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Looter il-Kor Discussion
3 days ago
I haven't been playing with or against this commnader yet. But it's one that floats on my list too.
Without looking at cuts, I would seriously consider these cards:
- Devastation Tide
- Isochron Scepter
- Careful Study
- Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip
- Dramatic Reversal
- Mana Leak
- Phantasmal Image
- Looter il-Kor
- Gitaxian Probe
- Dark Confidant
- Sygg, River Cutthroat
- Wharf Infiltrator
Enough food for thought :-)
4 days ago
1 week ago
Nice respond time XD. Anyways I am thinking the following:
Circular Logic : Awsome, this makes you so much more dangerous to play against.
I agree with you entirely on your engine choices; since they are so vulnerable perhaps a couple of Dive Down s might be used main or side board if you think your not able to keep your engines alive long enough. I really like the survivor duo btw the more I look at them.
Drop an edict and a duress perhaps. That way you keep your disruption and removal fairly at the same level. 4 Brain Gorgers the second and third game can do terrible things. Because at worst its a no flashback edict. Best its a 4/2 for 2 slamming your opponents face. YOu want to be aggressive with this deck and this card is aggressive.
Ehhhhhh Careful Study is a poor mans Faithless Looting . Still it is a one drop discard 2 outlet. so perhaps a 2 of or one of main board? You could drop a Sign in Blood but I'm not really sure which is the right option. As to Looter il-Kor YES. A one or two of that can really help you loot through your deck. No clue what you would drop help. Perhaps one of each survivor? Thorn of the Black Rose is an EPIC draw engine and blocker.BUT WHAT TO DROP?!
I hope this helps a little but there are too many ways to tweak this deck. My suggestion is to just pick things that ENHANCE your combo through their synergy with said combo. Otherwise you are going to build a entirely new deck (which is not a bad thing.)
1 week ago
Thanks for the nice words and feedback! I'm honestly not sure what's up with Circular Logic . I tried changing the printing but it still shows as an illegal card despite it definitely being pauper legal.
I was just talking today with some people who suggested putting in some cycle lands, I wasn't sure if it mattered whether they are Barren Moor or Lonely Sandbar . I will definitely do that though. Makes them way more valuable in late game.
I had thought about Putrid Imp and Aquamoeba but both are pretty vulnerable to ping (amoeba opens up when I activate its ability) and I liked the relatively more hearty Dragoon with the evasion it gives. I settled on Oblivion Crown as the alternate/supplementary engine since it can allow Cunning Survivor and Grisly Survivor to become even more threatening while being a little more difficult to remove (at least that's my inexperienced thought).
I really like the idea of Gorgers for applying pressure but I'm just not sure what to take out for them. Maybe I don't need Duress and Divest in the sideboard, so I can move some removal (of which I have a lot) and put the Gorgers in.
I'm also wondering if I should have some way to draw. Something like the Careful Study I have in the maybe board. It's why I was also considering Looter il-Kor . I've also kicked around the idea of a Thorn of the Black Rose for the draw that comes with Monarch.
Sorry for the lengthy reply and thanks again!
1 week ago
thank you for your interesting, I'll write from now on the changes directly in the updates-window. If someone is reading this, I compare this deck with "The Many-Faced God" - [[Primer]]
Enhanced Surveillance performs in this deck very well, because I've put many cards with the Surveil-ability in it. The second ability of this card is also useful in an emergency case like any effect is going to exile all graveyard cards. If those cards go back into the library it isn't the worst, for sure better than getting away from the game. This card is no power-up, but I like it a lot and with many Surveil-cards this enchantment fits in this decks strategy. I don't see this card in your deck, you have a lot of cards to loot cards like Looter il-Kor , Key to the City ,.. and not so much Surveil-cards. In my opinion Enhanced Surveillance needs many Dimir cards with the named ability. This is just a fine difference between our decks, guess it's not worth to skip any other card for this specific one.
Yes, Telepathy is awesome, especially in this control-fancy playstyle. In commander we know that we can't counter everything (and that's for so many reasons really good!) so this helps a lot to get advantage in the game. I recommend this card a lot. It doesn't do anything on it's own, but not only you can see other players hand. Each opponent may get suspicious too when seeing any other opponents cards. I see this card in any deck which has a passive strategy.
In my deck there are of course many possible upgrades, but I'm not interested to rise up the power level to a 9 or 10 of 10. First it's hard to achieve, second those decks have a very strict game plan and last I like to play anything interesting like Thief of Sanity , Mnemonic Betrayal ,... Recently I changed some cards, hope it does work well. One card I try is Dark Confidant over Phyrexian Arena , because of a very low average CMC and the Confidant is in addtion a creature card too.
I'm monitoring your deck as well and I like it as a really good reference. To your question of which cards I'm considering at the moment: Perplexing Chimera , Dimir Doppelganger and Psychic Intrusion . I've put in Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver to force the deck theme in a specific direction.
1 week ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. Do you own the cards that are in the maybeboard? There's several there that are much better than cards in the main deck.
Consider building this Dimir deck with Sultai in mind? If your goal is to play Sultai with Tasigur or Muldrotha later on then my advice is get playable cards that you can use in those decks, but for the time being get blue, black and Dimir cards and play them here with budget good stuff self-mill/reanimation strategies. Good stuff being playable spells especially creatures who have good ETB (enter the battlefield) abilities. Tasigur and Muldrotha use self-mill strategies not opponent mill strategies. Tasigur and Muldrotha abilities only work with cards in your own graveyard. Self-mill is much more powerful than opponent mill in multiplayer Commander.
Budget cards ($5 or less each) to consider adding that you can use in Sultai with Tasigur or Muldrotha later on:
- Command Tower
- Exotic Orchard
- Reliquary Tower
- Sunken Hollow
- Underground River
- Fetid Pools
- Sol Ring
- Talisman of Dominance
- Fellwar Stone
- Mystic Remora
- Smuggler's Copter
- Frantic Search
- Buried Alive
- Stinkweed Imp
- Careful Study
- Thought Scour
- Fact or Fiction
- Forbidden Alchemy
- Stubborn Denial
- Champion of Wits
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Looter il-Kor
- Thief of Sanity
- Peregrine Drake
- Gonti, Lord of Luxury
- Hostage Taker
- Nightveil Specter
- Rune-Scarred Demon
- Nezahal, Primal Tide
- Phyrexian Delver
- Viscera Seer
- Treasure Cruise
- Dig Through Time
- Dark Petition
- Animate Dead
- Dread Return
- Reality Shift
- Imprisoned in the Moon
If you like this idea then I can further help you to change this deck to make it easier to convert it into Sultai later on, but for now still being a good Dimir deck with Scarab God as Commander. Let me know your thoughts, good luck.
3 weeks ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.
Consider expanding on the strategy of little creatures with evasion especially flying and adding extra turn spells? All my card suggestions will be budget ($5 or less each).
Cards to consider adding:
- Yavimaya Coast : ETB (enters the battlefield) untapped to make blue or green mana, great with so many one drop creatures.
- Botanical Sanctum ETB untapped turn one to turn three to make blue or green mana.
- Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive : makes all your creatures with 1 power or toughness unblockable.
- Hope of Ghirapur
- Artificer's Assistant
- Cloud of Faeries : untap two lands is great with lots of one drop creatures.
- Scryb Sprites
- Zephyr Sprite
- Faerie Miscreant
- Mausoleum Wanderer
- Looter il-Kor
- Llanowar Elves : mana dorks are nice for ramp and can become unblockable with Tetsuko.
- Elvish Mystic
- Eternal Witness : recur any card from your graveyard.
- Beast Whisperer : more good repeatable draw when casting so many little creatures.
- Skullclamp : most creatures here have 1 toughness making Clamp great backup draw.
- Unified Will
- Regrowth : recur any card from your graveyard.
- Karn's Temporal Sundering : works well when Edric is on the battlefield.
- Walk the Aeons : most expensive price card I'm suggesting, but the buyback is very helpful. It's not exiled after cast, it can be recurred.
- Part the Waterveil
Can add all these cards for about $30.
Cards to consider cutting:
- 4x Island
- 3x Forest
- Archetype of Imagination
- Jhessian Infiltrator
- Skyrider Patrol
- Tishana, Voice of Thunder
- Counsel of the Soratami
- Desert Twister
- Explosive Vegetation
- Venser's Journal
- Curious Obsession
- Curse of Verbosity
- Gaea's Anthem
- Kodama's Reach
40 lands is a lot of lands when playing so many one drops. Most of these possible cuts are draw spells. These spells are fine, but I don't think you need all of them because you have Edric. They can be replaced with more low CMC creatures to make Edric better. I also think extra turn spells give you more than these draw spells as well as other high CMC cards. Having an extra turn to attack thus draw again is very good with the strategy of attacking and drawing with Edric.
Good luck with your deck.
3 weeks ago
It is a fun theme, for sure. Since you've put Ramos as the commander, an on-theme card you might want is Dragon's Hoard . Fixing and a cantrip as soon as you cast Ramos? Yes, please. Bonehoard and Kothophed, Soul Hoarder are both good and on-theme, too.
Trash for Treasure and Treasure Nabber could be good if you incorporate an artifact theme, and if you want to go deeper on the graveyard, Treasure Cruise goes well with Trash For Treasure and Bonehoard if you want to fill the graveyard.
Faithless Looting is always good, and Looter il-Kor is a pet card of mine. Merfolk Looter is okay, as well. Smuggler's Copter might be stretching the theme, but Thada Adel, Acquisitor is both flavorful and fits the theme and an artifact subtheme.
It's not a great mana rock, but Gold Myr helps you splash white, and the flavor is spot-on, same for Silver Myr . Secrets of the Golden City is an underrated commander card, and you shouldn't have much trouble turning on the city's blessing. Again, if you put in some graveyard shennanigans and looting, Tasigur, the Golden Fang is as greedy as they come. Debtors' Knell goes well with graveyards and control, too.
Villainous Wealth just oozes flavor.
Increasing Ambition is pretty good, especially if you're going for a combo finish.
Looter il-Kor occurrence in decks from the last year
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