Creature — Nightmare
Pay 2 life: Surveil 2. (Look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them into your graveyard and the rest on top of your library in any order.)
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Doom Whisperer Discussion
12 hours ago
Cool concept! Here are some of my initial thoughts and comments after reading through the list a few times.
I really don't like Blood Speaker . A 4 mana 3/2 vanilla that tutors a demon to hand for 4 mana everytime - if it let you tutor one onto the battlefield it might actually be playable. I would cut all of these.
The main issues I see with the deck are your disruption package. I would add more efficient removal like Lightning Bolt and Fatal Push over a lot of your Go for the Throat s and Terminate s (I'd leave 1 Terminate for Murktide decks). Grim Return doesn't seem super great either.
I'd also include hand disruption in a playset of Inquisition of Kozilek , since I assume Thoughtseize is out of your price range. Discard is just a staple in any black midrange deck like this. While these cards might be a little more expensive than the other cards in the deck, Bolt/Push/Inquisition are all modern staples that can slot into most red/black decks and are unlikely to lose their value anytime soon.
Mark of the Oni is cute, so if you really have fun with it in the deck then of course that's fine, it just doesn't seem very good because the best time to drop it is earlier in the game to survive and you can't really play it early game. The only cheap demons I could find are Dream Devourer and Scourge of the Skyclaves which could slot in if you want to keep Mark of the Oni. Only run Scourge if you are running a playset of bolt though. If you have the money for Scourge I'd definitely get it, although it's pretty expensive.
Since you have Skirsdag High Priest , you probably need some lower costed creatures. While Fetid Imp fits the theme, its really bad. I'd cut it. Honestly something like Dark Confidant would be great here since you can tap it to Skirsdag and it gives you some much needed draw power, but it's really expensive. I can't really think of any other good 1-2 cmc black creatures that fit the hell theme (except asmor but she doesn't count lol), but there are definitely some good ones out there.
Some other devils/demons are Sin Prodder (need that draw engine?), Desecration Demon , which gets really brutal with Archfiend of Depravity, and Doom Whisperer . I'm sad that Master of Cruelties probably doesn't fit here since he's my favorite demon.
3 days ago
Thanks for the suggestions!
- For Disinformation Campaign , this is one I keep going back and fourth on in place of Notion Rain , and so far I've just found NR to be a little bit more effective for us, drawing us one more card, triggering our surveil-matters creatures one more time, and being able to be flashed-back with Mission Briefing , but I'll keep testing and see if DC isn't the correct play instead.
- Drown in the Loch is one on my radar, but without much in the way of dedicated mill, I'm just afraid it will be a dead card too often. If I find that's not the case and I'm usually filling my opponents graveyard quicker than expected with cards like Thought Erasure , then I'll start working a few copies in.
- Fatal Push is a fantastic card and would easily swap with Tyrant's Scorn , but doesn't fit with our budget unless we wanted to cut more Doom Whisperer s or start playing taplands.
- Eliminate 's slightly easier casting cost and ability to hit planeswalkers is an attractive alternative to Tyrant's Scorn , but I really like TS's flexibility to bounce larger creatures later in the game, which is a far more common occurrence than sub-4 mana planeswalkers at this price point. It might be worth making room for in the sideboard, and definitely to keep in mind in case I start seeing an increase in walkers in my local meta.
1 week ago
Hey, well done so far, there's good dunegon flavor here, but I think you can push Sefris more as a better source to venture into the dunegon.
Both of Sefris's abilities can trigger on your opponents turns since his first ability says once each turn therefore consider taking more advantage of a creature going into your graveyard on your opponents turns? Sefris's ability also says from anywhere which means that a creature doesn't have to die it can be discarded or mill into your graveyard to trigger. Here's some cards and interactions that can get a creature into your graveyard during your opponents turns.
- Discard: Tortured Existence
- Self-mill: Doom Whisperer + Haunted Crossroads
- Dies: Reassembling Skeleton + sac outlet such as Viscera Seer
Tortured Existence is one of the better cards with Sefri that has interaction for repeatable venturing and reanimating creatures when you have completed a dungeon. This one drop can trigger Sefris for one mana on each of your opponents turns by discarding a creature card and then recurring a creature. Then on the next turn discard that creature and recur the creature you discarded last turn. For one mana on each players turn you can loop discard and recur the same two creatures to trigger Sefris to venture. Also on opponents turns if you complete a dungeon you get to reanimate on that players turn which is powerful instant speed reanimation that Existence helps with by being able to discard a creature you want to reanimate.
Doom Whisperer 's surveil 2 for the cost of 2 life can be activated on each opponents turn. Surveil lets you choose any number of cards you looked at to put them into your graveyard thus choose at least one card hopefully a creature to trigger Sefris. Haunted Crossroads pairs with Whisperer as a way to repeatedly trigger Sefris for one black mana + 2 life by first putting a creature from your graveyard on top of your library to then surveil away.
Reassembling Skeleton + Viscera Seer is a creature/sac interaction that you can do on opponents turns because you can reanimate Skeleton for two mana. Seer could be replaced with any other sac outlet, the better ones don't cost mana to sac a creature.
If interested I offer more advice including cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Primary Recommendations: Doom Whisperer - Angel of Deliverance - Archfiend of Spite - Chancellor of the Annex - Demon of Loathing - Overseer of the Damned - Skyline Despot - Terror of Mount Velus - Sower of Discord -
Secondary Recommendations: Backdraft Hellkite - Demon of Wailing Agonies - Angel of the Ruins - Emeria Shepherd - Exquisite Archangel - Herald of Anguish - Resolute Archangel - Thunder Dragon - Tyrant's Familiar - Adarkar Valkyrie - Angelic Guardian - Angelic Skirmisher - Burning-Rune Demon - Goremand - Mordant Dragon - Rakshasa Debaser - Sower of Discord - Subjugator Angel - Valkyrie Harbinger - Anya, Merciless Angel -
1 month ago
Looks like pretty sweet deck!
Some cards I think that could help here aswell:
Vilis, Broker of Blood - a bit mana expensive, but should be totally worth the card draw from life loss.
Doom Whisperer - another big demon just for that could help to filter your library and drain your life at the same time at instant speed.
Dream Devourer - Im still trying to play around this little guy, but so far its not bad to protect some combo pieces to cast them later.
Emergence Zone - In my opinion this is pretty sweet utility land just to give your spels Flash until end of turn, possibly sneaking out Repay in Kind, etc (?).
Marshland Bloodcaster - probably a bit slow without Haste, but should work just well.
2 months ago
I am not sure your build interacts well with other decks. Putting infinite combos in a deck that runs a high curve can make short games feel bad for your group. It’s really easy to pull off and IMO should stay in the high power only section of Elder Dragon Highlander decks. If you keep it in here, you should fully commit and lighten your curve a lot. You can make it incredibly efficient in terms of card sustainability and compete in a high powered meta. If you take out Demonic Consultation , you can keep oracle in and try and win with her ability because you self milled yourself well. I also think you’d be able to roll w/ drake + Deadeye Navigator combo, it’s nowhere near as feel bad as fish combo.
I would also take out your 9 drop and commit to a better removal spell, even if it’s blue.
I also recommend adding the surveil demon guy so you can fill your grave yard quick. Doom Whisperer
I am actually working on one of these builds, gonna make it strong but keep combos away. I think Araumi is capable of doing great things.
4 months ago
The progenitor of angel in magic is serra so she made them in her image. And I wouldn't say demons look masculine for the most part Griselbrand doesfor sure. But many like Doom Whisperer you can't tell
4 months ago
You could consider Doom Whisperer because it's a strong card by itself and it would let you mill yourself at instant speed in case your graveyard is empty when the Offspring's Revenge trigger is about to happen.
Drakuseth, Maw of Flames would be an excellent 1/1 to bring back since it would attack right away and wreck havoc on your opponent.
It's 2 cards that did a lot of heavy lifting for me when I ran a similar deck that was also built around Kaalia, Zenith Seeker .