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Library of Leng
You have no maximum hand size.
If an effect causes you to discard a card, discard it, but you may put it on top of your library instead of into your graveyard.
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Library of Leng Discussion
1 day ago
Remove anything that doesn't say, "you may draw a card when a creature enters" or you might just deck yourself with your all-cheating. Momentous Fall, Soul's Majesty, or Life's Legacy could probably draw much better than Elemental Bond. With all the card draw this deck does, some redundancy with maximum hand size helps a lot. Spellbook, Library of Leng, Thought Vessel
I'm thinking a Brass Squire would be a nice inclusion, especially with some of my suggestions, or just because you move a lot of equipment around. Helm of the Host, can let you copy Grothama and have it fight itself for 20 cards drawn.
There are two big glaring weaknesses of this deck: Flyers, and removal. For removal best to worst: Beast Within, Song of the Dryads, Karn Liberated, Argentum Armor, Steel Hellkite, Spine of Ish Sah remove anything. Reclamation Sage, Acidic Slime, Bramblecrush, Woodfall Primus can slow down your opponents while building your board.
Never go without graveyard interaction, Tormod's Crypt, Scavenging Ooze, or Relic of Progenitus will put an end to the Spore Frog + Meren of Clan Nel Toth combo, Archaeomancer + Time Warp, and other shenanigans
Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar and Ulvenwald Hydra are both giant reach creatures that hang back on D. They can fight Grothama and live too, just be sure to Fog so they don't go attacking with 10 damage marked on them. Tornado Elemental, Whirlwind, or Hurricane can deal with your archetypal Angel, Demon, or Dragon, tribal decks. Alternatively, Deadly Recluse or Hornet Queen will make no one want to attack you
2 days ago
also trinket mage is just good. it tutors for sol ring and Sensei's Divining Top which is already good, it also tutors for all the moxen, mana crypt and lions eye, mana vault
but you usually only get 1 use out of it, if you run top and sol ring thats good enough to run tmage, it also tutors for Library of Leng if you run that
1 week ago
First off, this is not Standard legal. In fact, it's not legal in any sanctioned format--Sol Ring is only allowed in Vintage, and you're restricted to one copy. You should change the deck to "Casual."
This type of deck is most commonly found in Commander with Nekusar, the Mindrazer--quite frankly, I don't think it is a powerful enough archetype for a sixty card, four-of format, especially one allowing Vintage card, but I'll presume you know your meta better than I. Here are some suggestions:
Cut Howling Mind and Master of Cruelties. Without your damage-dealing cards, these are dead draws, helping your opponents as much as yourself. Even with one or two pain engines in play, your opponents will likely be quite happy to trade 1-2 life for additional cards.
Cut Goblin Fireslinger - it doesn't do anything for you.
If you add those above wheels, which result in discards, you could consider Library of Leng. You can discard the cards you don't want, but redraw the ones you do.
1 week ago
1 week ago
Cycling is a cost of an ability. Library of Leng won't work when you discard for a cost of a spell or ability.
1 week ago
if you cycle a card, let's say Hieroglyphic Illumination, and you had Library of Leng out on the battlefield would you draw and you chose to put Hieroglyphic Illumination on top of your library would you draw Hieroglyphic Illumination or would you draw the card that was on top of your library before you cycled?
1 week ago
Nahgg: I found Alhammarret's Archive to be much more powerful - not really because of wheels, but because cheap cantrips etc dig much deeper. I did try Library of Leng, but 90% of the time I cast most of the things I want from a given hand before I wheel it away, so Library doesn't help much.
RobsJourney: Honestly, this deck is more interactive and multiplayer-focussed than Avacyn every was. While I do like both of them, this is much more fun for me to play due to more complex lines of play and more interaction with spells on the stack.
2 weeks ago
Here's some advice based on my own experiences with Nekusar:
I don't like Howling Mine, Temple Bell, and other cards of this ilk. They seem like they should work, but, in my experience, they are more harmful than helpful. Cards like Howling Mine increase the chances of opponents drawing their answer to Nekusar, and then do not help you win once he has been removed. Instead of focusing on slow, passive draws causing victories, your focus should be on explosive plays removing as many players as possible.
Teferi's Puzzle Box is an absurdly powerful card with Nekusar--free wheel every single draw step!
Library of Leng negates some of the ill effects of wheels, allowing you to discard what you don't want, and keep what you do. You can engineer some powerful hands this way.
Forced Fruition turns their every spell into a death sentence.
Curiosity and Helm of the Ghastlord give you tremendous card draw. Both also go near-infinite with Niv-Mizzet, providing a strong alternate win condition. Ghastlord combos well with Nekusar, since they are forced to discard every card they draw.
Sigil of Sleep turns your wheel effects into mass bounce spells, tearing apart opponent offences.
Phyresis wins games quickly. Combined with a wheel, and you can end the game on the spot.
Imprisoned in the Moon and Deep Freeze can remove an enemy commander without forcing a zone change. As such, they're forced to just sit there on the battlefield in their transformed state, never being given the option of returning to the command zone.
Hope some of that helps!