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Grafdigger's Cage Discussion
1 month ago
1 month ago
Those are some really good ones you can add in. For the rest, if you'd want to play this at FNM and other tournaments, see what you're worst matches are and find others that counter those decks.
2 months ago
Idk how hard you mill opponents, but if u do this might be funny (also I'm biast hihi xd) Vulturous Zombie .
3 months ago
3 months ago
3 months ago
I have my own substantially different take on the same concept.
I've won on turn 3 with it but that requires getting more than a little lucky. Turn 4 is fairly common.
Out of curiosity does Grafdigger's Cage in your sideboard actually serve some purpose? Given that it completely shuts down the functionality of Citadel itself I'm struggling to see how that would work.
4 months ago
Hey, TheoryCrafter, thanks for the comment! First and foremost, I must say that, due to the pandemic, I got very little chance to hang out with my friends to play EDH with, BUT I've continued to follow releases and sets regardless. I came up with an extended update list that I wish I'll be able to share on here too as soon as possible. With this in mind, I'll go onto your comment. I tried to check your deck, but it seems to be private: let me know where to find it and I'll gladly check it out!
Regarding adding cards that give me value when my opponents discard, I tried to avoid them due to the fact that in my pod there is already a Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder wheel/discard deck, so I tried to now follow the same path. Regardless, I have thought about introducing cards like Windfall and Whispering Madness as incremental advantage, but even then, I probably won't include cards like Liliana's Caress .
Graveyard exile effects like Planar Void / Leyline of the Void really mess up my gameplan, since the deck's main wincon relies on using all possible X/X creatures like Consuming Aberration that count cards or creatures in opponent's graveyards (see this deck's description section "The Big Bois"): if graveyards are empty, those creatures won't mill at all. In order to contrast graveyard decks, such that I can mill them without helping them out, I instead included (or will include) cards like Grafdigger's Cage , Weathered Runestone and Silent Gravestone : in this way, graveyards can be full, but nobody will be able to take advantage of it, apart from me.
Evasion is a mild subtheme I will try to add, but instead of Aqueous Form , I was thinking of something more enduring like Thassa, God of the Sea or Dauthi Embrace . It's a good idea, sometimes I face decks with cards that reshuffle graveyards, so being able to knock them out in another way is a good option to have.
As for Ruin Crab and Hedron Crab , I don't really think they mill enough to be relevant during the course of the game, so I left them out. Moreover, I don't run enough fetch-like lands as of now, so I won't really get such an advantage from running those two anyways.
In the update list I mentioned at the start, Fleet Swallower will get swapped out for Maddening Cacophony : it's a good card, can be cats a turn earlier with respect to Swallower and doesn't need haste. The combos are the same as before, so that's a good funcitonal update.
As for tutors, my playgroup banned them. If I were to run some, I would run many other mana-cheaper tutors like Grim Tutor . Regarding commander rules, I have to tell you that, unfortunately, wish effects like the second choice of Mastermind's Acquisition don't work: this is due to the fact that "from outside of the game" really means "from your Sideboard", but in EDH there is no Sideboard. I know, no fun allowed, at least according to WotC.
I'll go onto update the description of this page once I'll get all the new cards I need.
4 months ago
Kinnan is my cEDH deck. So I’ll divulge lots of the strategies. You’ll want to stop the infinite mana, but there’s a lot of ways that it does infinite mana. Mainly, just 2 categories. Storm off with Tidespout Tyrant or Isochron Scepter / Lithoform Engine with Dramatic Reversal and mana positive mana rocks or do infinite untaps with Freed from the Real , Pemmin's Aura or Basalt Monolith . With the introduction out of the way, let’s talk interaction. The best would be Null Rod type effects. You can’t run Cursed Totem sadly given your commander. Cheap enchantment or artifact removal is also good. Heartwood Storyteller prevents them from storming off easily. So would Damping Sphere . Grafdigger's Cage could work. Although it is narrow, if the only infinite mana outlet they have is Kinnan, they won’t be able to use his ability. It also stops Chord, Finale, and Green Sun’s Zenith.