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Pay 3 life: Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
3 weeks ago
Cool deck! Thoughts on these? Patriar's Seal, Necrologia, Unspeakable Symbol, Curse of Bounty, Marwyn, the Nurturer, Wild Beastmaster, Lathril, Blade of the Elves, Cultivator of Blades, Sanguine Bond, Vampiric Link (stacks with lifelink!), Momentous Fall, Soul's Majesty
2 months ago
I could be wrong, but I think Dig Through Time should go in over Treasure Cruise, it digs far deeper. I use Second Chance with Hall of Heliod's Generosity as a win con, it's a bit clunky but infinite turns is pretty good, I'm not sure if your deck can use it without All That Glitters or some other way to pump Zur, but your deck doesn't have to use Necropotence to lower your life total and can still draw cards potentially, so it might work here. You could throw in Unspeakable Symbol as a way to lower your life total (that Zur can find) that also pumps Zur to then win with extra turns, the only annoyance is that the life payment is in clumps of 3, so you might not get to 0 very easily with it. Solitary Confinement is very good with Necropotence out, potentially a lot better than Island Sanctuary.
Love your deck idea, I've often been impressed by stuff like Axis of Mortality, such a versatile card. If you use a 'life exchange' effect to raise an opponent's life total, Tainted Remedy turns the gained life to loss, which can kill people even if you don't target yourself with it, and the player that didn't die is now stuck with the much lower life total.
2 months ago
I've not seen him played but I wouldn't build him with the expectation of being able to flip him consistently. You'll need to lose exactly 27 life and have that 6 mana available before one of your opponents knocks you out of the game. 13 damage is such an easy thing to do really. Even if they don't knock you out of the game they only have to push you off 13 life before your end step. That said there are some options for you that could really make the deck tick and allow you to get to that life total quickly.
Unspeakable Symbol, Soul Channeling, Phyrexian Processor, Infernal Contract, Plague of Vermin, Toxic Deluge, Hatred, Razaketh, the Foulblooded, Doom Whisperer, Wall of Blood, K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth, Blood Celebrant, Vilis, Broker of Blood, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, and Bolas's Citadel.
Some of these will just set you to 13 life, others will get you close. Things like Hatred I really like here because that could be knocking someone out of the game. Then flipping your commander and going right into drawing a bunch of cards. You'd need 11 mana to do that in 1 turn though so I'd also include black's big mana cards like Nirkana Revenant and Crypt Ghast. A number of these things are mana hungry to do in one turn. All in all I wouldn't say this is looking half bad. Some rather strong cards here at the core of your strategy.
2 months ago
MagicMarc: Rakdos with lifegain lol I like the idea just bc it's unusual. Preypiecer would be interesting with lifelink creatures. Especially lifelinked creatures pumped by Unspeakable Symbol. Though I suppose Furnace of Rath would suffice with Mogis as the commander.
Been exploring other options too. Willowdusk, Essence Seer caught my eye. Could make it revolve around evasive lifelink creatures and Vito effects. Pay lots of life say to a Wall of Blood or Murderous Betrayal, Lurking Evil, Unspeakable Symbol, Phyrexian Processor ect. Gain it all back when you slap the +1/+1 counters on a lifelink critter and swing. Needs more of a setup with Willowdusk and the cards are all playable with just Vito (with his effect). Essence Harvest and Rite of Consumption would be hilarious includes. Add Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord for giggles. I even thought of running Jarad at the helm. With a lifegain suite and Wall of Blood, Jarad can one shot the table. Ntm there are so many ways to tutor for WoB in golgari. Unspeakable Symbol works great with him too. I'm sure there are more examples with Jarad but I have yet to look into it.
Thanks yet again! Though I may just brew that Rakdos deck as it's intriguing as is Jarad with a lifegain twist.
2 months ago
I just want to point out that you could do a Rakdos commander deck and have both your pain/punishment as well as lifegain matters in the same deck.
As you already stated, Mogis would have Tobran in his 99. Why not Vito and other lifegain shenanigans?
Cards like Torbran, Thane of Red Fell or Brash Taunter using its fight ability while Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose activated or anything that does big damage equipped with stuff like Basilisk Collar, Batterskull, Shadowspear, Whip of Erebos, and Mask of Griselbrand.
I like the sound of a Tobran/Vito deck with say Obosh, the Preypiercer as your commander? Or keep Mogis for his inevitability.
2 months ago
I'm stuck between two different strategies and for each of them I'm stuck between mono color or dual color commanders. Im looking at a pain/punisher deck or a lifegain matters deck. What I need is advice on which of the two commanders you think would fair better for each strategy and why. Which of the two to go with I will have to figure out myself. Budget generally is less than $10-15 a card but cheaper is always better :) I do have most of the more expensive staples (think Craterhoof Behemoth, Wheel of Fortune, Demonic Tutor ect.) however.
Torbran, Thane of Red Fell vs Mogis, God of Slaughter: this is a pain/burn/punisher deck. My question is, is the addition of black with admittedly more pain options and tutors/draw worth Torbran's ability to break parity? They'd run the same gambit of cards for the most part but Spellshock is much more damming with Torbran out and readily available. Mogis would run Torbran in the 99 though.
Dina, Soul Steeper vs Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose: again both like lifegain but Dina prefers quantity over quality whereas Vito is the opposite. I do not own Exquisite Blood (my idiot self traded it away years ago) so that combo probably isn't going to be included. However I am aware of Dina's combo with Witherbloom Apprentice and Chain of Smog which I can pull together. Vito with Blood Tribute will one shot an opponent. You could also run a lifelink creature and pump it with +1/+1 counters through Unspeakable Symbol to gain a ton of life and dome someone with Vito. I also own Aetherflux Reservoir so I can death star someone down with either commander. Crypt Rats with lifelink could also cause some huge shenanigans with Vito.
I've built and play tested some preliminary decks (on tappedout) and I'm leaning towards Torbran/Vito. Just need a slap of reality if I'm wrong :)
3 months ago
The new set had me missing a favorite commander of mine, that being Horobi, Death's Wail. I'm looking to remake him but don't want to necessarily go all in as I know that's a trap with him but run most of the great stuff with it. I'm looking to use him as a 1 sided board wipe to clear the field a time or two. That being said I can see him going a few directions
Discard/Pain: Cards like Underworld Dreams or Megrim using Horobi to keep the board clear. Prob the worst way to build him and the slowest. Blood Artist and friends would work well against creature heavy decks.
Infect: while Skittles may be the go-to infect commander I think Horobi can be useful in clearing the path for smaller infect creatures while pumping them prior to horobi's grand entrance. Reason here being cards like Dauthi Trapper, Unspeakable Symbol, Dauthi Embrace work amazing well with Horobi and work well without him with your infect creatures. 10 damage is more easy to cough up than 40.
Combo: some sort of combo in mono black that I'm not aware of. Anything would help. While not a combo par se Endless Whispers would be a funny way to keep Horobi online. Peer into the Abyss + Underworld Dreams would certainly work but is mana intensive.
If you can think of another way to build him that would be great. Or perhaps I'm overthinking it and should stick to just his staples? Lemme know
4 months ago
Oh, I mentioned it above but get Unspeakable Symbol in here... it's pretty much auto-include #1 in Marchesa lists.