Negate

Instant

Counter target noncreature spell.

Discussion (51)

AlwaysSleepy on Consult Scepter Thrasios

1 day ago

tophe6311

I think it'd be dependent on the meta and what you need at that point. Cards I would look at could be Drown in the Loch, Negate, Priest of Titania, Toxic Deluge, and Fellwar Stone.

All of the listed cards though are quite good and I would make a decision based on which cards are performing best and which are not performing as well as you need. Personally I think just in the blind it could be Negate.

multimedia on Zombie Deck 1.1

2 weeks ago

Hey, nice start, welcome to Commander and TappedOut :)

You can't play 2x Plague Wight in a Commander deck. Can only play 1x of every card except basic lands. The Scarab God is a powerful card as Commander General and at $30 it's not a budget card so it's great that you have it to make your first deck with.

Commander's Quarters has good overall ideas for decks, but best to not use the manabases they provide as good examples of manabases. Quarters makes budget decks, but it's deceiving because the manabases that they use are terrible since they don't allocate any of the budget for lands. Manabases are an afterthought in decks Quarters makes which is not good when the majority of people that view their content are new players who need guidance in how to best play Commander on a budget. Manabases are just as important in Commander then what creatures or other spells you play because you can't cast those cards if you don't have the right mana.

29x basic lands is fine for a one color deck, but when you're playing a second color you need more dual lands that make both colors that way you don't get color screwed having only one color of lands, but cards in your hand are the other color. As you play more Commander you will see that the majority of expense of a deck comes from the manabase because good lands in Magic are damn expensive. Most lands are expensive price, but there's still budget lands that are good such as Command Tower which is $1 and is one of the best, if not the best land, for multicolored decks in Commander.

Lands to consider adding:

• Command Tower
• Sunken Hollow
• Fetid Pools
• Tainted Isle
• Choked Estuary
• Darkwater Catacombs
• Esper Panorama
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• Dimir Aqueduct
• Temple of Deceit
• Evolving Wilds

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Other budget cards to consider adding (ordered by importance/price lowest ($1 or less) to highest ($3)):

• Diregraf Captain
• Lord of the Accursed
• Undead Augur
• Dreadhorde Invasion
• Mausoleum Secrets
• Carrion Feeder
• Dark Ritual
• Countersquall
• Wonder
• Gleaming Overseer
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• Rooftop Storm
• Dimir Signet
• Death Baron
• Cemetery Reaper
• Midnight Reaper
• Graveborn Muse
• Negate
• Dread Wanderer
• Buried Alive
• Fleshbag Marauder
• Ransack the Lab
• Final Parting
• Defile
• Mutilate

Other than Scarab God you only need a few budget blue Zombies and a few other budget blue cards, you don't need very much blue because the majority of Zombies are all black. Budget blue Zombies that are worth including are Diregraf Captain and Gleaming Overseer, that's it. Other budget blue cards that are worth including are Rooftop Storm, Countersquall, Negate and Wonder.

Because of the land situation not being ideal then consider cutting all cards with double blue mana costs? Cards with single blue and double black are fine, but double blue is too difficult to make with so many Swamps. Cards such as Pondering Mage, Curse of the Swine, Didn't Say Please could be cut.

Lords help to make your Zombies bigger by increasing their power/toughness (anthem) or giving them all other abilities. The four budget Lords (Captain, Accursed, Baron and Cemetery) are a good place to start to make upgrades. Captain and Lord are each $1 or less making them excellent first upgrades on a budget. Captain, Undead and Midnight are Zombies who give you value when your Zombies die and your Zombies are going to die especially from board wipes.

Buried, Ransack and Parting help to put creatures into your graveyard to use Scarab's activated ability with. Buried and Parting can tutor for and put Wonder into your graveyard which can be a win condition with Zombies giving them all flying. Parting can do both for Wonder, putting it into your graveyard and tutoring for an Island if you need it to activate it.

I offer more advice. Good luck with your deck.

dingusdingo on Best Counterspells in Commander?

2 weeks ago

Blue

Your very top tier auto-include for lists is going to look like

• Force of Will "free"
• Pact of Negation "free"
• Swan Song cheap to cast and wide in restrictions
• Mana Drain color heavy but ramps the following turn
• Mental Misstep "free"
• Delay not color heavy and hits any spell, delaying for 3 turns is the same as solving it in very fast competitive EDH

Your situational includes are going to look like

• Force of Negation This can't protect your own combos, so it isn't wanted in every list. This is ran in QUITE A FEW lists though, always worth a consider.
• Counterspell Usually seen in mono or dual color decks as the cost can be hard in some 4 or 5 color shells
• Dispel Sometimes cut for a more general counter
• Negate
• Muddle the Mixture Limited in scope and color heavy but this is more often slotted as a hard-to-counter tutor with a counterspell as icing on the top
• Narset's Reversal this card is pretty nice. While it does see a lot of play, it definitely isn't an autoinclude yet by any means.
• Spell Pierce Before you mock this card, consider how well it catches ultra fast mana rocks and tutors. Noncreature is very wide, and it stops Sol Ring Mana Crypt Mox Diamond Mox Opal Chrome Mox Mox Amber Mana Vault Vampiric Tutor Imperial Seal Mystical Tutor Worldly Tutor Gamble Dark Ritual and SO MUCH MORE. Even for a tempo card, you're still going to catch weird stuff like someone's Rhystic Study because they tapped out to pay for it. Its very strong against blistering fast combo decks, which is why it sees competitive play.

Other blue stuff is usually just too expensive. Paying over 2 mana for a counterspell just doesn't cut it when there are so many threats for so cheap. Don't pay more than 2 for a counterspell unless it does something wild on top. Counterspells with fewer restrictions on what it can counter are going to be better.

Other Colors

This is where it gets saucy boys

• Red Elemental Blast Pyroblast are VERY good. In a pod, there is almost definitely blue at the table. Every single red deck can slot these for commander without fear. Do note that REB works against any spell that includes blue (multicolor), while pyro only works against spells that are ONLY blue (monocolor).
• Fork Reverberate (Twincast) these allow you to copy a counterspell to create a counterspell. More access for red to counterspells. They also conveniently work very well against tutors, ramp, big draw spells, and extra turn spells.
• Guttural Response Weird hybrid color and somewhat restricted but still a good include in most RG decks.
• Burnout a bit worse then the elemental blasts as it costs 2 mana and it is limited. The cantrip is nice though
• Mana Tithe not that good in EDH but give it a whirl I guess
• Lapse of Certainty costing 3 hurts, but this is more a tempo card than anything.
• Dash Hopes Don't play this card in EDH lol
• Withering Boon on the chunkier end at 2 CMC, but in a color that doesn't get much of this. The 3 life and the restriction hurt, but definitely EDH playable. Every deck runs a commander, 99% of which are creatures
• Imp's Mischief can counter a spell by having it target Mischief, as can Misdirection Shunt Swerve and Ricochet Trap.
• Veil of Summer 1 mana green Cryptic Command
• Autumn's Veil Counterspell + silence against UB
• Bind I bet you didn't even know this card existed. Cantrips. GOOD IN THE YISAN MIRROR MATCH?
• Avoid Fate Weird protection oriented counterspell
• Nether Void Mostly ran in stax builds, brutal lockout card
• Planar Chaos One of my new favorite cards. Brutal with recursion like Hall of Heliod's Generosity. Play when you're ahead
• Deathgrip Lifeforce These are based if you have any method of color shifting. Realistically, you could run Lifeforce in Momir Hackball. These cards can cause scoops on casual tables lol.
• Vexing Shusher can render counterspells useless. Similarly, Dosan the Falling Leaf Grand Abolisher Prowling Serpopard Gaea's Herald can all protect against counterspells. Far more marginal but still worthwhile are Hall of Gemstone and Ritual of Subdual for turning off counterspells for opponents.

gato91 on izzet prowess BURN

2 weeks ago

Hi, in your image of the deck it's a Bedlam Reveler but you don't have it in your list, in a prowess deck it's useful to use 1-2 copies to do a hand refill. Another suggestion in the main list it's to include Dig Through Time or Treasure Cruise, I prefer the Dig over Treasure, because can search deeper the 2 sparks or threats you need to finish the game and it's instant speed.

For your side I suggest the following cards, but remember that you must adapt it according with the metagame of where you play:

• 2 Abrade - Can be used to hit creatures and artifacts.
• 2 Aether Gust - can buy you enough time to kill you opponent.
• 2 Dive Down - protect you creatures and count for prowess
• 2 Sorcerous Spyglass - Can Give you information and turn off walkers and troublesome abilities.
• 2 Tormod's Crypt - Graveyard hate always important, normally it's better use Grafdigger's Cage but turns off the Arcanist.
• 2 Lava Coil - Removal that exile
• 2 Mystical Dispute - Cheap counter vs control
• 1 Negate - Cheap counter vs heavy non-creature spell decks.

smackjack on Best Counterspells in Commander?

3 weeks ago

Wouldnt say Dovin's Veto is better than Counterspell but it certainly is better than Negate :). Misdirection is another free situational counterspell that is really good at countering removal :)

GeminiSpartanX on Best Counterspells in Commander?

3 weeks ago

Hello all!

I'm simply asking which are the best counterspells available in EDH. I have a UW somewhat-controlling deck, and I want to make sure the last few counterspell slots I have (roughly 12 or so in total) are better than other possible options. I know that Force of Will, Force of Negation, and Mana Drain are the best, followed closely by Pact of Negation, the OG- Counterspell, Cryptic Command, and then possibly Negate or Dovin's Veto. My question is which ones do you choose after those? Here are some that I've run before:

Swan Song

Dispel

Spell Pierce

Arcane Denial

Archmage's Charm

Muddle the Mixture

Delay

Deprive -(when you also run Mystic Sanctuary)

Disdainful Stroke

Stubborn Denial

Render Silent

Disallow

Which of these would make the cut in a deck that cared both about the overall quality of the counter as well as the efficiency (cmc) of the counter? Are there any more that I've missed that are worth mentioning? Please let me know which ones (4-5) you would use after the initial 8 that I mentioned! (P.S.- I know we're talking about blue counterspells here, so please be kind even if it's the type of magic that you don't like).

Pray_for_Snow on Uro Commander

3 weeks ago

I'm going to sort my recommendations by type for now since the deck is still below 100 cards; once we get to a full deck list, I'll come back and suggest some upgrades if you still want some help.

Artifacts

Mana Rocks

The Great Henge is very easy to cast once you have Uro on the board, and continues to draw you cards/gain life for you as play more creatures.

Sol Ring is a classic card in every commander deck, unless your playgroup bans it.

Simic Signet is a cheap mana rock that helps you use any colorless lands you have to make some colored mana.

Arcane Signet gives you cheap mana in either of your colors.

Thought Vessel for the increased maximum hand size; you'll probably end up with more than seven cards in hand if you can use Uro more than once in a single turn.

Utility Artifacts

Altar of Dementia for milling out yourself or your opponent. You can use the stack to sacrifice Uro if you cast him from the command zone.

Panharmonicon will double your Uro triggers when it enters the battlefield, plus a few of your other creatures or artifacts like Springbloom Druid.

Crystal Shard will let you re-use your enter-the-battlefield triggers on your creatures

Blackblade Reforged will help you deal lethal damage once you get your ramping done.

Lightning Greaves protects Uro or other creatures you want to keep around while also hasting them.

Creatures

Mana Dorks and Rampers

Sakura-Tribe Elder will ramp you and end up in your graveyard at the same time.

Arbor Elf will untap a land you need instead of adding {G}, which is better if you're playing with nonbasic Forest cards.

Wood Elves gets you a Forest from your library, and can even get a non-basic one. You can use it to chump-block someone later on as well to add another card to your graveyard.

Llanowar Elves and Elvish Mystic are the same card but still useful to help ramp.

Birds of Paradise is a classic commander card and can help you block flying creatures when you don't need it anymore.

Graveyard Dudes

Hedron Crab mills as you ramp, and you can choose to mill yourself if you're trying to win that way.

Satyr Wayfinder mills you while also grabbing a land card to put into your hand.

Eternal Witness brings back a card you want from your graveyard.

Golgari Grave-Troll will help mill you while also being a rather tough blocker/beater thanks to its regenerate ability.

World Shaper will mill you and also get back lands you milled when it dies.

Laboratory Maniac will secure you a win if you're milling yourself enough.

Misthollow Griffin can be cast from exile, allowing you to use it to cast Uro with escape repeatedly, and it will even block flying creatures for you.

Genesis helps you recycle creatures as long as it stays in the graveyard.

Good Synergy and Other Additions

Tatyova, Benthic Druid makes your ramp spells (and Uro) better.

Rampaging Baloths gives you tokens for land drops, helpful for trying to close a game with combat damage.

Roil Elemental steals creatures as you play lands.

Reclamation Sage hits dangerous artifacts/enchantments you don't want around.

Enchantments

Auras

Bear Umbra protects a key creature while also untapping all your lands.

Song of the Dryads and Imprisoned in the Moon are both excellent at removing a dangerous threat.

Other Enchantments

Zendikar Resurgent is excellent for this deck for the extra mana and the card draw.

Elemental Bond will draw you cards for your big creatures.

Crop Sigil will mill you when you want to mill, and get back something important.

Retreat to Coralhelm helps you scry cards or tap/untap creatures for playing lands. If you have a way to mill exactly one card, you can mill your top card after scrying it if you want it in your graveyard.

Wilderness Reclamation untaps your lands for later use, especially useful if you want to leave mana untapped during your opponents' turns.

Instants and Sorceries

Counterspells and Removal

Cyclonic Rift is your best board wipe.

Beast Within is your best single-target removal.

Counterspell, Swan Song, and Negate are good counterspells to leave open.

Voidslime is great and is a very useful and board tool for stopping combos.

Other Useful Spells

Life from the Loam gets back lands from your graveyard, and mills you with Dredge.

Windfall hopefully refills your hand and can disrupt your opponents.

Cultivate and Kodama's Reach ramp you. So does Circuitous Route.

Finale of Devastation is a win condition, tutor, and reanimation spell all in one.

Lands

Utility Lands

Alchemist's Refuge gives you flash on all your spells.

Reliquary Tower fixes any issues you might have with drawing too many cards at once.

Field of the Dead gives you tokens to block with, and is extremely easy to activate in this deck.

Arch of Orazca draws you cards with extra mana.

Blighted Woodland ramps you up.

Mana Fixers

Command Tower is a staple for a reason. The reason is that it is good. Play it.

Breeding Pool helps fix your mana and is a Forest card for your ramp spells.

Simic Growth Chamber fixes your mana and bounces back a land for any Landfall triggers you might want to reuse.

Flooded Grove fixes your mana.

Waterlogged Grove fixes mana, draws you a card, and ends up in the graveyard when you don't need it anymore.

Simic Guildgate is a gate that can be fetched out with Circuitous Route.

I left out some big money cards, since those can be upgrades for later. I didn't check if these additions would put you over 100 cards, but you can throw in anything else afterwards and just try out whatever seems fun.

multimedia on [Primer] Yarok, The Value Engine

3 weeks ago

Hey, good version of Yarok.

Yarok + Shrieking Drake + Cloud of Faeries + fours lands (two of them have to make blue mana) equals infinite mana and infinite casts of Drake and Cloud. Yarok gives Drake two bounce triggers which are used to bounce Drake and Cloud. Yarok also gives Cloud two triggers which lets you untap four lands. You want four lands because it costs three mana to cast Drake and Cloud netting you one mana each iteration of the combo which equals infinite mana. Tap four lands make four mana, cast Cloud untap two lands, second Cloud trigger untaps another two lands, cast Drake bounce Cloud, second Drake trigger bounce Drake, repeat.

With infinite casts of Drake and Cloud then Aetherflux Reservoir is a win condition with this combo. When you achieve this combo just announce you have 20,000 mana and then with infinite mana you can stop bouncing Cloud with Drake and instead bounce another creature such as Coiling Oracle or Risen Reef. These creatures let you put all nonland cards from your library into your hand and all the lands from your library onto the battlefield which could equal 60+ landfall triggers. Easier with Oracle or Reef just trigger them until you find Aetherflux Reservoir and Heroic Intervention/Negate for protection to win.

Elvish Visionary, Fblthp, the Lost, etc. any creature who draws when it ETB, could replace Oracle or Reef to draw into your library until you find Reservoir and Intervention/Negate. Peregrine Drake can replace Cloud of Faeries in the combo since Peregrine gets two triggers from Yarok. Peregrine is also an infinite mana combo with Deadeye Navigator who's already in your deck.

Eternal Witness is great with Yarok. Recurring any two cards is very good.

Good luck with your deck.