Seton, Krosan Protector
Legendary Creature — Centaur Druid
Tap an untapped Druid you control: Add (Green) to your mana pool.
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Seton, Krosan Protector Discussion
1 month ago
1 month ago
There is a couple of good options. You can try to use green and red and play Wort, the Raidmother but that will be a lot spells and just a couple of creatures (you can play goblins, create token and then copy an Overrun ftw). Wort, Boggart Auntie is also a super good alternative because of the sheer power of black in EDH or you can play Grenzo, Dungeon Warden (there is a couple of super fast combo decks but also a lot of goblin tribal versions. Last but not least there is Krenko, Mob Boss that has various options to make infinite mana and tokens and swing for lethal but keep in mind that he will almost instantly draw your opponents attention... (either you win fast or they hate you out). I play Grenzo and Wort raidmother. Grenzo as Doomsday combo deck and Wort as a ramp/burn/token swarm durdle deck. They are both super fun to play and IMHO you can not do anything wrong when choosing one of the best tribals in EDH. Just the sheer speed of Krenko will probably make your opponents focus you instantly.You might also be interested in Druid tribal with Seton, Krosan Protector which plays like elfball and wins via Craterhoof Behemoth (super super fast deck) or Elfball (got some crazy win cons with Paradox Engine, Staff of Domination, Umbral Mantle ).If you did not play magic for a long period of time I would really check out other tribals if you did not do already.I hope I could already help you a bit. Feel free to ask questions :)
2 months ago
Link to Tolarian Community college on how to go about making an edh deck, was very helpful to me. I hope it will be for you.
Kamahl Imo can be a great piece or commander, for a commander deck.Personally Mono green druid ball with Seton, Krosan Protector is a place he can be pretty great.
2 months ago
Lets not go that far... She's still a 4 drop that can blow up all lands and pull dragons out of your hand afterward.
The better question is why she's not T2.5. We dropped her to T3 because she was at the low end of T2 and ".5 tier were never going to happen," but then we made T1.5 and T2.5 and never bumped her back up. I think it's pretty fair to say that Kaalia is about the same level of competitive as Anafenza, Bruna, and Queen Marchesa, for instance.
There's actually quite a bit that could be corrected about the lower tiers right now:
Kemba, Kha Regent could probably be dropped to T4
2 months ago
I have a pretty good Seton, Krosan Protector deck, that might be a good link for this list?
Check it out!
Commander / EDH
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3 months ago
Don't forget Gilt-Leaf Archdruid, Seton, Krosan Protector, and Llanowar Mentor if you're going Druid tribal. You might also want to check out Elvish Archdruid, Elvish Branchbender, Joraga Treespeaker, Kamahl, Fist of Krosa, Krosan Avenger, Mul Daya Channelers, Nantuko Mentor, Norwood Priestess, Nut Collector, Paragon of Eternal Wilds, Somberwald Sage, Squirrel Wrangler, Thelonite Druid, Thriss, Nantuko Primus, and Zoologist.
4 months ago
Wow, I haven't been on here in a few weeks and it seems like I missed a lot. (Apparently .5 tiers weren't never gonna happen?)
I'm not going to complain because it looks like it's given the top of the list more clarity and people seem happy, but I'd like to bring up some commanders that seem to have been overlooked during all this Upheaval. (Sorry, if any of these have been discussed, I did a cursory crtl+f before posting and didn't see anything.):
First off, the simple stuff:
Kaalia of the Vast, Titania, Protector of Argoth, and Teneb, the Harvester were all in Tier 2 fairly recently, and there was a lot of hesitancy about whether to demote them. Now that there's a Tier 2.5, shouldn't they be there instead of Tier 3? They are arguably more powerful than the entire rest of T3 after all...
(Either way, Titania needs a decklist. Here's my submission: Optimized Titania, Protector of Argoth)
Diamonds in the Rough. Overlooked Commanders in T4:
I've mentioned this a couple times, but Sachi, Daughter of Seshiro really needs to be promoted out of T4. The deck plays almost exactly like Seton, Krosan Protector (who is now in T2.5) and has the same explosive potential ("shaman-ball" instead of "druid-ball"). Should be promoted to T3. Here's a decklist:
Commander / EDH*
(I'm still tweaking the card balances, but this has been getting turn 5 kills consistently.)
Phenax, God of Deception: This guy is actually a pretty neat Self-Mill / Nooze combo / Doomsday commander. Way better than anything tier 4, but I don't think he makes it past tier 3. Check it out:
Commander / EDH
Bonus Round (a.k.a. I made some lists):
Commander / EDH
I took it upon myself to make an optimized Rakdos, Lord of Riots list (Cause I knew no one else was going to, lol). Rakdos's ability totally breaks NarejED's rule of counting low CMC's as a measure of competitiveness, but every time I've playtested it the deck has either won or gotten to a winning board state (giant army + MLD) by turn 5 or 6, which is not bad for T3. Enjoy.
I also made lists for our two under developed Simic commanders:
Commander / EDH
Mostly I just squished my HD combo from Hermits Make The Best Spies... Wait, What? into different designs. Ezuri wound up being more tutor heavy since the plan A for the deck was finding Sage of Hours (Infect is too slow for a main wincon IMO). Basically all of the tutors that find Hermit Druid also find Sage of Hours, so you just just race to 5 EXP and do HD if Ezuri gets messed with.
I'm starting to feel like every Simic or //X commander can be improved with a Hermit Druid plan if they don't already have something better.
I did also make a HD version of Rashmi, Eternities Crafter, but while I was doing that Rarian posted his list, and honestly I think his is better. Mine still works as a proof of concept, but the HD package is incompatible with High Tide combos because of the low island count, and the Hermit Druid doesn't mesh as well with Paradox Engine. (I did just playtest a T4 win by having Yisan and Mana Crypt in my opener, though, so that was cool.) If anyone wants to see the deck: Optimized Rashmi, Eternities Crafter.
I'm in the process of filling out the decks I've made for here with descriptions. If anyone has any feedback or criticisms, let me hear em :)
5 months ago
Lilbrudder: Hey! That card is 50 cents. Why are you telling people about it?
I've been saying this is great card for years. Nobody's listened to me, and I'd rather keep it that way. ;)
thegigibeast: Hope of Ghirapur is definitely going in Edric. (That really should have been the first thing I thought of, actually.) The fact that you don't need to tie up blue mana to cast it makes it strictly better than your average flying men, even if you don't plan on using the ability often.
After browsing the interwebs, it seems it's also great in Alesha, Feldon, and Ayli.
In other news, our cycle of mono-colored legends is complete with Kari Zev, Skyship Raider:
Who will be relegated straight to T5. Her expertise card is pretty lackluster as well. Sad, I always try to be optimistic about new mono-red commanders, and Pia was such a disappointment as a card...
There hasn't been that much else worthwhile in the spoilers, but what do people this of Lifecrafter's Bestiary as a green draw engine? Seems super good to move through your deck in builds like Seton, Krosan Protector, Sachi, Daughter of Seshiro (How have we STILL not moved this up to T3?!?!?!), and Rishkar, Peema Renegade, and it might have potential in creature based competitive decks like Momir Vig and Animar.
NarejED, I'd vote against demoting Darevi just based on other T1 commanders out-playing her. T1 commanders are supposed to be able to play around each other, they're the best of the best. There's always going to be a low and a high within the tier. If we can find evidence of a significant portion of the T2 commanders being able to outperform her consistently, then it's probably time to demote her, but until then it wont really make or break anything if she stays in T1.
I think Nin might be my new favorite home for Paradox Engine.
Previously, Nin's path to victory involved tutoring up the two card Rings of Brighthearth + Basalt Monolith combo, then using the infinite mana with Nin to draw your deck. With the addition of Paradox Engine however, all you need to do is tutor up the engine and have enough mana rocks to storm through your deck, significantly lowering the combo complexity.
The deck I linked isn't quite optimized, but it's good as proof of concept, and I'm going to make my own version over the next couple of days.