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Counter target enchantment, instant or sorcery spell. Its controller creates a 2/2 blue Bird creature token with flying.
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Swan Song Discussion
2 days ago
@bushido_man96: Hmph. I guess that is an understandable case of yours. Very well. It's in. Negate should be a no-brainer also, but I'd look silly if I didn't run it in any Based deck that doesn't run also ( Dovin's Veto would be a better choice IMO, though Negate is just fine also.) Ironic I haven't used Disallow for quite a while, I liked it. & a 2/2 Flier is only marginal as a downside. So the following other stuff will be added. Anything else not noted will be explained why:
Counterspell : The Golden Answer; in the form of a famous quote from The Phantom Tollbooth: Why not?
Foil : Losing one life is a minor draw back, but EXILING a card also? I apologize for this, but this is why I wanted to know how Rashmi, Eternities Crafter can recur Exiled stuff. I wish I could ask someone about this while Rashmi is still Tier 2... Discarding 2 cards at least means there is potential of some kind of Recursion Engine, Is also cheaper to even HARDCAST, & you don't need Riftsweeper to get your exiled stuff back. That, & I'd prefer Mana Drain Force of Will anyway. It also sucks that Riftsweeper isn't a Human; she's a damned Elf. Crap.
Arcane Denial : Well, I guess I could punish someone for having a hand in the first place... Tee-Hee…~
Disallow : Wow. How fragging long has it been since I used this? If there is any better; Most likely not, I replace this.
Negate : The Silver Answer as I parody The Phantom Tollbooth: Because Dovin demands you to, or you will be detained. XP
Ah, whatever. I think that should be good enough; I already mentioned why Force of Will doesn't make the cut. Now, after I add these, I think it's time to chop some Theros Glop...
2 days ago
Why Arcane Denial ? Because its a frickin' counterspell, and you asked for counterspells. And it costs 2 mana. So many people playing EDH get so damned worried about their opponents getting cards. But if they build their decks with half a brain anyways, they are going to get cards. Yes, Arcane Denial is pretty much card disadvantage. But you counter something that you didn't want to happen.
4 days ago
So you get infintie mana, then what? you're not really running any clean lines to actually just win the game. Walking Ballista + Conjurer's Bauble / Reconstruction is a good mana outlet that actually finishes the game. You also have loops you can form with Narset's Reversal and Timetwister to let you make infinite bird tokens with Swan Song .
You have quite a few expensive to cost cards which don't really add much to the deck - Blinkmoth Urn , Mycosynth Lattice , Ugin, the Ineffable and even Myr Battlesphere don't add enough value to the deck to warrant a spot IMO. Cards like Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal on the other hand provide the deck with a very fast an efficient infinite mana outlet with Urza.
5 days ago
Kynical: Yes, You want to cascade into Extract , then Timetwister , then Noxious Revival (which resets the loop) in that order. And if you hit the cards out of order, just choose not to cast with cascade.
As for the Timetwister loop with Swan Song , I'm guessing you would first run Timetwister and Noxious Revival with Lotus Petal to generate infintie mana which is unconstrained, and then execute the loop with Swan Song in hand which can counter (insert spell here) which you're using as birb fodder.
6 days ago
Kynical: The loop uses Extract as you can't cascade with The First Sliver at instant speed (which you need to make the Swan Song loop work). Remember that the mana generated from Food Chain is only accessible to cast creature spells.
1 week ago
fent Swan Song / Comeuppance for Mana Drain/Teferi's Protection. Scheming Symmetry / Diabolic Tutor for Vampiric Tutor/Imperial Seal. Prismatic Lens for Mana Crypt. I honestly can't think of anything that can replace Rings of Brighthearth ...probably something you'd have to save up to get eventually. For the lands, I would just replace them with the fastlands and basics. Hope this helps.
1 week ago
Swan Song is a good commander staple.
Arcane Denial is a good cantrip counterspell.
2 weeks ago
@ shadowmage When it comes to Aetherflux Reservoir consider this: at any point in the game where you will be going off and Reservoir would win you the game a dozen other less mana intensive options would also win. The card serves no utility purpose beyond winning the game as life gain in cEDH typically isn't relevant. And any opening hand in which you have it instead of something like Swan Song or Rapid Hybridization is going to be opening hand you are likely to have to mulligan. Using it in any cEDH deck at this point is typically a mistake as you sacrifice deck efficiency, consistency, and interactivity. A mana intensive dead card in 99% of situations is not a card you want to run against the most competitive and well tuned decks in the format.
Swan Song occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.02%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.17%
GU (Simic): 0.98%
UR (Izzet): 0.83%
UB (Dimir): 1.11%
WU (Azorius): 1.57%
WUB (Esper): 0.78%
GWU (Bant): 0.59%
BUG (Sultai): 0.77%
UBR (Grixis): 0.82%