can get them out sooner, they stand alone (Grave Pact does nothing if you don't have a creature), and you can recur them with your Commander, but both are INCREDIBLY nasty when combined. In the decks I have that use edicts you really want to reach 'critical mass', so that you both have access to an Edict when it's necessary, but also have enough to continuously pare back the opponent's board.

This is a personal preference more than anything, but when I play Meren my fondest hope is usually to have a creature that ramps me that also kills itself; Sakura Tribe Elder is the 'gold standard' of the effect, but I think you could benefit from Diligent Farmhand and Dawntreader Elk, and maybe Yavimaya Granger. I even run Fertilid and Burnished Hart, but I don't think I'd recommend them to anyone else at this point! Anyways, the idea is you juggle one of these to both gain XP for Meren while ramping yourself, and when you draw something better to reanimate just reanimate that. The ramp is usually very useful to cast either Protean Hulk or Razaketh.

Speaking of Razaketh, I found it VERY useful to have mass untap effect to go with Life/Death, once Life/Death makes all your lands into weenies you can untap them with something like Vitalize or Benefactor's Draught. I also threw in a Songs of the Damned and Dark Ritual to help generate mana when I'm short. Lotus Petal is also a very good Razaketh card if you don't want to spring for Lion's Eye Diamond.

Just a little tip I stumbled upon, most Meren decks have very high Black devotion, but they rely heavily on early Green ramp; I really wanted to shave lands for creatures in my list, but since I can find Swamps with Forests via ramp, I ended up running WAY less Black sources than Green. I used 7 Basic Swamps and 2 Swamp/Forest duals, and I find I have very few fixing issues, even with a very low land count, since I almost never need more than 2 lands early on, and I found the deck absolutely hated drawing into them (Meren is a deck where I feel like you're supposed to run all the creature ramp you can, because Meren cares so much about Creatures and so little about non-creature spells, lands are dead draws).

I guess that brings me to the last point, I feel like you should really try to get more creatures into this list; your Commander does absolutely nothing if you don't have creatures in the graveyard. I have 57 in the 99 atm, I feel like having less than 40 in a Meren deck is too few. The nice thing about creatures is that Golgari has a LOT of creature synergies, I love using Lurking Predators or Heartwood Storyteller.

If you want more specific help feel free to ask!

Jund_Machinist on Breya, Doomsday Dominatrix

1 year ago

The main lines for the deck seem to be to either keep the Doomsdayfoil tech in or go with Underworld Breachfoil and a package that supports it. Cards I'm looking at include:

Brain Freeze to combo with Underworld Breachfoil and Lion's Eye Diamond, plus Wheel of Fortune etc.

Sevinne's Reclamation since it allows Intuition to directly tutor the previous combo in regardless of choice with Sevinne's, Underworld Breachfoil and Lion's Eye Diamond.

Final Fortunefoil seems really powerful.

Opposition Agent and Dauthi Voidwalker stronk.

Draw dorks: Ledger Shredder, Faerie Mastermind, Esper Sentinel, also Lotho, Corrupt Shirriff.

For more protection, Ranger-Captain of Eosfoil and Orcish Bowmasters

Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer seems meh unless in your opener.

Smothering Tithe cool, but 4 mana.

An Offer You Can't Refuse, Strix Serenade, Minor Misstep, Mindbreak Trapfoil, Dress Down

capwner on Oops, All Bugs!! 2: Insectric Bugaloo

1 year ago

Thanks SufferFromEDHD! Yeah Songs of the Damned is a pretty core part of our gameplan here :) I've never built belcher in EDH before so this was fun, I'd like to try a 4 or 5 color list sometime. I saw one on here that looked cool where you used 5c Sisay to tutor Inventors' Fair to tutor the Belcher. I think 5c could be a lot of fun just because you could run a lot more mdfc land and build it more like a normal deck. I am also playing around with an idea for a budget version of this deck that uses The Chain Veil to grist ult same turn and kill without needing the Yawgmoth's Will or Lion's Eye Diamond, the main cost for the deck. Thanks for checking out the list :)

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