Creature — Demon
Pay 2 life: Surveil 2. (Look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them into your graveyard and the rest on top of your library in any order.)
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|Guilds of Ravnica (GRN)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Doom Whisperer occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
All decks: 0.28%
Doom Whisperer Discussion
3 weeks ago
You should try running Ponder and Preordain -- they belong in any blue deck, including this one. They may not look like much, but they're banned in Modern for a reason. In that vein, I usually don't recommend Brainstorm for decks not playing fetches, but I think it's fine here since your general can mill off the cards you put back.
Dorks. I notice you're not running any one-drop mana-dorks. You should run some. It's hard to beat the rate of ramp they provide, and late game you can Victimize or Dread Return some or do whatever you want with them. Seriously, they're absurd. Consider at least four of the following: Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Arbor Elf, Deathrite Shaman, Elves of Deep Shadow and/or Birds of Paradise.
Similar to dorks, Utopia Sprawl and Wild Growth are good methods of ramping. It's worth noting that since they're not creatures they won't trigger your general, but if you're running Arbor Elf they may be worth including anyway. Carpet of Flowers is good, but it's rocketed up in price so IDK if it's worth it rn.
There're some pieces of permanent-based disruption you might find helpful. You're not running much in the way of artifacts with activated abilities, and if you choose to run dorks you can cut Golgari Signet. That would let you run things like Collector Ouphe or, if you really wanted, Null Rod. Narset, Parter of Veils is a great card, especially if you run Windfall (which I think you should even if you don't run Narset, Parter of Veils). Depending on your meta, Ashiok, Dream Render can be a powerhouse.
Since I've never played this specific build, IDK how long you spend with a full graveyard. If it's more than one or two turns in the course of an average game, consider Splendid Reclamation. If you can return four or five lands with it, that's a big swing your next turn.
Doom Whisperer seems like a fine creature to run.
Lim-Dul's Vault is a good instant speed tutor.
Right. That's all I got.
1 month ago
Okaaay, now that I've had a chance to think about things and take a look around I've got some more thoughts. Somehow I managed to forget the new Ashiok, Ashiok, Nightmare Muse, who's a definite bae if you go in for that sort of thing. Thought Erasure is great disruption spell and four copies would really not be too many! Mission Briefing could be an interesting one-of that acts as another copy of whatever you need, and at the very worst would give you Surveil 2. Considering how deep you're going on said mechanic you might want a pair of Enhanced Surveillances - did serious work for me at the set pre-release and gets exponentially better if you jump on the Creeping Chill/Narcomoeba train! There's also good interaction with Syr Konrad, the Grim who will drain your opponent when you surveil your own creatures, make your opponent discard theirs and when you activate the second part of Enhanced Surveillance. Nightveil Predator is cool but mana intensive, so honestly I think you're better going one further in Doom Whisperer or Konrad. Connive / Concoct is a beefy surveil card but probably better for the sideboard along with the other two copies of Deadly Visit and Unexplained Disappearance (plus maybe Doomfall?). Almost at the end now, but I'd add Drowned Catacombs to strengthen the mana base and perhaps some of the Eldraine land cycle, and even a single Arguel's Blood Fast Flip considering you've mentioned how low your life gets!
1 month ago
Pretty solid, though I'd personally look at getting the full set of Sprites and an extra Blood Operative, dropping the Whisper Agents. I'd also say you could happily drop two or even three lands considering how low to the ground you are. Other cards to looks into would be Doom Whisperer, Sinister Sabotage, Unmoored Ego, Ashiok's Erasure, Ashiok, Dream Render, Creeping Chill and Narcomoeba.
I know this is for Arena, but here's some ideas for an exile-based Dimi control deck for Pioneer that Thief of Sanity would fit into:
OR if you want to see what this archetype (originally Dredge) looks like in Modern:
Though I'll admit that this second line my own thing and I've strayed a bit from the norm..
1 month ago
The deck looks good but it is too slow for the meta. Aggro decks are probably going to destroy you (especially mono red) and you are very vulnerable to board wipes making the white/blue control a hard matchup as well.
I would personnaly cut all 4 copies of Nightveil Sprite because it is way too slow for little upside.
An interesting idea would be to add 3 copies of Cauldron Familiar, 4 Witch's Oven and 4 Emry, Lurker of the Loch. You only need 1 cat in the graveyard to keep sacrificing it to the oven, emry is a very good card that does what the deck wants and can get the oven back from the graveyard and the oven/cat combo is very good against aggro. The cauldron also as other upsides like preventing your creatures from being exiled from banishing light (for the shepherd). It is just an idea though, it might be bad because emry is also quite a slow card and the cauldron and cat doesn't synergise very well with the rest of the deck apart from energizing with themselves. I think it is worth a try though.
Also I think Ashiok, Dream Render is worth considering as well. Oh and Doom Whisperer can be an insane finisher, if you surveil for a long time with Creeping Chill and probably kill them if you have Devourer of Memory in play (instant speed removal would be a disaster though).
That being said I really like the idea of the deck and been thinking about building something similar for a while.
1 month ago
Hey, Worldgorger Dragon combo could replace Iona. Emergence Zone could replace Sanctuary. Reanimation is a good secondary strategy with Kaalia and reanimation is what enablers Worldgorger combo. Bogardan Hellkite can be a win condition with the Worldgorger combo and Kaalia can cheat Hellkite onto the battlefield. The Worldgorger combo would give you an alternative way to win the game which has synergy with Kaalia and strategies you want to play with Kaalia.
Cards to consider adding for Worldgorger combo:
- Enablers: Necromancy, Dance of the Dead, Emergence Zone
- Win Conditions: Bogardan Hellkite, Sunscorched Desert, Cut / Ribbons
Other cards to consider adding:
- Phyrexian Reclamation: repeatable recursion for Kaalia so she doesn't have to keep going to the Command Zone. Combine the repeatable recursion with hand/wheel discard to have more access to putting big creatures into your hand to cheat them onto the battlefield with Kaalia.
- Dark Ritual
- Faithless Looting
- Buried Alive
- Arcane Signet
- Exotic Orchard
- Forbidden Orchard
Cards to consider cutting:
- Seraph Sanctuary
- Dragonskull Summit
- Clifftop Retreat
- Isolated Chapel
- Iona, Shield of Emeria
- Archfiend of Depravity
- Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
- Lord of the Void
- Angelic Arbiter
- Baneslayer Angel
- Merciless Eviction
- Duelist's Heritage
- Strionic Resonator
- Utter End
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Some cards that I use in my Meren deck that I get a ton of mileage out of:
Birthing Pod - Not the cheapest but if you've only been playing for 1-2 months and you've already got Grave Pact, etc. it should be in reach. Great to tutor up/upgrade to the next creature of need while building up exp counters. Eldritch Evolution is a cheaper one shot of this.
Noxious Gearhulk - Removal and lifegain on a decent beater.
Doom Whisperer - Cheap flyer that can fill your graveyard with creatures to recur.