Black Vise

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Oldschool 93/94 Legal
Premodern Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Black Vise


As Black Vise enters the battlefield, choose an opponent.

At the beginning of the chosen player's upkeep, Black Vise deals X damage to that player, where X is the number of cards in his or her hand minus 4.

I_am_a_Pi_Rho on Pew PEW PEW

1 month ago

SufferFromEDHD that reminds me. I probably need to add The Rack and Black Vise.

Dead_Blue_ on Rakdos Dreams

2 months ago

I think you need more Black Vise type of effects. I don’t know any off top of my head to suggest though :/

Squee_Spirit_Guide on Dingus Tribal

3 months ago

Andramalech That is so true! If Wizards creates more support for the Dingus I'll definitely open the deck up beyond 1999 :) Although, since they last printed a Dingus in 1997 I'm not holding out much hope...

Early on the deck was just and I had some discard like Hymn to Tourach. I kept finding that the land destruction meant my oponent was more likely to have a lot of cards in hand, so I added Black Vise as a finisher and just focused on finding the combo pieces.

You've got me thinking though... I can see a version that uses Megrim and things like Wheel of Fortune and Memory Jar to force mass discard so the damage stacks up quickly. Land destruction could help make sure my opponents have plenty to discard. That would be less Dingus-focused, but probably a better deck :)

Squee_Spirit_Guide on How I Learned To Tap Dance

4 months ago

I love the look of this! It's not quite in line with the tapping theme, but what about Upheaval or Evacuation as a finisher with Black Vise?

EnbyGolem on Love is War (Budget Grouphug)

5 months ago

Interesting list! I also have a mono blue Forcefeed deck and it’s been a fun strategy to try and pull off :) My main win cons there tend to be Iron Maiden, Viseling, or Black Vise. Are these something you might consider as well or do they go against the spirit of your deck?

tonylomas on Fast tips

5 months ago

lel xdd like Misers' Cage 5+=2dmg , Skullcage 3/4 ≠ = 2dmg, Black Vise X dmg - 4. too noob? xd lol looks like a bad idea i guess

Sheahi on I Draw, You Mill. That Simple.

6 months ago

jonny909090 I run a similar Commander deck Mortivore, Consuming Aberration, Black Vise, Forced Fruition and my 2 favorite card combo Peer into the Abyss with (what you already have) Sphinx's Tutelage (or any similar mill/draw cards) and to hold my deck over I like to use cards like Venser's Journal and it's lesser counter part Ivory Tower

(I don't know how to remove my previous comment)

JoosetheMuice on Kynaios Actual

7 months ago

For adds, I think you need some finishers as well as ways to make the abundance of resources hurt your opponents more.

Some Ideas: Black Vise Xyris, the Writhing Storm Edric, Spymaster of Trest Blatant Thievery The Locust God Gisela, Blade of Goldnight Hellkite Tyrant Praetor's Council Control Magic Generous Gift

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