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22 hours ago
I'm not sure about cards that specifically disallow "wishing" in cards from outside of the game, but typically wish decks are a bit slower. For that reason, cheap counterspells ( Spell Pierce , Force of Negation , Mystical Dispute , Negate , Dovin's Veto , Spell Snare , etc) are often effective.
Alternatively, just go faster!
What are his actual win conditions? Depending on your colors, there's tons of good removal in modern to hit creatures. Fatal Push , Bloodchief's Thirst , Heartless Act , even cheap things like Doom Blade or Go for the Throat if you want budget options. Path to Exile , Oust , Condemn , and of course sweepers like Wrath of God , Damnation , Supreme Verdict , Extinction Event , etc
It really depends on what his deck is specifically trying to do, and also what kind of deck you'd like to play.
1 week ago
Pretty plain Esper Control list. Most of your cards are pretty low in power though.
Solve the Equation , The Birth of Meletis , Professor Onyx , Archmage Emeritus , even ECD (depending on the matchup) are all pretty slow. Esper lists in Standard right now have a lot of value packed into them. Most of them use Yorion, Sky Nomad as a companion and love to blink things like Omen of the Sea , Treacherous Blessing , ECD, and Sad Robot . Skyclave Apparition is usually pretty good too, as it removes things much earlier than other exile effects.
Speaking of removal, let's work on that. Murderous Rider is not a good rate anymore. Bloodchief's Thirst , Heartless Act , or Eliminate are the removal of choice usually, and Shadows' Verdict the sweeper.
With Strixhaven coming, I expect Elite Spellbinder to be a good addition to control. It blocks well and disrupts your opponent's curve.
In the sideboard, with the prevalence of control, 4x Mystical Dispute is a necessity. You'll also want something for the mono-red aggro matchup, probably more Shadows' Verdict s. Against mono-white aggro, you want Shadow's Verdicts and maybe some Ravenform . Shark Typhoon is also good in the control matchup (hint: you'll almost never cast it, but cycling can't be countered and gives you a card back). Disdainful Stroke should also add up to 4x between mainboard and sideboard, as the control deck of choice at the moment loves to run big spells. Unfortunately, this deck will fold to Dimir Rogues and I can't think of a sideboard plan that would change that. Their fish tactics are just too good against dedicated control decks.
1 week ago
Idk who this Willy is, but no you.
This deck is a really a mono black build that you happen to run blue for Diregraf Captain . The way I see it you can either keep with the build you're going for, which to me seems like mono black, or you can go a much different dimir amass path with cards like Vizier of the Scorpion , Gleaming Overseer , Lazotep Plating ,
Let's assume you do mono black, then let's start with creatures. Brain Gorgers and Stromgald Crusader are garbage, Tomebound Lich is mostly used in dedicated reanimator decks, and Extremely Slow Zombie is a card from a joke set, so take those all out, along with Diregraf Captain . That's 11 out. Add 2 Murderous Rider , 3 Liliana's Reaver , 2 Undead Augur , 3 Diregraf Ghoul .
For noncreature spells, take out Negate . The best mono black removal is probably Walk the Plank . So take out Go for the Throat and Ultimate Price for 3. Gravepurge and Return from Extinction can be replaced with 3 Call of the Death-Dweller . Take out Bontu's Monument for another copy of Liliana, Untouched By Death or vise-versa. Take out Necromancer's Stockpile , I just don't think it's that good. For a five drop $1-2 slot, Open the Graves is better than Call to the Grave .
1 week ago
Quench is the best 2 mana option, but Essence Scatter and Negate can be used in the sideboard. Disallow is by far the best 3 mana option, with Ionize after it, unless you have no card draw or top deck manipulation, in which case you should look at Sinister Sabotage and Dissolve
1 week ago
the best option at 2 mana is Quench , but you can definitely use Essence Scatter and Negate in the sideboard. Disallow is by far the best 3 mana option. Ionize follows right behind it imo, unless you don't have any card draw or top deck manipulation in the deck in which case you may want to look at Sinister Sabotage and Dissolve . Absorb would be on the bottom of my list unless you're playing against aggro and burn.
Mtg_Mega_Nerds: you can use the gatherer to check a cards legality.
3 weeks ago
The deck flaws itself by it's inability to stop certain things at critical times, even something as simple as tapping all my creatures or just one being removed for even a kill on one person, it also seems to only just fall short sometimes. For that regard it feels flimsy and honestly have no idea what is wrong with the deck. It could also be a piloting issue but I have been using UR-Dragon for quite a few years so I'm not sure on that. I'm thinking of adding along the lines of 2 countermagic spells just so I have that extra protection and/or stuff to get cards back.
I felt Scion works differently to Ur, and in regards a much more competitive variant of a dragon deck, I see it as dragon-combo personally. Tutoring for more dragons sounds good, but reducing them might prove a problem as I seem to have a habit of running out of luck drawing into more dragons than I actually need, sometimes just not seeing them at all. I already run heroic intervention but the considered cards I have been thinking over are -
The problem is finding /what/ to take out. I can take out removal for removal fine, but the recursion struggles to have a place. Akroma's Will will be going out though, I have barely used it when I have seen it which is disappointing really.
1 month ago
1 month ago
@TriusMalarky While Twin can force a land to get tapped on turn 3 to prevent 3 mana spells from getting cast you do need to remember doing so leaves the combo piece open to sorcery speed removal such as a Dreadbore , Flame Slash or Declaration in Stone in the first game and in the second and third game it allows cards like Torpor Orb or Blind Obedience to be played - tapping all out to put the combo piece down means you won't have counter-mana up to stop these effects from hitting the board and often the Twin player will instead choose to cast the combo piece on the endstep of their opponent's turn incase if there is a sorcery-speed threat such as T-orb that needs to be countered on their opponent's turn instead. The Twin player will (in most cases) only choose to preemptively tap down the land if they know their opponent is mana-screwed, if they don't have a counterspell in hand or if they know their opponent is running Twin to further stall the opponent's combo. With that said I wouldn't entirely discount 3 mana answers that can be made uncounterable by Cavern of Souls or Aether Vial or 3 mana spells that completely disable the deck beyond repair such as Unmoored Ego if they resolve.
I also think it would be more problematic for Twin decks to also splash in a third color for enchantment removal. One aspect that made Twin decks so oppressive was a solid portion of them would include copies of Blood Moon in the mainboard in order for it to be more difficult for their opponents to interact with their combo. Dedicating to a third color to run Dovin's Veto is going to come with not being able to run Blood Moon while being easier for the Twin deck to also get disrupted by an opponent's potential Blood Moon as well. On the other hand, Blood Moon has also been made weaker in the meta as Cleansing Wildfire and Force of Vigor make effective get out of jail free cards from sideboard.
Plus, I think you're undervaluing some cards in your assessment. Back when Twin was around the only one-mana spells that could remove an endstep flashed-in Deceiver Exarch was Path to Exile , Rending Volley , Vendetta and the ever so infrequent Skred and Lightning Axe and out of those, the only cards that were mainboard worthy was Path to Exile and Skred (which only worked if you were running a niche deck and you were going first with extra technicalities). Fatal Push has had a huge impact on the format being loads better than Vendetta which gives many more decks greater flexibility when holding removal mana up especially in game 1 given how playable it is in the mainboard. There's also Veil of Summer which also deserves mention and while you may see it as a simple upgrade to Autumn's Veil , fundamentally it's not. In the event I toss a Path to Exile or Fatal Push at a Pestermite and the Twin player responds with a Dispel , or as you suggested a Dovin's Veto , if I play an Autumn's Veil (which would effectively counter either counterspell), it would be a 2-for-2 trade. I lose the kill spell and veil to remove the Twin player's combo piece and counterspell. This lukewarm outcome is the reason why Autumn's Veil saw none if any modern play as Silence typically did its job better enough to warrant a splash in white over it in most cases if such an effect was absolutely needed in sideboard. Veil of Summer surpasses both because it has a built in cantrip that turns the interaction into a 1-for-2 trade in your favor and if the interaction happens while your opponent is trying to put a Splinter Twin on the combo piece it becomes a 1-for-3 trade in your favor. Veil of Summer 's value is by no means merely replacing Autumn's Veil or Silence 's role in the format, but more accurately it's replacing the clunkier Krosan Grip and Sudden Death that were typically used against the Twin-combo instead which makes it its own unique answer against the combo in my opinion.
Two more cards that I think also deserve further assessment is Sinister Concoction and Dovin's Veto . To say Dovin's Veto is just an upgrade to Negate I think is an understatement. "This spell can't be countered" is the reason Abrupt Decay was a banger of a card at thwarting Twin's machinations and I think the fact a Dovin's Veto can stop a Splinter Twin on cast makes it good enough to be a Twin-killer too. You suggested Twin might have to go into white to run its own Dovin's Veto es and Path to Exile s but I think the fact this card can also be used against Twin may be a more compelling reason for Twin to splash green over white just to have Veil of Summer as a necessary means to put up with the combined pressure Abrupt Decay and Dovin's Veto would have in keeping Twin in check as the Veil is the only card that can universally counteract both spells. (And even so Veil of Summer isn't a 100% failsafe as it has nothing against Rending Volley .) As for Sinister Concoction , I'm not going to pretend this card sees much Modern play, but this thing is a serious contender at throwing a wrench in Twin's plans and outside of Twin it's not an unplayable removal spell either. The reason why is it works much like your explanation for why Authority of the Consuls works - you can play it turn one and your opponent has no means to remove it without splashing a third color. Now Authority of the Consuls may be the more ideal card to use over it, but if your multicolor black deck can't splash white this is your next best thing and it even has some upsides over Authority of the Consuls . Sinister Concoction may be more fragile to effects like Stifle and Tale's End or effects like Spellskite and Apostle's Blessing , but it makes up for it when enchantment removal is thrown at it, as you can crack it in response to dumpster one of your opponent's creatures, in this case most likely a combo piece, while also rendering the enchantment removal as a waste in the process. This in turn is going to make the Twin player more cautious about playing their combo pieces before drawing into enchantment removal which can potentially delay the Twin player's progress harder than an Authority of the Consuls otherwise would. And if the Twin player doesn't have an answer, you'll always crack the Sinister Concoction in response to whatever creature they'll try to enchant with Splinter Twin to inflict the most damage. Even if you're playing on the draw or you draw into the card later, much like Authority of the Consuls , Sinister Concoction also bypasses quite a couple of Twin's favorite counterspells too such as Dispel , Spell Snare and Remand which is why I think the spell has much merit as yet another Twin-hate specific sideboard card that just wasn’t available to be utilized before in the past.
Lastly, the list I put up above was something I compiled over a quick gatherer search. I wouldn’t be surprised if I missed a few cards that may be just as worthy of discussion on countering Twin as well.