Seton, Krosan Protector
Legendary Creature — Centaur Druid
Tap an untapped Druid you control: Add (Green) to your mana pool.
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Seton, Krosan Protector Discussion
3 weeks ago
Hey, I love the discussion, but don't want to clutter @StopShot's page. I am someone who pioneered multiple of those Netdecks, which sort of makes the cEDH variants on the old Captain Sisay (I made the Seton, Krosan Protector/Mox Amber setup into my own version of a Bow of Nylea finish in the Paradox Engine lists, pre-ban) decks, as well as the Aminatou/Tezzeret line, the more popular current Yisan and multiple semi-popular new Sisay, Weatherlight Captain lines.
When it comes down to it, many people in the cEDH community work to optimize the lists other people (myself included) pioneer. Someone makes the shell, the combos, the innovations, the others metagame it, tune it for optimization, and though people take my combos, my innovations, I love what they do with them.
I've optimized lists too, Control Zur, various Consult piles, etc. I understand I am better at innovation. Assuming people that takes popular combos are net deckers is often incorrect, the cEDH community is small, and everyone I've ever seen or heard of has been tuning decks to their metagame. I don't know who you've met who honestly just netdecks, but many of my friends are amazing deckbuilders and players. Not to mention even if they 1 for 1 buy a deck whole, they can still innovate in playing.
@dingusdingo isn't someone I know particularly well. They have always been helpful, and after checking through their decklists, I found they (No idea if it was by coincidence, or they read my primer, or someone who was inspired by it) to show off my Prime Speaker Vannifar line, featuring Spellseeker -> Vitalize into Archaeomancer -> Disciple of the Ring in the description of his list, and Chakram Retriever as his (assumedly) go-to 5 drop untapper.
Both 5 drop lines were originally my (only, I worked with a group to make a working line for PSV in the hours following it being spoiled) innovations (Tidewater Minion was the original it was summoning sick however) on the cEDH list. Despite this, he innovated on top of it. I had seen the Ezuri pile brought up by @Soren841 (not sure if he pioneered it or was the one to find it fit in the shell) but the lines to get there weren't the exact same as any other lists.
This, alongside the goal of redundancy in untapping left the list still powerful, but simply more in the combo than the interactivity of the list. Testing this idea is the birthplace of innovation, no one I've seen goes into cEDH copying checklists, they are inspired by other pioneers and support the format. The best decks in the format and the best combos aren't all stolen, someone made them, they were improved time and time again, and many are being improved as we speak. Assuming that you know immediately how to beat them and assuming your opponents are too stupid to beat you is a fallacy, and the people you have gone against are either extremely bad cEDH players or people that don't understand the community and leech on it. I love this niche community. I don't respect your distaste for it, but feel that you've only met some bad cookies.
2 months ago
Note that after drawing your deck you will have some combination of Mobilize, Vitalize, and Benefactor's Draught. Playing all of the one-drops (and other low-cost minions) can help get you the mana to start going infinte.
Gilt-Leaf Archdruid is a good first option, taking your opponents lands removes most of their options
Helix pinacle is noteable (you can max out to win by your next upkeep if everything else goes wrong)
We can pump up our creatures using Leyline of Abundance, giving creatures infinite +1 +1 counters
Craterhoof Behemoth is the only card we have with haste, but it shouldnt matter as they wont have lands (Gilt-Leaf Archdruid), creatures (Thorn Mammoth + Vigor), artifacts or enchantments (Acidic Slime + Temur Sabertooth)
4 months ago
I feel like Seton, Krosan Protector should be in 'Competitive' as opposed to 'High Powered'. I have a tuned, but not fully optimized, Seton deck that consistently combos out turn 5 and my current list has the ability to combo as early as turn 2. I think there is enough support for it where it should fall into the Competitive category.
6 months ago
I just took apart my Tatyova druid deck, since the landfall fit wasn't great for what I really wanted to do, which was yoink. I think I'll be rebuilding with Chulane, Teller of Tales , though, before I build with a mono-green druid commander like Seton, Krosan Protector . The deck can still be heavy green, but for such a focused strategy, what you really need to be able to do is dig through your deck, and both Chulane's ability and having access to blue are great for that. You also get access to Tatyova, Benthic Druid , Rashmi, Eternities Crafter , Noble Hierarch , Bloom Tender (yes, I know you get it in mono-green, but you see how that doesn't matter), Faeburrow Elder , Coiling Oracle , and Wood Sage .
7 months ago
Recycle maybe? I play it in my Seton, Krosan Protector deck and it does a really good job. You already play Reliquary Tower and Crop Rotation so as long as you get the tower on the field after Recycle you don't have to worry about your hand size.
1 year ago
Big fan of this deck!
Have you considered Concordant Crossroads ? Apologies if so, didn't want to read through all the past versions though.
1 year ago
That’s another great point! I should’ve taken a second look at your basic land count before suggesting. I know what you mean about a list getting restrictive. Im at that point with a bunch of my decks it gets hard to cut some stuff. Thanks for the follow and suggestions! If I think of anymore I will gladly post again.
I have a land deck of my own with The Gitrog Monster . I like where it’s at but if you have some good suggestions I’ll definitely consider them. Also looking for feedback on my new Feather deck. If that’s not up your alley, then check out Seton, Krosan Protector if you have the time! All 3 listed below:
1 year ago
MagicalHacker I will keep an eye out for it! But I apologize, as I may have worded my last post poorly. The deck I'm tearing apart is Karametra which seemed slow/clunky as a ramp type general and I was contemplating building Marwyn, the Nurturer , Feather, the Redeemed or Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle .
Marwyn would be another ramp general but is much faster. She has the support of elves and can achieve infinite mana quite easily even without Marwyn which is nice. Seton, Krosan Protector was another thought but druids are a bit more limited and are mostly useless without Seton (aside from Gilt-Leaf Archdruid ).
Feather seems fun/easy to build but I tore apart my Zada deck which was very similar (granted it focused on generating tokens which is what my Purphoros deck did). Voltron isn't necessarily my thing (Both Rafiq and Karlov taught me this) so I will probably abstain.
Lastly, Arixmethes is the only one not like anything I've made before but that might be due to it's type/color. Can also easily go infinite green but seems slower than Marwyn. However he is in Simic colors which can enable more shenanigans. A 12/12 is amusing for general but non-sea creature themed decks are a little harder to come by!