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Deafening Silence Discussion
1 week ago
@DuTogira Personally, I disagree about Splinter Twin stifling diversity in the Modern meta. Before its ban I was running a homebrew Mardu deck that had an incredibly favorable win-rate against Twin. The deck's win-rates also varied amongst the other decks in the format with its worst matchup being burn. Ever since Twin's ban aggro has swarmed the format outpacing my deck harder than before.
My homebrew deck's most defining piece was utilizing an Evershrike in the graveyard and using a Spirit Loop or Rancor to make it a constant presence in the late game. Graveyard strategies weren't as common back then either as I believe Living Death was the only significant graveyard strat at the time, so most decks wouldn't dedicate too much room to graveyard hate. With Twin gone other faster and more efficient graveyard strategies arose and graveyard hate out of sideboard became all the more frequent which made winning games 2 and 3 much more difficult for my deck. Not only that but those graveyard strategies that couldn't exist with Splinter Twin around ended up getting Faithless Looting banned. As a non-blue deck Faithless Looting was the glue that kept my deck together as getting a certain 5-CMC creature in the grave and an aura in hand is difficult and slow enough as it is. My deck could handle Jund/Abzan's hand disruption and their Scavenging Ooze 's, but with much more graveyard hate, more aggressive aggro decks and no Faithless Looting I would argue banning Splinter Twin killed my deck even though I never used that card in the first place.
I feel the banning has only diversified aggro and phased out slower decks like mine that had better win rates against Twin and BGx. I also think it's a false positive as there have been a huge slew of new modern-viable cards that have been printed since Twin's banning. The format was going to grow regardless of if Twin were to be banned or not, the real question was by how much? I also feel like there have been many more cards printed during this time that could be made excellent sideboard cards against Twin than there have been new cards printed to help with Twin's strategies. I remember the times when Combust was one of the answers used at stopping Splinter Twin and then they printed Rending Volley which took countering the strategy even further. Since then I've seen more and more cards printed in Standard that I feel could further help in keeping Twin in check today more than it ever was before. These are cards printed after it's banning that could be used against it now if it were ever unbanned: Sinister Concoction , Thalia, Heretic Cathar , Unsubstantiate , Spell Queller , Authority of the Consuls , Lost Legacy , Fatal Push , Harsh Mentor , Trespasser's Curse , Tocatli Honor Guard , Rampaging Ferocidon , Kinjalli's Sunwing , Kitesail Freebooter , Cast Down , Assassin's Trophy , Unmoored Ego , Dovin's Veto , Force of Negation , Force of Vigor , Veil of Summer , Fry , Aether Gust , Brazen Borrower , Hushbringer , Deafening Silence , Mystical Dispute , Drown in the Loch , Wilt and Necromentia . I've likely missed a couple more due to how many sets have been released since and there will always be more cards that will be printed in future that can disrupt the strategy too. Since there have been many new deck archetypes that have emerged and been developed and improved upon over the many years in a non-Twin environment I'd like to see how they'd stack against Twin now just to see if it really is still an obstacle.
1 week ago
Just a few card suggestions to look into:
Debt to the Deathless - Pretty solid finisher when you have the mana.
Blind Obedience - I like it for the stax effect, but extort just gets better the more players you're up against.
Pristine Talisman - Life gain and ramp!
Witch of the Moors - This is definitely more of a me card, but I hate people and their creatures. This card supports that.
Do you also hit any draw issues? If you do, there might be some cards that draw for life like Phyrexian Arena .
1 month ago
Have you played Mardu in Kaladesh? That was not a drag-out-the-game deck. It used Thraben Inspector, Toolcraft Exemplar and Gideon, Ally of Zendikar along with vehicles to pressure your opponent really fast.
Your analysis left out the part where white is also the color of Savannah Lions and Isamaru, Hound of Konda. And those are strong enough cards in other formats, because it's 1v1 and because it's only 20 life. White weenie tactics don't translate that well to 40 life multiplayer, thàts why you can't win turn 4 in white in commander, with 120 life opposing you instead of just 20. When you use the stax way to compensate for that, drag everyone down to your level, you'll have three opponents annoyed that their playing pace have slowed down, with three times the answers to oppose your plan.
Don't get me wrong, I love playing mono white, but all the sighs from across the table whenever I do what white does best, tells me that white's probably the least enjoyable color to play against. People don't like getting their spells countered, an argument could be made for blue, but a counterspell is just once, move on and forget about it. A Deafening Silence is a constant reminder why I'm preventing you from executing your plan. A Day of Judgment is a conscious effort to destroy everything you've been playing for the last 5 turns.
White is full of powerful effects just as any other color, but where a red explosion turn can leave you impressed by everything that just happened, a green Craterhoof can make you scratch yourself behind your ear how you went from 36 to -152 life, black's race to finish you before accidentally finishing themselves keeps you on the edge of your seat, and blue's gigantic card advantage potential leaves you jealous, white's strongest avenues to victory will almost always upset all opponents. When you pay Real Life taxes, at least the community will benefit from it. Nobody likes to be put in prison. Which is a problem when you're gathered with a few others for a night of fun, and the white deck is trying its best to prevent the rest of the table from having their fun.
Suppressing others from having fun to have your own is a great competitive 1v1 tactic to annoy your opponent, make them prone to more mistakes, but it's terrible for social multiplayer formats if you want to get invited back. That's White's image issue. Combine that with the in-game inability to keep up with the other colors in both cards in hand and available resources to spend in a turn, and you've summed up pretty concise how white is typically bottom in most rankings.
1 month ago
kpres Are you talking about Deafening Silence ? I didn't know that card existed. I may have to try that out! I completely understand why people wouldn't like Zur. I enjoy it, but control is definitely not for everyone.
1 month ago
When it comes to EDH, I like to use a 5-point building strategy. This includes
Ramp(the higher power stuff)
Every card in your deck should be in one of those 5 slots. Additionally, I consider cards like Fellwar Stone, Signets, Talismans and Arcane Signet to fit largely in the 'land' slot. They're there for ramp, yes, but they're also largely there for color fixing.
Also, your win condition should be fairly compact. You can take a combo route, or you can have a couple specific cards that can win the game on their own or with a little support.
In discard themes . . . you don't get all that much. All the discard payoffs that help in other formats are too slow in EDH.
So I'd take the Pox plan -- use Smallpox, Pox, Hymn to Tourach, Wrench Mind and Vicious Rumors to throttle your opponent's hands. Use spells like Deafening Silence, Rule of Law, Spirit of the Labyrinth, Leonin Arbiter and Aven Mindcensor to prevent your opponents from getting back on their feet. Then, hit them with some win con of your choice. Make it quick, though, because they will eventually get out of your lock and come for your throat.
1 month ago
Red carries White in RW EDH decks with cards like Dockside Extortionist, Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast, Deflecting Swat, Gamble, Faithless Looting, Captain Lannery Storm, 6 of the 10 playable rituals, Wheel of Fortune, Wheel of Misfortune, Reforge the Soul . . . Red, in more tuned EDH, shifts from the aggro role it has in other formats to a color that wants to dump its hand to generate advantage and then cast a wheel effect to go back to 7.
If you get into cEDH, red is the color that drops Mana Crypt into Simian Spirit Guide and Rite of Flame to cast Fellwar Stone and then Wheel of Misfortune, meaning they ended net -1 cards to get a land, a crypt and a rock out. Starting t2 with 5 mana and a full hand is pretty good.
So the cards red/white gets from white are the generic support cards and a couple high-power tutors that Red misses. Cause who wants to play Deafening Silence when your whole strategy is 'cast your hand'? RW isn't bad in EDH, but it is pretty much just R+.
1 month ago
That's called Stax.
Unlike what many players end up assuming, stax is a strategy where you want to resolve one or two permanents that throttle your opponent in extreme ways that also don't really affect you. Then, you dig for your win condition.
RinceRaven on Kaalia
1 month ago
Okay so, this comment is kinda unreadable, and I'mma clean this up a bit, order cards together, give my personal thoughts and then repost it, but here's the dump version also so I can work off it myself
Dragon Tempest, Lightning Greaves, Caged Sun, Thran Dynamo, Aura of Silence, Austere Command, Archangel of Thune, Aurelia, the Warleader, Doom Whisperer, Rakdos, Lord of Riots, Sword of the Animist, Dragon's Hoard, Price of Fame, Ob Nixilis, Unshackled, Angel of Serenity, Kaalia of the Vast, Magus of the Moat, Herald of War, Primevals' Glorious Rebirth, Hazoret's Monument, Firemind Vessel, Worn Powerstone, Thundermaw Hellkite, Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury, Lathliss, the Dragon Queen, Karmic Guide, Sower of Discord, Angel of Condemnation, Blade of Selves, Gilded Lotus, Bolas's Citadel, Tainted Remedy, True Conviction, Deafening Silence, Grasp of Fate, Everflowing Chalice, Grafdigger's Cage