Creature cards in graveyards or libraries can't enter the battlefield.
Players can't cast spells from graveyards or libraries.
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|Core Set 2020 (M20)||Rare|
|Modern Masters 2017 Edition (MM3)||Rare|
|Dark Ascension (DKA)||Rare|
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Grafdigger's Cage occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
All decks: 0.03%
All decks: None%
Grafdigger's Cage Discussion
10 hours ago
It seems like many Yuriko lists have moved to labfish combos, which I'm not a big fan of. For this build my goal is to continue using more of a burn strategy with a subtheme of turns. That being said, it could easily be updated to support the newer combo based wincons.
Removed: Countersquall, Curfew, Dark Ritual, Darkness, Far / Away, Memory Lapse, Mission Briefing, Treasure Cruise, Fallen Shinobi, Mist-Syndicate Naga, Sakashima the Impostor, Spectral Sailor, Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive, Bitterblossom, Smoke Shroud, Bojuka Bog, Castle Vantress, Mystic Sanctuary, Grafdigger's Cage
Added: Arcane Signet, Bloodstained Mire, Chrome Mox, Damping Sphere, Exotic Orchard, Force of Despair, Frantic Search, Gitaxian Probe, Mausoleum Wanderer, Plaguecrafter, Snap, Spell Snare, Temporal Mastery, Universal Automaton
2 days ago
MadCatMax I gave a very clear reasoning. You are able to hit your infinite turns combo much faster if you are able to pay the mana reliably.
Your combo costs
- for the Oboro activation
- Play a land and have at least 3 other islands in play
- Cast Time Warp for
- Total cost is
- 3 Islands + Mystic provides
- There is still required every execution of your turns loop
- You run 3 rock accelerators in a 99 card deck, and also Dark Ritual which is not effective for the loop
- Even utilizing the untap effect from Oboro on one of your own lands, the earliest you can rip this combo is turn 6 without accelerators.
- This is assuming you hit a land drop every turn for 6 turns. 29 lands, probably not.
You have colorless mana costs in Intuition Oboro Breezecaller Commandeer Force of Negation Misdirection Spellstutter Sprite Tale's End Gingerbrute Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive Fallen Shinobi Ingenious Infiltrator Mist-Syndicate Naga Mistblade Shinobi Sakashima's Student Skullsnatcher Universal Automaton Brazen Borrower Contagion Cyclonic Rift Snuff Out Submerge Whiplash Trap Back to Basics Chains of Mephistopheles Cursed Totem Grafdigger's Cage Scroll Rack Temporal Manipulation Temporal Mastery Temporal Trespass Time Warp Demonic Tutor Diabolic Intent Hope of Ghirapur and Snapcaster Mage. That's 35 cards, literally exactly half of your non-land cards. Of course you can argue that a handful of these have alternate costs that don't include colorless mana, such as the pitch-to-play and some of the ninjutsu, which removes 10 cards from the "uses colorless mana" list. Either way, a quarter of the actual cards you draw and a third of the non-land cards you draw use colorless mana, and the alternate cost cards you will undoubtedly sometimes pay full price for when games go long and resources are available. I didn't even count your two burn cards.
I know you're trying to be clever by cutting slots, and I know this deck doesn't have the explosive plays of hitting Sol ring into mana rocks. Don't try to reinvent the wheel and get clever by cutting mana positive rocks in a deck that uses mana.
My comment is more directed at your friend, who I wrote a very elaborate response to as for inclusions for Sensei's Top in his Doomsday list, and how being reliant on your commander and creatures entirely for card advantage as well as pile cracking is setting him up for failure. Rather than respond, he chose to delete and block me. These decks have a bigger overall problem of being decent competitive decks against most match ups, but absolutely entirely worthless against certain match ups that completely hose the strategy because of how reliant on the commander these decks are. Nevermore on your commander either causes you to scoop or pray for amazing top deck. Repeated Pyroclasm effects resolving cause scoops. Choosing to run Misdirection over Swan Song means if you're counting on Misdirection to stop Pyroclasm you're scooping, or if you're counting on it to stop Demonic Consultation or Flash or Tainted Pact you're scooping. Yes I know it makes a bird token for blocking, but slotting bad cards is your biggest problem.
No I'm not joining your discord. You two are clowns, enjoy brewing your mediocre deck on your own. I'll enjoy the free wins if I ever end up in a pod against someone playing one of these decks.
1 week ago
However there is potential for a mono or even deck using cards like Erebos's Intervention, Tymaret, Chosen from Death, Elspeth's Nightmare, little Ashiok, Agonizing Remorse, the Cage, and/or Kunoros, Hound of Athreos to put a significant hurting on an opponent's graveyard interaction
1 week ago
I'm looking to build a deck that can effectively shut down any & all graveyard interactions. I thoroughly dislike the tactic & wish to shut it down, pronto! What cards are best to achieve this goal?
I was running a few copies of Grafdigger's Cage in my decks. But this dosen't stop my opponent's from bringing creatures/spells back from their graveyards. Any suggestions? Or is it not possible to completely lock out graveyard interactions in current Standard?
1 week ago
Hey man! Welcome to magic. I have a few suggestions... feel free to ignore any/all of them.
Dorks are one mana creatures that tap for mana. A lot of the time people don't like them, because before you play with them you don't realize how absurdly powerful they are; people are wrong. I highly suggest running at least a handful of these guys, like Llanowar Elves, Elves of Deep Shadow, Birds of Paradise, Deathrite Shaman, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic... In general, ramping turn one is REALLY strong, since it lets you play a turn ahead of everyone else. Though they aren't one mana, you could also consider some cards like Priest of Titania or (if you're rich) Bloom Tender, which are also pretty strong.
Slate of Ancestry is an interesting card to consider. You're running a lot of creatures, so I think in general using Slate of Ancestry will be card-positive for you. Note also that if you discard a creature card with it, Meren of Clan Nel Toth can just get it back for you.
Plaguecrafter: This guy is messed up, and he gets you an experience counter from sac-ing himself. Also, once you're at 3 exp, you can just keep recurring him.
Abrupt Decay/Assassin's Trophy: Personally, I like Abrupt Decay more since I play in a meta with a lot of counterspells and low-to-the-ground decks, but both are good. Being able to kill any card type is generally pretty powerful.
If you're in a counter-heavy meta, Veil of Summer is an absurd card.
Finally, running Ancient Tomb is worth considering. It's pricy, but the price is lower these days than it has been in a while; the ramp it offers is really, really good.
Cards I'd consider cutting:
Eldrazi Monument: Your experience may be different from mine, but I feel like this card is probably a win-more type thing in that it's only really good if you're already winning the game. You're probably better off just running card draw by something like Phyrexian Arena or Slate of Ancestry.
A few lands: If you run the dorks mentioned in (1), generally people don't play more than 33 lands.
Black Sun's Zenith: Like Butcher of Malakir, I think you have plenty of ways to make your opponents lose creatures already. You're probably better off running more universal removal, like Windgrace's Judgment.
Also, since you're a new player, I'd like to point out edhrec.com is an excellent resource I use a lot. You should check it out if you haven't already.
2 weeks ago
dingusdingo omg finally someone with a brain, you actually get how trash this is vs Fish. I started to use the PolyTyrant builds but hated it's no-creature requirement, now I am on a list that is so anti-hulk it runs Torpor Orb and Grafdigger's Cage, Sorcerous Spyglass, Phyrexian Revoker and Pithing Needle for my metagame xD
Otherwise, though ngl even that list sucks, I also agree with AlwaysSleepy about how bad this is against hulk.
Btw, when is this thing gonna get updates?
3 weeks ago
I know it has been a while since you got a reply.. so i'll give it a shot.
You have some good ideas about Dosan the Falling Leaf, City of Solitude and Defense Grid. But those cards can work in a way that lets opponents win. On top of that this deck does not need those kind of protection. Example: Someone tries to disrupt your dredge combo, then just toss another land (or sacrifice a land through Safekeeper or Squandered Resources) and get a draw trigger on the stack. Bottom line is that this deck has no need of such protection and can play other, more useful cards, instead.
Grafdigger's Cage Does not really stop Thassa's Oracle ETB ability. Players will hard cast Oracle in response to Cage being on the board instead of getting Oracle from Hulk. Although Torpor Orb does a better job than Grafdigger's Cage in stopping ETB triggers.
3 weeks ago
Looks sweet ColdBlanket. I feel like two Leyline of the Voids is a little counterintuitive since you'd usually wanna run a full playset. Why not just run another 2 Grafdigger's Cage or maybe Ashiok, Dream Render? Just some thoughts. Otherwise, love the list.