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Mystical Tutor Discussion
2 weeks ago
Apologies if I missed something in the primer or anything explaining
2 weeks ago
I did quite a bit of playtesting, was very happy with Flux Channeler, I'm really thinking hard on adding into my deck. With Mizzix of the Izmagnus in play, a Gamble for a Reiterate (or Electrodominance) get you 2 Experience and then I cast Electrodominance for (+ 2 Experience) gets you to 4 Experience then Reiterate for (+4 Experience). Initiating off a Desperate Ritual or something same result. So a win-con (assuming you have already Drawn/Muddle the Mixture/Spellseeker/Mystical Tutor the Electrodominance).
The lands were a little bit lean, but I think it's because your still 15 cards over, so skewing the testing a little bit.
You could cut Dualcaster Mage / Twinflame / Imperial Recruiter / Vedalken AEthermage since you have Bonus Round combos as a secondary win-con. (Primary being Reiterate + Electrodominance or Turnabout/Finisher).
Also have Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter too. Could add a Runic Repetition combo line too since you already have Mystic Retrieval so only 1 card). I like enjoy the Dualcaster Mage line though because it's only with 1 Experience and a Mizzix of the Izmagnus to copy.
After I got my Intuition from boxing day sale I put Enter the Infinite in my deck, I personally didn't like it, so I took it back out lol, but I get why it's in there! Instead I'm using these tutor win-lines with Intuition: Firemind's Foresight + Past in Flames + Mizzix's Mastery or Turnabout + Past in Flames + Mystical TutorReiterate. I almost feel like Enter the Infinite need a Show and Tell/Omniscience lol, but can't tutor that Omniscience (similar to the Aetherflux Reservoir)
Fork pretty expensive compared to the other copies, could cut that if you don't have one for budget, and too many copy spells, BUT... a Ral, Storm Conduit + any two copy spells is a win, I respect that line too!
Trim 1 of the protection boots (not Lightning Greaves) maybe, you wouldn't want to accidently ever draw 2 and like devastating if you draw all 3. Hexproof > Shroud but Attach > Equip, situational call, would use both in the appropriate situation, like in response to removal Attach is key, especially if you can stack multiple attaches like Equip, opponent responds with removal, in response Attach as a game example.
Your pretty close, couple more cuts and your there. Im still testing T6-8, I had a T4 win with your deck playtesting. I had thought of a T1 and was going to add to my primer when I got to a PC, then I forgot it lol, have to think what it was, I know we have T1 potential.
1 month ago
If someone tries to blow something of yours up before you can do that, instead go get Apostle's Blessing and then wait to try again (and hope they don't try blowing anything up again).
Basically, you use Sunforger to get cards like Esper Charm to draw and put counters on Ramos, Dragon Engine. Then, you use Ramos's ability to get the mana. You use the mana and Sunforger to get a card such as Cloudshift and use it on Ramos.
Now, you can use his ability of removing the counters again this turn, because the game treats him as a new entity. You continue to make mana and draw cards this way until you are eventually able to draw Elixir of Immortality, shuffling everything back. Then you just do this again and again until you win. It requires some luck, but if you put a high number of draw spells and flicker/blink effects in your deck that can be used, you should be able to get it to work most of the time.
(Now, if you're looking at making the deck strong, I think this the best way to go. As far as making it fun, I have no idea.)
2 months ago
Bandalorin No problem! :) Im glad that it mightve helped in some way!
Jeweled Lotus is actually the only card im considering outside of hullbreacher. I think the right way to evaluate the card is to approach it as a turn 1 exclusive dark ritual/ rites of flame. The 1-2 mana we would've spent on Emry with our islands/mana rocks is instead spent on accelerating our gameplan in some way. It makes some hands good that I would've considered much worse if it werent for JL. Consider the following (obscure and not very representative of JL's powerlevel) hands:
1 - Island x3, Mox Amber, Timetwister, Jeweled Lotus Lotus Petal, OR
2 - Island x2, Sol Ring, Jeweled Lotus, Isochron Scepter, Mystical Tutor, Urza's Bauble
The question, then, is: is a t1-only DR good enough? I'm leaning towards yes but I don't think I'm smart enough for a satisfactory answer to this question lol
2 months ago
Hi KrenkoSobBoss. Many thanks for your compliments. I feel very honored and am happy to see that someone is taking note of my deck and is inspired by it. Feel free to upload your deck to tappedout and I will take my time and comment on it if you so wish. I strongly believe that it is a fuck deck to play and worth investing money in :)
First off, you have a very keen eye and, indeed, I discarded Isochron Scepter and put it back in just recently along with Temporal Manipulation, which by the way is the reason for that. I will update the primer in due time (probably in a week or so when I have my vacations). For now I'll give you the short answers to your questions.
Targets for Isochron Scepter:
With these cards you can go infinite with Temporal Manipulation, except with Mystical Tutor. With Narset's Reversal and Mystical Tutor you can go infinite with Nexus of Fate. Outside the combo I would put in any counterspell as you can bounce Isochron Scepter later on to put any of the above mentioned cards in to combo off. As for Time Stretch, I wouldn't play it. Too high CMC. That's also why I cut Enter the Infinite.
What were the latest changes....
2 months ago
I definitely have a lot of experience playing a LOT of different group hug, pillowfort, and political style decks. I put a lot of thought into how these cards actually play out and how people react to them.
For example, Archon of Coronation does seem like a really cool card, and I DO love the Monarch mechanic! But I don't think the Archon will work the way you're hoping. Being the Monarch encourages people to want to attack you because they want that free extra card draw. We really don't want that kind of attention on us. The Monarch is actually a lot better for us when someone else has it, so that everyone else is busy attacking each other to try to get it and leaving us alone. Its why I actually ended up cutting a lot of Monarch cards from this deck. So if we're not the Monarch, then Archon second ability doesn't actually do anything for us, its just looks like another one of those Blazing Archon/Platinum Angel/Worship style effects that draws a lot of aggro, but doesn't actually help us much. Also, we don't really need the card draw, and when other people are drawing 3 or 4 cards a turn because of our group hugs, they might not care as much about the Monarch either.
The free counterspells are expensive, but very useful for this deck in particular, but could be easily swapped for other options, you'll just have to make sure to keep your mana up and cast them wisely. Same for the mana rocks, there's a lot of cheaper options like Mind Stone,Fellwar Stone, Talisman of Progress, etc.
Archmage Ascension will DEFINITELY turn a few heads in your direction, and with Opposition Agent coming out now, its actually really dangerous for us. I even ended up cutting Enlightened Tutor and Mystical Tutor from my deck because I'm just not such a big fan of tutors. Digging out one exact specific card and showing everyone what it is telegraphs that you're up to something, and they get suspicious. Besdies, we have enough card draw to eventually find whatever it is we're looking for anyway.
Still not too big of a fan the Isochron Scepter combo as it requires two specific cards that don't do much on thir own and don't really have any back up copies, but maybe that's just me.
2 months ago
Yeah, no. I'm not buying it. I think a lot more players than you assume, play the game to play the game, and just don't like to lock up tables in the magnitude you're suggesting. Because the way you picture it, there will be no decks left not playing blue or black in the world.
I will not be jamming Hullbreacher in my temur landfall deck, Opposition Agent will not make the cut for Rankle, Master of Pranks, nor for Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire (excellent answer right there in the command zone btw). Commander players all over the world like to play suboptimal decks with janky combos, tokens, big creatures, tribes, any way to personalize the experience and make it fun to play. The problems you are projecting are only for tables that rely on their tutors to do anything they want to, with only interaction, tutors, and instant, hard-to-interact-with win-the-game combo pieces in their deck.
Which is currently the most powerful way to play magic in EDH, because you're playing singleton. But not really, because every tutor counts as every other card in your deck that it can find. OP agent, like Aven Mindcensor, Stranglehold,Mindlock Orb and Leonin Arbiter, will absolutely WRECK cEDH tables, nobody will disagree with that. If you can't answer a 3/2 with your hand and/or boardstate, without searching your library, or if your deck can't win without its Thassa's Oracle, yes, then this card is a major problem for you.
But in the top 100 cards on EDHrec, there's 16 that get hosed by OP agent. 9 of them only search your library for land(s). If that was enough to be banned from a format, Null Rod and Collector Ouphe would have been banned ages ago, because almost every deck plays mana rocks (23 out of 100 are hosed by those). Getting your stuff stolen feels bad, however, so this will immediately make the top Salt Cards list on EDHrec.
It sounds like only the most powerful decks and tables are not ready for the impact of this card, the paradigm shift that searching your library to find exactly what you need at any time, can be answered now, and might no longer be the best thing to do in any situation, it might even lose you the game now. The rest of the world, who can just cast a 6-power creature from their hand, or the command zone, and start beating the player who forbids them to play their deck until he is no more, along with the other 2 players who don't have an OP agent in play and like to see it gone, will shrug and consider this the next unfun stax piece, like Stasis, Winter Orb, Armageddon, Cursed Totem, Drannith Magistrate, Notion Thief, Narset, Parter of Veils, Counterbalance + Sensei's Divining Top, Glacial Chasm and others that have mostly been self-restricted at 90% of all EDH playgroups in the world, but not banned.
So to preemptively ban this card because a small subset of commander metas around the world will have a hard time dealing with it, is hard for me to get behind, especially if that's the same subset that will have a Force of Will, an Assassin's Trophy, a Cyclonic Rift and/or a Mystical Tutor to find those or a different answer with OP agent on the stack.
2 months ago
plakjekaas So, I actually wanted to do the math on this, assuming you were in a Sultai+ shell, running the following tutors and cantrips, by turn three how often would you get OA and SS in hand?
If mulliganning to 4 is an option, the set looks to be a 64% chance to get both halves by turn three. This is further helped by running other forms of card advantage or search, effects like Neoform, Personal Tutor, Mindblade Render, slightly helped by running two commanders, Sylvan Library, Mystic Remora, etc.