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RinceRaven on krenko
2 weeks ago
Alright alright so I got asked to give a bunch of suggestions so here we go. Hoo boy. Gonna try to keep most suggestions low on budget but will include the best slightly expensive cards. Should also mention I got a lot of things I know from this primer, cheers. https://deckstats.net/decks/82803/752805-competitive-krenko/en
First the draw pieces you missed: Rundvelt Hordemaster, Dark-Dweller Oracle, Skullclamp, Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner, Reforge the Soul, Conspicuous Snoop, You Find Some Prisoners. The only actual good ones you got in this draft are Idol of Oblivion and Wheel of Misfortune imo, though most are servicable.
Next up ramp: Mana doublers are too slow for a deck as fast as Krenko, and you don't have the card draw to support such cards in mono-red. Not really. Also with the 4 mana commander having 2 mana ramp becomes much, much more valued. Cheering Fanatic, Liquimetal Torque, Generator Servant, Wily Goblin, Infernal Plunge, Fire Diamond (Yes I know, I think it's fine here).
Haste: Giving Krenko (and his tokens) haste literally puts you a turn ahead over not having it. Crashing Drawbridge, Ashling's Prerogative (Even gives tokens haste too), Generator Servant (multipurpose? Whoa), Goblin Chieftain, Goblin Motivator, Lightning Greaves, Mass Hysteria, Thousand-Year Elixir (tad pricey but repeatable Krenko seems good) Bloodlust Inciter.
Wincons: gotta end the game somehow. Combo's are good: Breath of Fury, Staff of Domination, Thornbite Staff, Umbral Mantle are the best combo lines for Krenko afaik. If not/next to combo, we have good old damage: Coat of Arms, Eldrazi Monument, Impact Tremors, Obelisk of Urd, Skirk Fire Marshal, Purphoros, God of the Forge, Shared Animosity, Devilish Valet, Quest for the Goblin Lord, Throne of the God-Pharaoh.
If we let our opponents do whatever they want we'll have trouble winning, even with our speed. Luckily red has quite some options. Don't forget Liquimetal Torque can turn things into artifacts so we can shoot them easier. Abrade, Chaos Warp, Gempalm Incinerator (great removal spell, terrible creature), Goblin Assassin (wipes the floor with creature decks), Goblin Bombardment, Goblin Cratermaker, Goblin Sharpshooter, Goblin Trashmaster, Goblin Welder (hits opponents too), Mogg Salvage, Pashalik Mons, Skirk Fire Marshal (your board survives this with Coat of Arms or Eldrazi Monument), Furystoke Giant, Shattering Spree, better than Vandalblast, Wild Magic Surge.
I'm tired and my brain is dying so here's a dump of things I forgot or for didn't have a place to mentioned yet :)
Heirloom Blade, Chandra, Torch of Defiance, Blood Moon, Brash Taunter, Impulsive Pilferer, Jeska's Will, Goblin Chirurgeon, Goblin Sledder, Mogg Raider, Pyroblast, Red Elemental Blast, Tibalt's Trickery, Mogg War Marshal, Legion Loyalist, Legion Warboss, Brash Taunter, Fable of the Mirror-Breaker Flip, Hobgoblin Bandit Lord, Muxus, Goblin Grandee (idk at what math this is good I'm sure someone did it already somewhere on the internet), Siege-Gang Commander, Zo-Zu the Punisher, Goblin Ringleader, Goblin Piledriver, Arms Dealer, Grotag Night-Runner, Goblin King (get 5th or 6th edition art btw).
Good luck on figuring things out. I'm off to bed
2 weeks ago
Last_Laugh, yeah I imagine I probably will add Chaos Warp back in soon, I just thought that with Venser, Shaper Savant it wouldn't be too bad since i can tutor for him quite easily to bounce it when needed. Although if it comes back down I can't recur him to bounce it again which would be an issue.
yeah Plumb the Forbidden looks really great. I missed that it was an instant when I first saw it lol. I probably will put it in soon.
I used to have Seize the Spotlight in the deck and it was pretty good value wise, however I often drew it when it wouldn't have performed that well like after a boardwipe or when there wasn't really any good creatures to take so my opponents would just choose to let me steal a creature. Perhaps I was just unlucky XD although to be fair I do tend to try and keep opponents boards clear of creatures.
Thanks for the suggestions!
2 weeks ago
I have 2 suggestions for you... other than get Chaos Warp back in the deck. It's literally one of only 2 options in these colors to deal with enchantments like Rest in Peace/Solemnity.
First, Plumb the Forbidden. Instant speed is what makes this card and it's super versatile in how you can use it. Dodge problematic wraths like exile, -X-X, tuck, etc., or just use it eot for a grip full of cards right before you untap.
Second, Seize the Spotlight. This card will almost always draw 3 essentially for free thanks to the treasures. A new go-to card for any red deck with sac outlets for me tbh but especially in Marchesa where them choosing the theft option is a lot more permanent.
2 weeks ago
It's a bit irresponsible but I usually tap out to cast syr carah so giving her haste to ping is fine but I usually won't be able to cast whatever I impulse draw that turn. The play pattern is usually ramp into Syr Carah, the Bold then on the next turn tap or attack with her to impulse draw chaining 4 mana worth of burn spells till I impulse draw a land.
Ward of Bones and Smoke are excellent recs. HOWEVER. this deck is full on Johnny. all spells must make mana or card advantage and or be a damage dealing instant or sorcery, which with Syr Carah, the Bold is card advantage. except I guess for Wild Magic Surge and Chaos Warp just because I'm not completely irresponsible...
Gamble? yeah. worst case scenario I find Volcanic Spray and put it into the graveyard. Best case I get Repercussion or a needed interaction in hand. It's not like I can discard combo pieces in this deck so it is card advantage or at least a one mana chance at card advantage.
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
I love this! It's very similar to the only Commander deck I've ever built, which was a lot of fun to play (for me, if not for my opponents). A couple of possible inclusions are Energy Field and Back to Basics to help buy time. And Polymorph and Chaos Warp are solid, chaotic removal if you find yourself in need of that.
1 month ago
Some thoughts: Even though the voltron route is a little counter intuitive, I think it's a nice twist on this dude. You should definitely add more ramp, removal and card draw, I'll come to some ideas later. And Abundance, while a great card for sure, isn't ramp. This is actually true for all cards in your ramp category except Provisioner.
For ramp, Sol Ring, Rampant Growth, Farseek, Nature's Lore, Three Visits and similar spells seem important, especially combined with the three playable Kaldheim snow duals. With these MV2 ramp spells, you will oftentimes be able to drop Windgrace on turn 3. Kodama's Reach and Cultivate are important as well. Splendid Reclamation would be a great addition.
1 month ago
In my last comment suggested a lot of cards to add, now here's some cards to consider cutting. For cards to consider cutting I would start with all the lower mana cost nonDemon creatures. I would simply replace these with other lower mana cost cards that can better enable Rakdos without attacking and reduce creature mana costs without attacking.
Rather than playing a lot of single creature removal spells, rely more on Demons who can destroy or remove creatures? Especially Demons who have repeatable removal effects. You could cut many creature removal spells and replace them with more draw.
Searing Spear, Shock, Disintegrate can target a player to make them lose life, but you have Lightning Bolt for that and you can make opponent lose life better ways then playing single burn spells. Some budget single removal spells are helpful such as Chaos Warp and Feed the Swarm because these spells can remove an enchantment, Warp any permanent. When attacking is important to your game plan these can remove Ghostly Prison, Propaganda and others.
Rakdos can only reduce the mana cost of creatures therefore play very few noncreature high mana cost spells or spells that require a lot of mana to be useful. Spells that need a lot mana paid to make them decent is not really what you want when playing many high mana cost creatures. Could cut these for more draw and ramp.
Rolling Earthquake is a budget spell like this that's worth playing because you can control how much damage each creature is going to take, most Demons including Rakdos have high toughness. You could cut a few of the lesser Demons.
In my last comment I recommended adding a lot of loot effects for draw. Loot is excellent with Blood Speaker and Speaker is a good reason to play Demon tribal since it's a tribal tutor that can be repeatable, return to your hand from your graveyard. Rakdos can reduce Speaker's mana cost to only 1 mana, making it a mana efficient way to repeatedly tutor for Demons.
Loot can be an enabler for reanimation and recursion which are helpful effects to have with Demons. Reanimation is a way to get Demons onto the battlefield without having to cast them, a backup for when Rakdos is disrupted. Recursion is getting Demons back into your hand or casting them from your graveyard. Patriarch's Bidding can reanimate all Demons in your graveyard. Persist and Exhume can reanimate for only two mana.
Chainer, Nightmare Adept has interaction with looting, getting Demons into your graveyard to cast them using Rakdos mana cost reduction. If you discard a Demon using Chainer's ability you can cast that same Demon giving it haste to attack. Rakdos also gains haste from Chainer when he's cast from the Command Zone. Any creature you reanimate gains haste from Chainer.
Chainer has excellent interaction with creatures who can sac themselves for value such as Magus of the Wheel and Doomed Necromancer. With Chainer these creatures gain haste when cast from your graveyard allowing them to tap and activate their abilities right away. Doomed Necromancer can reanimate even at instant speed. Chainer is good with Blood Speaker as discard outlet that can keep coming back to your hand.
Some more budget Demons to consider adding:
- Spawn of Mayhem: enabler for Rakdos.
- Demon of Loathing
- Orcus, Prince of Undeath
- Demonlord Belzenlok
- Hidetsugu, Devouring Chaos
- Kardur, Doomscourge
Some budget land upgrades to consider:
- Smoldering Marsh --> Temple of the False God
- Foreboding Ruins --> 1x Swamp
- Path of Ancestry --> 1x Swamp
- Myriad Landscape --> 1x Swamp
Temple of the False God is not a good land when you have no land ramp. It will not tap for mana until at least turn five and that's if you make all your land drops. Even if playing green and land ramp such as Cultivate I still wouldn't play Temple of the False God, it's just not a good enough land in the early turns of a game.
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