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|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
|Pauper Duel Commander||Legal|
Search your library for a Forest card, put that card onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
15 hours ago
It has been decided that 'Portal: Three Kingdoms' is now a legal set in our format. New cards to pick from :-)
Thanks for the question Metroid_Hybrid :-)
Note to self:
2 weeks ago
Mana Drain is nice, but I am usually not a fan of it in a deck with 4 or more colors
With this being 5 color, I am trying to debate the best early game package
5 counterspells (from below)
4-5 board wipes
7 2 drop ramps (need all)
4 spot removal
3 weeks ago
Thanks, I'll definitely take those suggestions into account! I look forward to playing this deck, hopefully I won't be taken out of the game first when I find a pod to play in and can make friends with other players at the LGS and play EDH on a regular basis. I'll look into some more shock lands and triomes with basic land types like Ziatora's Proving Ground and Ketria Triome and find copies of Nature's Lore and Three Visits. Replacing some more non-creature cards to add in other dragons also sounds like a good plan. After seeing it in Arena I was considering Moonveil Regent for some extra card draw but I could see adding Rishkar's Expertise as well. I'd like to have closer to 30-33 creatures and have more creature spells than non-creature spells so I'm almost there. Thanks again for the help, I didn't even know about a majority of the cards you suggested and I can see why they get so much play in EDH!
3 weeks ago
Hey Eldmoi, thanks for the info. There's a quite a bit I would recommend optimizing. The long story short is that most of the dragons I'd recommend are already on my budget primer that you've seen and my super budget deck list that was part of the primer but is also available here if you're interested here.
First of all, you need to make sure your deck has a decent amount of ramp to cast your awesome dragons within a reasonable amount of time. If you are on a budget then I'd recommend Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, and Sakura-Tribe Elder at the very least. Other options for cheap ramp are Farseek, Wild Growth, and Fertile Ground. If you want to further optimize ramp, then adding in Nature's Lore and Three Visits on top of some forest based shock lands (e.g. Stomping Ground or triomes (e.g. Ziatora's Proving Ground would be ideal.
Second, you want to optimize your mana base by minimizing the number of taplands and ensuring you have the colors you need. Any tap lands that tap for only 2 colors (e.g. guild gates) could safely be dropped for basic lands. Tri-lands like you mentioned are decent enough to start off, because they can tap for 3 colors, but even those are suboptimal in the face of options like Dragonskull Summit and Blood Crypt. Furthermore, almost 50% of your deck requires red mana, so I'd ensure your lands reflects that.
Some things off the top of my head for instants and sorceries: I would consider Crucible of Fire to be a win more card. Lozhan, Dragons' Legacy is almost a strictly better Sarkhan's Unsealing. Damn and Farewell are really good board wipes that aren't as mana intensive as some you're running. Garruk's Uprising is a very potent form of card draw. Monster Manual is probably better than Thran Temporal Gateway in most cases.
Finally the dragons. There are so many good dragons to consider, many of which I've mentioned in my deck primer, and many of which are available on most dragon lists online, that I'll focus on highlighting dragons I would recommend removing:
Acid-Spewer Dragon - Overcosted and doesn't do much. Deathtouch isn't as useful on a dragon that should be big enough to kill most thing it hits in the first place.
Backdraft Hellkite - Most instant and sorceries you have are too expensive or are simply aren't as immediately useful (e.g. don't want to board wipe your own dragons). The most useful ones you run are removal, but at that point you can just play dragons that can inherently remove things like Steel Hellkite.
Crosis, the Purger - Hard to save mana to take advantage of its effect. It'll feel bad to take advantage of its effect in casual metas anyways. If you really want to run a dragon like this then Teneb, the Harvester might be more fitting but even then I wouldn't really recommend it, because of the mana investment needed to make it work.
Dragonmaster Outcast - Not a good early game play and easy to kill later on.
Kargan Dragonlord - Costs too much to do too little. We have so many dragon options, even in budget decks, that vanilla dragons simply aren't worth it.
Malfegor - Discarding our hand isn't good to do unless it involves redrawing more cards (e.g. Knollspine Dragon).
Necromaster Dragon - Summoning vanilla 2/2 zombie tokens for 2 mana isn't good value in a dragon deck, and you have to go through combat to get it off. In a world where Ancient Gold Dragon exists, it's hard to justify an effect like this. Dragon Broodmother and Lathliss, Dragon Queen and Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm would be far more effective token generators.
There's always more we could do to optimize any deck, including mine for sure, so I'd be happy to comment more later if you'd like. But I also want to emphasize that as long as you and your playgroup are having fun, you really can't go wrong :)
1 month ago
If you want to lower the curve, I'd start with cards like Deadbridge Chant and Selective Adaptation. Neither are very good, and the Chant has never performed for me like I wanted it to. Running two mana ramp is a good way to go, too, but it tends to get pricier. Three Visits, Rampant Growth, and Nature's Lore are good two mana ramp cards. Your next alternative is to sub in some cheaper CMC reanimation spells, like Animate Dead, Dance of the Dead, Necromancy (pricy), Reanimate (pricy), Stitch Together (situational, but probably manageable in this deck), and Exhume.
Something to keep in mind, though, about your curve, is that although it's floating around 4, you aren't planning on casting quite a few of the spells in the deck. So your decks CMC is inflated, so to speak. Just bear that in mind.
1 month ago
1x Cavalier of Dawn
1x Cavalier of Flame
1x Flamekin Harbinger
1x Geode Rager
1x Horn of Greed
1x Vanquisher's Banner
1 month ago
Cultivate, Wilderness Reclamation, Augur of Autumn, Beast Whisperer, Destiny Spinner, Reclamation Sage, Beast Within, Return of the Wildspeaker, Heroic Intervention, Acidic Slime, Bane of Progress, Allosaurus Shepherd, Toski, Bearer of Secrets, Vigor, Kodama of the East Tree, Ohran Frostfang, Harrow, Rampant Growth, Nature's Lore, Three Visits, Search for Tomorrow, Farseek, Thunderfoot Baloth, Saryth, the Viper's Fang, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Wood Elves, Farhaven Elf, Force of Vigor, Wrap in Vigor
1 month ago
Wheel of Fortune too expensive and doesn't need to be in every deck with red
I honestly might thing of going in a more tokens heavy direction rather than trying a cat, dog tribal. I have seen some crazy synergies with either Jetmir or Jinnie Fae as general and things like Academy Manufacturer, the enchantment that can turn them into angel tokens, Rabble Rousing, Grand Crescendo, and the like. It opens you up to running better tokens producing cards to overrun your opponents, also letting Triumph of the Hordes being a win con.