Wheel of Misfortune

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Wheel of Misfortune

Sorcery

Each player secretly chooses a number 0 or greater, then all players reveal those numbers simultaneously and determine the highest and lowest numbers revealed this way. Wheel of Misfortune deals damage equal to the highest number to each player who chose that number. Each player who didn't choose the lowest number discards their hand, then draws seven cards.

Jett2112 on Grixis Spellbook cEDH Refined

3 weeks ago

For redundancy, complete the playset of Forks by adding Twincast. You could add a combo potential by running Burning Inquiry with your Underworld Breach and Storm-Kiln Artist. It looks like you need to fix your land base to work with Tainted Pact. In my experience Wheel of Misfortune and Primal Amulet  Flip are overrated, consider taking them out to lower the mana curve. Otherworldly Gaze is a cool pick, I might try that in my Kess deck Pox Diamond.

kirbysan on [Primer] Helming the Host of Heaven *Update*

1 month ago

Guerric

Buddies cancelled so I played 3 pub games instead:

Opponents: Esix, Fractal Bloom, Captain N'ghathrod, Sigarda, Host of Herons

Starting hand: Emeria, The Sky Ruin, Plains, Plains, Path to Exile, Angelic Page, Archangel of Tithes, Sanctuary Warden

As we played through the game it became clear that Esix was the big threat. The board was wiped twice, once with N'ghathrod's Hex and a second time with Sigarda's Day of Judgment. Archangel of Tithes helped get a few early attacks in against Esix as they usually tapped out to play some bigger spells.

I was able to keep Esix in check a few times by using Path to Exile on their commander when they were about to pop off. I also used Oblation again on Esix when they cast a Pest Infestation destroying my Crucible of Worlds and Vanquisher's Banner but netting 12 pests. Finally, I had a Kabira Takedown  Flip but only 2 creatures on the field so it couldn't deal with anything on Esix's board so I used it on Sigarda's Soul Warden.

At the final turn I had Sanctuary Warden equipped to Sword of Feast and Famine, Righteous Valkyrie and Angelic Field Marshal. In my hand I had Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Emeria Shepherd, Sword of Hearth and Home and a Seraph Sanctuary. Giada had been removed 3 times this game so she cost 8. Esix was at 6 but also had a Sublime Epiphany with open mana and a Craterhoof Behemoth in hand with 19 creatures, mostly 1/1 tokens on board.

As I'm writing this I realized I had the answer but didn't realize it at the time. If I had casted Sword of Hearth and Home Esix would have countered it and bounced my Sanctuary Warden forcing it out of their hand. I could then equip the Sword of Feast and Famine to another angel and swung for lethal since they had no flying blockers. I could have also moved to equip Sword of Feast and Famine to another angel which they could've countered once, but I had open mana to do it again. Despite losing this round let's count it as a win due to my misplay.

Opponents: Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools, Kraum, Ludevic's Opus, Captain N'ghathrod, Sigarda, Host of Herons

Starting hand: Windswept Heath, Sol Ring, Pearl Medallion, Angel of Vitality, Mangara, the Diplomat, Soul Warden

Perhaps this was a risky hand to keep but with the Sol Ring and Pearl Medallion I could literally play everything in my hand if not disrupted so I kept it.

Kraum also kept a risky hand but it paid off for them in the short term. They cast a Show and Tell which let me only drop Angel of Vitality but they dropped an Omniscience and proceeded to play out their hand giving themselves an immense board state on turn 3.

Kraum made a serious misplay here as they used a Cyclonic Rift on my Sol Ring and a bounce spell that returned all creatures with power less than 5. This was supposed to wipe the board but Angel of Vitality was a 5/5. They followed this up with a Wheel of Misfortune paying 35 life expecting us to bet high life totals so they wouldn't get the wheel. Unfortunately for them we bid pretty low numbers and Kraum took the full 35. With no flying blockers on board they were dead next turn.

With Kraum out of the game and a fresh 7 card hand I ended up dominating the board. Some nice synergies were using Sword of Hearth and Home on Sanctuary Warden to 2 cards a turn, one for ETB, one for swinging. Bishop of Wings with Resplendent Angel and Angelic Accord gave me double angels on my end steps. Finally, having Emeria, The Sky Ruin and 7 plains let me fill my boardstate quickly. While the game took longer I never hit another board wipe and closed it out with 64 life.

Opponents: Kykar, Wind's Fury, Atraxa, Praetors' Voice & Sigarda, Host of Herons

Starting Hand: Flooded Strand, Path of Ancestry, Soul Warden, Luminarch Ascension, Pyre of Heroes, Folk Hero, Angelic Curator

I was excited about this hand because it had 2 new cards that hadn't come up in the last couple games I played so I wanted to test it out. While it should have curved out pretty nicely, having only Folk Hero as the draw card with a single angel should've been a warning sign. My early board state included Giada, Font of Hope, Soul Warden and Luminarch Ascension. As predicted, Luminarch Ascension was able to get 3 counters on it after a single turn.

However I was hit by a board wipe early on and had to decide whether to use Luminarch's ability or recast Giada. I foolishly recast Giada only to have her removed again with Skysovereign, Consul Flagship. When Sigarda went to blow up Luminarch I produced 3 4/4 angels with 6 mana to give me some blockers. I had also drawn into The Ozolith but it was only able to add 1 counter on it.

For the rest of the game Kykar solely targeted me with their growing vehicle board state. Since Giada now cost 6 and Skysovereign was pinging for 3 every turn I couldn't waste the mana to recast her which turned off Folk Hero. I cast Angelic Curator just for a blocker since it would be hugely advantageous against vehicles but it was promptly removed with Dispatch by Kykar. I was also able to draw into a Mask of Memory but was stalled out since Kykar had Spirit token blockers, Atraxa had their commander and Sigarda also had their commander. I was the first to be knocked out and this was a definite loss. I did cast Pyre of Heroes but didn't draw into any angels until late game so it had no effect.

Archangel of Tithes is actually pretty great but probably more effective as a late game play when board states are bigger. Battlecruiser decks will typically tap out to get the edge and will not hold up mana for tax effects which will help in getting damage through.

Luminarch Ascension is a great card but also a lightning rod. In the third game it presented a threat early on and if Giada hadn't been removed twice so early it could've helped end the game. Not getting those +1/+1 counters on the angels hurt my game plan quite a lot.

The Ozolith saw play but had little impact. Again, if Giada hadn't been removed early I could've dumped all those counters onto it and preserved threats.

Pyre of Heroes also saw play but had little impact. The overall flow of the game meant I was essentially stuck. Eye of Vecna would've been more impactful here but since Kykar had such an oppressive board state I would need to play much bigger threats to make a difference.

While Giada may not always be necessary to our gameplan, not having her and being unable to cast her slows us up so much that opponents can just out ramp or out threaten us pretty quickly. Dodging an entire table's board wipes and single target removals is pretty tough and makes me consider Lightning Greaves or Swiftfoot Boots again.

marco-piatti on The Professor swearing about Yu-Gi-Oh …

2 months ago

Well i totally see why. In mtg a card like Wheel of Misfortune is considered to have a complex textbox. In yu gi oh every single card has way more line of text. The game is totally broken right now and it's a shame because it could have been (imo) super fun if they kept it simple.

The_Biking_Viking on Mono Red Mid Range CEDH

2 months ago

Think you need some more card draw. Faithless Looting Winds of Change Wheel of Fortune Wheel of Misfortune Also these could be good includes Abrade Walking Ballista Splinter Twin. Maybe some of the rituals for fast mana if that becomes an issue Pyretic Ritual Seething Song

RinceRaven on krenko

4 months ago

Alright alright so I got asked to give a bunch of suggestions so here we go. Hoo boy. Gonna try to keep most suggestions low on budget but will include the best slightly expensive cards. Should also mention I got a lot of things I know from this primer, cheers. https://deckstats.net/decks/82803/752805-competitive-krenko/en

First the draw pieces you missed: Rundvelt Hordemaster, Dark-Dweller Oracle, Skullclamp, Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner, Reforge the Soul, Conspicuous Snoop, You Find Some Prisoners. The only actual good ones you got in this draft are Idol of Oblivion and Wheel of Misfortune imo, though most are servicable.

Tutors: these beauties can find your best wincons or draw pieces or whatever else you might need most of the time. Goblin Engineer, Goblin Matron, Goblin Recruiter. And are surprisingly affordable.

Next up ramp: Mana doublers are too slow for a deck as fast as Krenko, and you don't have the card draw to support such cards in mono-red. Not really. Also with the 4 mana commander having 2 mana ramp becomes much, much more valued. Cheering Fanatic, Liquimetal Torque, Generator Servant, Wily Goblin, Infernal Plunge, Fire Diamond (Yes I know, I think it's fine here).

Haste: Giving Krenko (and his tokens) haste literally puts you a turn ahead over not having it. Crashing Drawbridge, Ashling's Prerogative (Even gives tokens haste too), Generator Servant (multipurpose? Whoa), Goblin Chieftain, Goblin Motivator, Lightning Greaves, Mass Hysteria, Thousand-Year Elixir (tad pricey but repeatable Krenko seems good) Bloodlust Inciter.

Wincons: gotta end the game somehow. Combo's are good: Breath of Fury, Staff of Domination, Thornbite Staff, Umbral Mantle are the best combo lines for Krenko afaik. If not/next to combo, we have good old damage: Coat of Arms, Eldrazi Monument, Impact Tremors, Obelisk of Urd, Skirk Fire Marshal, Purphoros, God of the Forge, Shared Animosity, Devilish Valet, Quest for the Goblin Lord, Throne of the God-Pharaoh.

If we let our opponents do whatever they want we'll have trouble winning, even with our speed. Luckily red has quite some options. Don't forget Liquimetal Torque can turn things into artifacts so we can shoot them easier. Abrade, Chaos Warp, Gempalm Incinerator (great removal spell, terrible creature), Goblin Assassin (wipes the floor with creature decks), Goblin Bombardment, Goblin Cratermaker, Goblin Sharpshooter, Goblin Trashmaster, Goblin Welder (hits opponents too), Mogg Salvage, Pashalik Mons, Skirk Fire Marshal (your board survives this with Coat of Arms or Eldrazi Monument), Furystoke Giant, Shattering Spree, better than Vandalblast, Wild Magic Surge.

Best Utility Lands: Great Furnace, Buried Ruin, Path of Ancestry, Castle Embereth.

I'm tired and my brain is dying so here's a dump of things I forgot or for didn't have a place to mentioned yet :)

Heirloom Blade, Chandra, Torch of Defiance, Blood Moon, Brash Taunter, Impulsive Pilferer, Jeska's Will, Goblin Chirurgeon, Goblin Sledder, Mogg Raider, Pyroblast, Red Elemental Blast, Tibalt's Trickery, Mogg War Marshal, Legion Loyalist, Legion Warboss, Brash Taunter, Fable of the Mirror-Breaker  Flip, Hobgoblin Bandit Lord, Muxus, Goblin Grandee (idk at what math this is good I'm sure someone did it already somewhere on the internet), Siege-Gang Commander, Zo-Zu the Punisher, Goblin Ringleader, Goblin Piledriver, Arms Dealer, Grotag Night-Runner, Goblin King (get 5th or 6th edition art btw).

Good luck on figuring things out. I'm off to bed

PinnedPhoenix on Whole Lotta Red - Birgi Wheel Combo

4 months ago

kookoo - hi!

I can definitely see Simian Spirit Guide here. the fact that it's effectively free means it can smooth out the deck's hiccups and occasionally help it go off a turn earlier. ditto for Lotus Petal. I'll consider adding them!

as for the others, I think they're just a touch too slow and/or inconsistent. I love Wheel of Misfortune, for example. it's a personal favorite of mine. but if you get outbid, it can easily ruin your game, and that's a big built-in risk to add to a deck like this one.

as for Ricochet Trap - it's a mana cheaper, but Reverberate is so good here because it can effectively act as another mana spell, which is huge. in fact, if you copy Seething Song, it's actually the best mana spell in this deck. that's a little too good to pass up, even if it is a bit more expensive!

kookoo on Whole Lotta Red - Birgi Wheel Combo

4 months ago

I wonder if you added some Simian Spirit Guides, Lotus Petals and some Mox Opals or Chrome Moxs, maybe a Wheel of Misfortune, would this be good in legacy?

I also recommend Ricochet Trap, because while it can't copy a spell like Reverberate can, it can counter a spell for less mana.

Ajuntoson on Nicol Bolas, Lord of Discard

6 months ago

As a fan of Nekusar, the Mindrazer, I can confidantly say that this deck looks really solid. Something I've always liked is Library of Leng. It lets you discard cards you may want to keep back to the top of your deck, which allows you to keep your best stuff when you wheel everyone elses best toys away. Sangromancer can offer a bit of extra life in case you end up being a a target. Reinterpret is a wild counterspell that can lead to some fun plays and drop bombs while also interrupting your opponents plans. Feed the Swarm gives you another way to potentially deal with pesky enchantments. Burning Inquiry is just a pet card of mine. Can really mess up peoples plans. Wheel of Misfortune needs to be read and re-read 7 times, but it puts in so much work while being just a touch chaotic. Wheel and Deal can also really mess with people, especially since its a wheel at instant speed. You are already running Notion Thief, so Narset, Parter of Veils is just another way to lock out extra card draw. Bloodchief Ascension gets out of hand really fast, and very quickly ends the game. last thing, Tinybones, Trinket Thief is a nice little card draw engine that doubles as a wincon. If you are having a hard time trying to find cuts, I have noticed there are quite a few cards in the deck that have really high mana values. I would personally start there. I am not sure your budget, so feel free to take all of these suggestions as you see fit. From one Grixis player to another, I wish you the best of luck with your deck.

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