Counter target enchantment, instant or sorcery spell. Its controller creates a 2/2 blue Bird creature token with flying.
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|Secret Lair (SLD)||Rare|
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Swan Song Discussion
4 days ago
Mortlocke Hey, thank you for your input. I do agree that this deck needs more interaction in general and I am working in finding the right ones. I do believe that a lot of the interaction comes from the creatures themselves, as well as, enchantments and sorceries. From your list I think the one that I like the most is Swan Song, I will probably make room in the deck for it. The low mana cost means I can play my creatures and leave one mana for it.
FounderX Hey, thanks a lot for your contribution. Your deck list looks amazing! I will definitely keep a close eye on it for ideas and inspiration. In terms of Strionic Resonator, I do think it is a really good card - but is it too win more? I have already 2 cards that are very reliant on the God himself (Paradox Haze & Training Grounds) maybe a third one is too much? I think that the new Lithoform Engine could be better alternative as it is more versatile?
1 week ago
Hey, thanks for the additional info.
For causal upgrades my advice is add cards that give you repeatable value; either draw, artifact tokens or pump for tokens. Cards in the original precon to consider adding:
- Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer could replace Temple of the False God.
- Loyal Apprentice could replace Catalog.
Other changes to consider:
- Treasure Mage could replace Broken Concentration.
- Bident of Thassa could replace Coveted Jewel.
- Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain could replace Darksteel Juggernaut.
- The Antiquities War could replace Dreamstone Hedron.
- Steel Overseer could replace Sin Prodder.
- Saheeli, Sublime Artificer could replace Colossus of Akros.
- Everflowing Chalice could replace Worn Powerstone.
- Stoic Rebuttal could replace Silumgar's Scorn.
- Spire of Industry could replace Highland Lake.
- Comet Storm could replace Volcanic Geyser.
Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer is a strong casual card with artifacts. It creates a Myr at your combat step then all token creatures you control can become any token creature you control. You can make all Thopters/Servos into Myrs for a huge Myr Battlesphere attack or make all Myrs/Servos into Thopters for a big flying army attack with Sharding Sphinx to double your army after combat damage.
Temple of the False God is not a good land for your deck because you can't tap it to make mana until your fifth turn at the earliest. It's not worth playing because of this and honestly it's not worth playing in any deck, but that's another discussion.
Sin Prodder can be repeatable draw, but more times than not an opponent will take the damage and have you put the card into your graveyard which is not helping you. Steel Overseer has great interaction with artifact tokens especially Thopters. It also has good interaction with Unwinding Clock letting you on everyone's turn put a counter on all your artifact tokens.
For control you've added three very good counterspells (Counterspell, Swan Song and Negate). Broken Concentration and Silumgar's Scorn don't compare to these other counterspells, that's why you should consider cutting them. Stoic Rebuttal because of the artifact theme activating metalcraft is good enough to add. Instead of more control, focus on your artifact game plan with Saheeli?
1 week ago
Got beaten to the comment. The joys of not being in NA :P
jaymc1130: While I agree that that combos like Flash + Protean Hulk are not compact in terms of card slots, they are compact in terms of deployment. And while they can consume up to 5 cards (Protean Hulk, Flash, Nomads en-Kor, Cephalid Illusionist, Thassa's Oracle), they only need 2 mana to work. So the trade-off is slots vs compact deploying of said combo.
Infinite mana combos on the other hand are a lot harder to judge from a "number of cards" point of view. While yes, you do need mana rocks to make Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter work, your deck is already running mana rocks/dorks (and will be optimised for this knid of ramp). It's kind of like saying that Palinchron + Deadeye Navigator needs at least 3 lands to work, making it a 5 card combo. While that's technically true, the lands are a given under most circumstances as they're already in the deck. And with the Dramatic Scepter combo, you're not going to prioritise running a bunch of land ramp as that would be counter intuitive. You're going to lean more heavily into rocks/dorks, so each of those slots is pulling double duty. And while you require more of a boardstate (which is the trade-off comapred to things like Flash), your combo only takes up 2 card slots.
It's also worth mentioning that infinite mana does not equal winning the game, however with a commander like Thrasios, Triton Hero or Kenrith, the Returned King, once you have infinite mana, you also have access to your whole deck. And again, you can run cards which are dedicated win conditions, or you cna leverage other cards which do double duty (like Swan Song) to create a win condition.
Monomanamaniac: I would absolutely agree that Dramatic Scepter is a compact combo (I don't think I said otherwise). It's not as compact as some combos (see jaymc1130's example of Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation) however the beauty of this, and most infinite mana combos, is that they act as a stepping stone to your next combo, but often times give you the best amount of redundancy for the least input. Because you can break your combo down into two parts 1) make mana, 2) spend mana, you can easily slot in replacements for each part without requiring ehter mana intensive or much clunkier solutions. For example, Bloom Tender, Faeburrow Elder, Freed from the Real and Pemmin's Aura can be used together to generate infinite mana. But either creature works with either enchantment, providing reduncancy. Oracle + Consultation on the other hand iether works with Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries however the former needs an additional card draw and the latter is much more mana intensive.