Swan Song

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal

Swan Song

Instant

Counter target enchantment, instant or sorcery spell. Its controller creates a 2/2 blue Bird creature token with flying.

wallisface on Mono Blue Control

1 week ago

As you’ve already eluded to, the sideboard reads more like cards you wanted to fit into your deck, as opposed to being anything helpful towards shoring-up bad matchups. Specifically, i can’t see any reason for any of Cryptic Command, Kraken's Eye, Lone Revenant, Spellskite, Stubborn Denial, Swan Song, or Telepathy. It just feels like a collection of other needless counterspells… you want to be running flexible cards that deal with decks that threaten you - like Damping Sphere for Tron/Storm, graveyard hate for Murktide/Dredge, Engineered Explosives for Rhinos/HammerTime, etc. The exact cards you’ll need will be entirely meta dependant, but if you know what you’re likely to face i can give you some suggestions.

I think 20 lands is fine with 20 cantrips, but what you’re building doesn’t lean well into a control archetype - your creature quantity and spell selection lends into wanting to play a fast tempo based game. There’s nothing wrong with that, but it does suggest that you should dial-back a bit on your quantity of counterspells. Personally i’d say to just run Counterspell and not any of the other counterspells.

hiiii on I'll Just Play During Your Turn

2 weeks ago

Hey! I'm trying to look into interesting 1CMC counterspells you could replace Remand with. Mana Tithe, Spell Pierce, Miscast, Swan Song or An Offer You Can't Refuse could be interesting, tho they all have different drawbacks. If you want to stick to 2CMC, I'd say Dovin's Veto and Counterspell are always good options. The former is noncreatures only, but it is uncounterable, and the latter of course costs so it's harder to cast on multicolor.

As for other cards, perhaps Lair of the Hydra could interest you. It's very similar to Celestial Colonnade, except you can make it bigger if you've got the means to do so. Sadly it's only, but it can enter untapped if played early. Upsides and downsides.

Apart from that, I don't see anything I'd personally change in your deck, it seems really solid!

If you want to add insult to injury you could always play Teferi, Time Raveler. If you're looking for creatures that are harder to get rid of, you could always get Gideon Blackblade. You could also run The Wandering Emperor for flavor points.

Hope this helped! It's awesome to see an older deck still being worked on 6 years later :D

Squirrel_of_War on Toxrill, The Corrosive

1 month ago

Hey man, got a few suggestions for you. If you want to bring this to cEDH level you'll probably want to add Thassa's Oracle and Demonic Consultation/Tainted Pact and every low cost tutor so you can close the game out within the first 4 turns. You'll also want more fast mana like Chrome Mox, Mox Diamond, and of course Mana Crypt. I would add more low cost counter magic like Swan Song. Might also try Necropotence to draw into your win early if you don't have a tutor.

Grind on Grand Fortress of Protection

1 month ago

Absolutely, happy to offfer thoughts. Also in general i prefer any of Arcane Denial, Swan Song, Disallow, Delay, or Void Shatter over cancel.

TheOfficialCreator on atraxa super friends

1 month ago

Treasure Cruise --> Swan Song?

Oath of Teferi is also good.

Aminatou, the Fateshifter + Bioessence Hydra + Spark Double makes an infinite trample creature and each piece is good on its own.

What specific problems do you have with your mana base and instants?

SniperFrog on Oona

2 months ago

Alright. So there's a couple things I would change, but I don't want you to think it's better or anything, just what I would do. I'll give budget suggestions and non budget suggestions so you have a variety of choices without hurting the wallet.

I think I would go for mono blue so I can get Bruvac the Grandiloquent's effect in my command zone. It seems actually nutty to just be able to get this guy going. That being said, I like a lot of the black spells you have here, namely Mind Grind and Nightscape Familiar, so I would consider something like Phenax, God of Deception or maybe Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker to stay in dimir. Not really sure the red is helping much at all, though. Only four red cards is a bit of a bad look, though they seem cool in theory. I've never played any of them, so I don't really know how good they actually are.

So there are a few optimizations I would consider as well. Three mana rocks are a bit slow for my tastes and there are a lot of decent options at two mana, I'd recommend Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone and Arcane Signet to name a few cheaper options. There's also Sapphire Medallion, Chrome Mox and Mana Vault, though those are strictly non budget.

More optimizations for interaction seems good here as well. Maybe drop some of your three mana counterspells for some one or two mana spells. Counterspell is a mainstay and at very good price as well. I like Swan Song, An Offer You Can't Refuse and Drown in the Loch in this slot. There are a plethora of non budget options as well, particularly free counters like Force of Will and Force of Negation or other heavy hitters like Mana Drain and Cryptic Command. Plenty of cool things to do with this, however, so you have options.

Your lands look rough. I personally will always go with untapped lands with so many options, but that can get really pricy, really fast. Of course, if you didn't have to worry about a red splash, your landbase gets A LOT better.

If you're having trouble with hitting enough lands, consider lowering the curve a bit or even adding a couple more to try to smooth things out. I generally try to have around forty-two to forty-five mana sources, though my curves are usually around 2-2.5, so you might want a little more than that, maybe. I don't know. That's something you can figure out with playtesting.

Now comes the fun part. As it stands, including the above mentioned cards, I would try to find room for these:

Into the Story for some card draw.

Leyline of the Void or something similar like Planar Void along with Helm of Obedience mills infinitely. Also pretty good to beat the eldrazi triggers if you see these things regularly.

Rhystic Study and its baby brother Mystic Remora are both excellent card draw spells with humongous upside, though they are both getting a little on the expensive side now, with Rhystic pushing forty or fifty bucks.

I like Bitter Ordeal, but I think this is kind of a pet card that I want to make work, so I might be projecting here. lol

Reanimate effects seem VERY strong here. I like the ones that target opponent's graveyards the most, so I would stick with Animate Dead and Dance with the Dead along with the aforementioned reanimate. Didn't think about this at first. Could be really sweet.

Mesmeric Orb is money in these decks. Gives mad inevitability.

Altar of the Brood and Altar of Dementia are both combo pieces, but I feel like they're more build arounds than good on their own.

Folio of Fancies. I've never seen this card before, but I love it. Seems like it would fit nicely.

Tome Scour and Brain Freeze are insane with Underworld Breach but this is another build around that pulls you more into storm than mill, I think. Still maybe worth thinking about.

Sands of Delirium seems sweet.

A few draw X spells could be just what you need. Stroke of Genius, Pull from Tomorrow, Fascination and Prosperity come to mind. Skyscribing also seems sweet, but I'm not sure how good it is.

Some cards I would just outright cut:

Gravepurge, not positive what this is doing for you, beside gumming up your draws. I guess it can get something back but not sure it's relevant. Hard to say without playing the deck.

All three mana rocks. Darksteel Ingot, Dimir Cluestone, Ur-Golem's Eye, Hedron Archive are a few. There are actually a few more than I thought, so maybe cutting all of them isn't the right thing to do unless you are cutting like for like for cheaper rocks.

Grisly Spectacle, I feel like you can get a better removal spell. I see the appeal, but I feel like it will get at most six cards milled maybe. Something like Feed the Swarm is probably just better or Drown in the Loch which hits two birds with one stone.

Countermand. Four mana counterspell seems like a really hard ask. I know it's on theme, but something cheaper is probably just better. See above for suggestions on cheap counters.

I would maybe cut some other, stuff, but I feel like I've already given you a lot to think about. Love the list. I'm excited to see it once you've had a chance to keep tuning it. Follow for sure. :)

GrimVeracity on Neera Wild Mage Copy Deck

2 months ago

lego22499 this seems like a very fun and explosive Combo/Copy deck! I think the key to cracking/breaking Neera, Wild Mage is going to be focusing on lower CMC ramp and interaction without jeopardizing Neera's ability. She can be a tough cookie to crack but one idea that comes to my mind is adding some cheap early game interaction that you aren't necessarily disappointed to hit with the Neera later in the game. Another way to aid in this struggle may be to run a higher than usual land count considering you may not want to be hitting many low CMC ramp/rocks with Neera's abillity and would rather hit the lands to get closer to something BIG hiding in your deck plus it wouldn't hurt to draw some extra lands early... especially Utility lands or lands that have a Cycling ability as this could help with draw if you start to flood out. That's the best I've got for now but I'll give it some more thought as well as feature the deck and maybe you can get some HOT tips from EDH players more familiar brewing around Storm, Combo, Copy, Ect. Anyways cool deck looking forward to seeing how it develops!

Low CMC Interaction

Chaos Warp, Pyroblast, Pongify, Rapid Hybridization, Reality Shift, Swan Song, Peek, Gitaxian Probe, Snap, Prismari Command

Cycling Lands

Remote Isle, Smoldering Crater, Lonely Sandbar, Forgotten Cave, Desert of the Mindful, Desert of the Fervent

Utility Lands

Castle Vantress, Mystic Sanctuary, Wandering Fumarole, Skyline Cascade, Halimar Depths, Soaring Seacliff, Faerie Conclave, Moonring Island, Cephalid Coliseum, Magosi, the Waterveil, Spinerock Knoll, Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep, Ghitu Encampment, Madblind Mountain, Hanweir Battlements  Meld, Kher Keep, Hellion Crucible, Reliquary Tower, Wasteland, Strip Mine

MEINEID on Generic Dragondeck

2 months ago

Thank you for your feedback. I saw your lost tomorrow morning and wanted to comment on your deck since then. You might be right with your suggestion because if i can't trigger ferocious there is probably nothing to protect. I ran Stubborn Denial instead of Swan Song first, but maybe An Offer You Can't Refuse is the worst out of the 3...

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