Black Vise

Artifact

As this enters, choose an opponent.

At the beginning of the chosen player's upkeep, this deals X damage to that player, where X is the number of cards in their hand minus 4.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Big Apple Highlander	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Oldschool 93/94	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
PreDH	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (49)

theNeroTurtle on Phenax mill

8 months ago

Looks like you already dropped the deck to the right count. So no help needed there. I could be wrong, but the theme of your deck seems to run closer to Black Vise and other cards causing everyone to have a lot of cards in hand than it does with your commander. I could be wrong though. I am going to recommend the Grindstone + Painter's Servant mill combo, only because mill is kind of a thing in this build.

If you can tell me more of what you are looking for, I would be happy to make suggestions.

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hyalopterouslemur on Best color for this type …

1 year ago

Cards like Zulaport Cutthroat are a type of burn ideal for Stax, but it really depends on which resource you're denying. I'm really fond of Black Vise plus land destruction.

hyalopterouslemur on Best color for this type …

1 year ago

What you're looking for is a Stax deck. Basically it uses cards to disable conventional paths to victory (I'm fond of Winter Orb and Meekstone in this way.) while using things like Black Vise or Zulaport Cutthroat to slowly chip away at an opponent's life total.

Stax decks come in all colors, since a lot of the pieces are artifacts, but you're usually looking for {W} or {U} for the lockdown effects, {B} for forced sac effects, and possibly {R} for direct damage or {G} to make sure the controllish aspects of the deck don't apply to you.

Hybrow on Snakes on a Planeswalker - Xyris EDH swarm

1 year ago

Seuchenschutz, thanks for the comment and suggestions

I have been looking to remove Solemn Simulacrum for a while. I have found I dont really need the land drop or 1 card draw in this deck so much. Of the cards you suggested, I really like Balor as a replacement. Having an extra flying blocker is nice. and the 3 card draw is funny. Any draw for my opponents that requires discard is always nice.

As for In the Web of War, I already have two haste enabling enchantments Fervor and Roar of Resistance. They both have a lower CMC, and although the +2/0 is nice, I usually have so many snakes in a 3-4 player game, it kinda doesnt matter.

I like Black Vise as a fun addtion, but not sure what I can take out for it. (thats always the hardest part. I will probably keep that one in my maybe board for a while.

Seuchenschutz on Snakes on a Planeswalker - Xyris EDH swarm

1 year ago

Black Vise and In the Web of War are fun cards to play in the deck. Also Balor seems to be a perfect fit.

YourNeighborhoodGhost on Ebony owl nesukar

1 year ago

love it got a deck with Ebony Owl Netsuke and Black Vise myself. was running Overburden maybe it could be good in your deck aswell.

SufferFromEDHD on Mindskinner Ability Loss

1 year ago

Ipnu Rivulet

Mind Bomb discard or mill

Black Vise and/or The Rack depending on your meta

Ankh of Mishra value

Crumbling Sanctuary commander #2

halanvaina on Mono Red Control/Mill (Premodern)

2 years ago

Forgot about other stuff and sideboard updates.

I see the problem with the 5 mana stuff, so I added a couple Helm of Awakening to try and reduce the cost a little. Has to be colorless since almost all of my 5 drops are artifacts. Speaking of 5 drops, i added a single Mangara's Tome as a way to kind of tutor with a added risk. More tweaking foreseeable in the future. I know it's jank, no need to tell me.

As for the sideboard I took out Black Vise for Red Elemental Blast. Forgot what I took out, but I put 3 Burnout in there. Added a couple Tangle Wire, leave the creature hate alone and I think it's fine.

Also as for the whole Dwarven Ruins thing, I'm actually debating if I should replace those, or take out two mountains for the Balduvian Trading Posts. Again I'm very much in debate over this.