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Delve (Each card you exile from your graveyard while casting this spell pays for 1.)
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Murderous Cut Discussion
1 minute ago
My affinity matchup has been fantastic so far, it's one of my more favoured matchups - g1 is draw dependent, since there are a lot of bad cards for the matchup, like Thoughtseize and practically all the card draw. G2 onwards should be absolutely fantastic, though.
With regard to split playsets, the deck started out with 4 Pack Rat, 4 Phyrexian Obliterator, 4 Collective Brutality, 4 Fatal Push 4 Thoughtseize and a 2 2 split between the 2 3 mana Lilianas. The reasons I cut down on the cards I did was simply that it was not good to draw as many as I did. Fatal Push is just not good in the matchups where it's bad, while in the matchups where it's good, Collective Brutality, Damnation, and Murderous Cut are all also quite good.
I could see it being correct to play more Gray Merchant of Asphodel, but the card is just so underwhelming when you don't have a good board state already, and opening a hand with Gary is just stone awful. I treat it as a Corrupt to finish the game; hence only 2 of. Besides, with all that card draw, finding a copy shouldn't be too hard!
1 hour ago
First and foremost--thank you.
Eternal Witness is a card that my brother keeps on encouraging, however, I have just felt that Snapcaster Mage at a grand total of 3 mana can do something like Fatal Push on the same turn it entered. Witness is a good card in general. I think it would be too slow here, but better off in a "combo-y" deck, with "pieces."
Tasigur, the Golden Fang is a really good card. On my description for the deck--you will notice there is a tab with "Deck Before Banning." It had 2-3 Tasigurs, with a couple of Hooting Mandrills, and Gurmag Angler. I have used it before and as you and many, many others pointed out--it is a "non-bo" with Grim Flayer, Snapcaster Mage, and Tarmogoyf. I was using the idea of these creatures all together, I had already noticed it, but players asked about how that was fairing with Delirium, and I was also running Murderous Cut. Normally I would consider the "Tas, Monkey, Fish" package, but I do not want to Relic of Progenitus my own strategy. It hurts badly; especially when they board in graveyard hate.
In regards to Enchantments/Artifacts--I have tested with a few things, Courser of Kruphix, Bitterblossom, Executioner's Capsule, Scrapheap Scrounger, Loxodon Warhammer, and even Batterskull. Unfortunately, if I were to use a different card type removal spell, it would have to be Executioner's Capsule, for the sake of at least a Turn 1 move. Unbridled Growth is strictly in this 75 to:
- Replace a card in hand and cycles through the deck.
- Caters to Delirium and Tarmogoyf without repercussion--at anytime, for free.
- Mana fixes and combats against Blood Moon.
Thank you for your suggestions. Hopefully I was able to clear up why there are no super extra value 1 drop 4/5 Delve creatures (with abilities) in this list. I would totally love to, if Grim Flayer was a base 4/4 (could you even imagine!) I will take you up on the Eternal Witness, however. Everyone keeps saying "witness", "witness."
2 hours ago
Murderous Cut has been performing exceptionally well. There are certainly games when I open with Cut and no fetches, but even then, given the number of instants and sorceries that are meant to interact early, Cut is always online by t3. Victim of Night, despite its near unconditionality, critically misses Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet, Gurmag Angler and Olivia Voldaren (funnily enough, Mutavault as well). That it can't be taken by Inquisition of Kozilek has been relevant, and furthermore, the immense tempo advantage generated by playing a threat/Arena/discard spell t2/t3 and then following it up with a 1 mana cut is simply too high to ignore.
5 hours ago
How did Murderous Cut works for you? I really hate drawing into at early states where I cannot cast it. Victim of the night and Fatal Push are better most of the time imho. A random one is fine I guess although I personally prefer not to rely on such requirements in the first few turns?
21 hours ago
Right but EVERY list started somewhere. I bet it was very scary being the first to pilot Lantern Control, Amulet Bloom, etc.
1 day ago
I understand the "thinking outside the box" type of idea but most netdecks and stock lists are popular for a reason... I don't know why you want Murderous Cut in the board, it seems so counter-intuitive.
2 days ago
4 Fatal Push and 3 Abrupt Decay are still a lot of "little guy" removal. Drowner of Hope and Reality Smasher can still give you a run for your money, I'll wager, not to mention Karn Liberated (Liliana of the Veil minus is a touch embarrassing against Walking Ballista/Matter Reshaper). Similarly in the discard suite, more Inquisition than Seize means that when you meet a deck that is trying to go big, you're not particularly well set up for the match.
Believe me, I understand that you have a potent sideboard plan with Fulminators, Extirpates, Ceremonious Rejections, and that ever so spicy Ashiok, but I am not sure that will be enough, simply because they might resolve one or two big creatures, and then it shall be a not very gg.
Murderous Cut can very easily be a t3 play. Say you have cracked two fetchlands and used one discard/kill spell by t3, which is very normal for a typical game. This means on t3, Cut costs 2, allowing you to kill something + cast Serum Visions/Thoughtseize. If you have done anything else, you can resolve a 2 cmc threat, and then play Cut for 1 (especially if you cast a t2 Jace). Cut's value lies in the tempo - you get to develop your board/disrupt your opponent while killing something else, and that is where it gets the nod over a straight up 3 mana kill spell.
4 days ago
Hi wraya2 and thanks for the comment,
Regarding the one-of's:
Collective Brutality is a bit more expensive (therefore less efficient) but more versatile than Thoughtseize / Inquisition of Kozilek. The same goes for Maelstrom Pulse compared to Path to Exile / Fatal Push.Therefore, you want a bit for the versatility but not too much to stay efficient.
Murderous Cut's efficiency is limited by delve, therefore I do not want more than one.
Traverse the Ulvenwald is a good filler but definitively a changeable part.