Sword of Feast and Famine
Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +2/+2 and has protection from black and from green.
Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, that player discards a card and you untap all lands you control.
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Printings View all
|Masterpiece Series: Kaladesh Inventions (MPS)||Mythic Rare|
|Modern Event Deck (MD1)||Mythic Rare|
|Mirrodin Besieged (MBS)||Mythic Rare|
|Mirrodin Besieged: Mirran (MBM)||Mythic Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Mythic Rare|
Combos Browse all
- Aggravated Assault + Sword of Feast and Famine
- Hellkite Charger + Sword of Feast and Famine
- Alesha, Who Smiles at Death + Breath of Fury + Rogue's Passage + Sword of Feast and Famine
- Alesha, Who Smiles at Death + Breath of Fury + Sword of Feast and Famine + Whispersilk Cloak
- Autumn's Veil + Sword of Feast and Famine + Thrun, the Last Troll
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Sword of Feast and Famine occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.06%
Sword of Feast and Famine Discussion
1 day ago
Hey all! I've recently decided to let go of my Druid combo stuff, since I prefer a more Pod-like approach as opposed to all-in combo, so I have the following available:
Devoted Druid (Ultimate Masters)
Vizier of Remedies
Giver of Runes
Finale of Devastation
3 Duskwatch Recruiter Flip
Knight of Autumn
Birds of Paradise (2 M12, M11, Battlebond)
1 Silent Clearing
2 Walking Ballista
1 Ranger-Captain of Eos
3 Postmortem Lunge
1 Chord of Calling (M15, Russian)
1 Collector Ouphe
3 Veil of Summer
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben (Dark Ascension)
4 Restoration Angel (Avacyn Restored)
3 Wall of Omens
So yeah, I'm keeping the lands, Hierarchs, Eldritch Evolutions, and Pod stuff (you can't pry Voice of Resurgence or Kitchen Finks from my cold dead hands), but most everything else I have is fair game. If there's anything else I may not have listed, feel free to ask about it. I probably have it. :)
I'm looking for:
Sword of Feast and Famine
4 Ice-Fang Coatl
1 Spell Queller
2 Monastery Mentor (I have 1 Korean if anyone wants to swap their English one)
1x Cavern of Souls (preferable Innistrad, either printing is fine tho)
2x Selesnya Sanctuary
1x Hornet Queen
I will also binder dive, but my binder seems to show only the foil/promos?
4 days ago
Alright, in hypothetical Larryland where I am now in charge of making decisions, here is what I would do
First, establish criteria for the format
Shouldn't be too complicated, as there has already been lots of time spent discussing the format
- Bans should serve to stop certain combos or deckbuilding approaches from swallowing the meta.
- Bans should be justified off of power level for winning, not how fun or unfun the combo or style of deck is to play or play against
- General rules changes about the format should serve to open deckbuilding and allow for more interesting approaches to the meta and winning.
I think a couple rules changes should take place to open deckbuilding and allow more options, and allow cards to work as intended with the commander specific ruleset
- Commanders should hit the graveyard before returning to the command zone. This allows commanders like Child of Alara or other death triggers to actually function as intended while maintaining the command zone. Commanders should have the option of returning to the CZ at will from exile, the graveyard, the library, or a player's hand as an ability that doesn't use the stack, similar to mana abilities.
- Hybrid mana symbols should be perfectly legal as long as the hybrid symbols fulfill a color identity of your commander. For example, Boros Recruit should be legal in a mono-red deck. If a hybrid mana card has a mana symbol in the text box that it outside the color identity, it should still be excluded. For example, if Boros Recruit had a firebreathing ability for in the text box, it would no longer be legal in a mono-white deck.
- Restriction of the command zone to a single card. Partner commanders are still legal, but not legal to run them as partners in the command zone. Having a mix and match color identity and having guaranteed access to two cards at all times over one card is too strong. Bigger color identity means wider pool of cards to pull from, and the partner players are effectively starting with a 9 card hand as opposed to non-partner commanders starting with an 8 card hand.
Bans and Unbans
First, I would unban cards that the RC has banned because they are "unfun" or don't fit the spirit of the format
- Coalition Victory - If you can pull this off and cast the cost, go ahead and win
- Emrakul, the Aeons Torn - This costs 15 mana and channel is banned, this isn't going to break decks at all and most likely will only see play as an Ulamog alternate in Gitrog decks
- Erayo, Soratami Ascendant - This can be countered or removed or smart opponents can avoid triggering it. Once it has flipped, it is still removable although somewhat toxic. It definitely gets good mileage in EDH but people can play around this if they have even half a brain, which is what I would expect from competitive.
- Iona, Shield of Emeria - This is only banned now because Painter's Servant was unbanned. Certainly reanimator Iona strategies can cause problems, but hitting a 2 card combo for a soft lock isn't game shattering unless you are on a mono-colored deck, at which point it just becomes one of the things you must worry about. If Back to Basics and Blood Moon are totally fine for shitting on 3-5 color mana bases, I'm 100% fine with Iona for shitting on mono color decks.
- Library of Alexandria - I have no idea why this is banned in the first place. Most competitive decks are so tight on their land base and won't have a slot for this. Also most competitive decks wish to play spells on turn 1 and 2, which makes it harder to get the 7 in hand for the Library draw.
- Panoptic Mirror - If someone can assemble the ultra fragile Mirror + Free turn spell, and then gets an ENTIRE ROTATION of no one destroying it, I'm 100% fine with them taking infinite turns. Also consider that this combo basically costs to start, 5 for cast and 5 for the free turn. This card is banned because casuals absolutely loathe combos. Its unbanning could make Pox decks somewhat viable in competitive, and would be a boon to stax decks as well
- Primeval Titan - This card is a double tutor on ETB or attack, but its a double tutor for lands. If someone really wants to set up Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth + Cabal Coffers + Deserted Temple + Inventors' Fair (which fetches Rings of Brighthearth) then more power to them, as it requires either a blink effect or an entire rotation to THEN get the second set of tutors from attacking. Its big value, but honestly no reason for this card to be banned. It costs to cast
- Paradox Engine - the banning of this card made the format worse, as it knocked out tons of viable decks simply because "Too many casuals put down rocks and PE and oops into an infinite". The unbanning of this card opens up the format significantly, and allows weird decks like Hannah, Ship's Navigator or Dralnu, Lich Lord to be viable commanders, although definitely not tier 0 picks.
- Recurring Nightmare - Banned because of griefing almost 100%. Nobody likes being hit by some ETB creature that involves saccing or losing permanents, but it isn't fast enough to warrant a ban. It requires mana, AND a creature on the field, AND a creature in the GY.
- Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary - Selvala is basically a more powerful version of this because of the cantrips and you can play non-basic lands. This would probably become a tier 1 deck by basically copying the Selvala list, but I think the meta would be enriched from adding this as an alternate, similar to how Marwen has added instead of detracted from the meta.
- Sundering Titan - Banned because attacking a player's resources is seen as an unfun way to win. Its expensive to cast and not exactly game shattering when it enters.
- Sway of the Stars - This costs to cast for a weird Timetwister that sets life totals to 7. Sure there is potential for abuse with Suspend cards, but this costs 10 mana. Nobody is going to play this if it gets unbanned.
- Sylvan Primordial - Another board state changer that isn't really going to do as much as it looks when it lands. Sure, -3 permanents on board for opponents and +3 lands is neat, but it costs . Decks would rather win than assemble some blink or recursion loop for this card.
- Upheaval - This is banned almost entirely from a casual and time perspective. It makes games take longer. In competitive though, this card would be used with excess floating mana to THEN rip your combo. Almost definitely wouldn't see competitive play though, and the banning seems silly to me.
- Worldfire - If you can run a wacky suspend deck that abuses this to win, you have my blessing. It also costs to cast so someone will probably just win before you
- Yawgmoth's Bargain - This is a Necropotence that costs with the benefit of no-delay on the draws. If necro is legal, this should be legal.
My biggest reasoning for bans is that some combos are so strong and so hard to interact with that they become the go-to builds for certain color identities. When the optimal way to build 30 different commanders in the same color pairing is Flash Hulk, you have run into a problem.
- Flash - Arguably the worse part of Flash Hulk. Potential for abuse in a post-Hulk world with Academy Rector. This card has the potential for abuse with every single new creature printed. I don't think this card makes the meta more interesting, and I think it pigeonholes deckbuilding into "well why don't you run Flash Hulk, or Flash _". Flash combos are also difficult for other decks to interact with outside of Counterspell, which means when you're building for playing in a competitive meta, you are almost expected to play Blue due to how strong and warping this card is.
- Protean Hulk - Even with a flash banning I still wand this turd of a card gone. Finding hulk, reanimating hulk, and sacrificing hulk isn't interesting. There isn't very much skill there. The decks aren't interesting. There is a combo in practically every color combination for winning immediately after you get a Hulk trigger. It can be viewed as a 6-card into-play tutor, or a 5-card into-play tutor, etc. etc. I don't think the meta is more interesting or better for having this card be legal.
- Demonic Consultation and Tainted Pact - More boring and tired combo archetypes. Once again, tutoring for 2 cards and ripping the Consultation + Oracle combo doesn't really require much pilot skill, and it doesn't make decks more interesting to build. These cards are simply too efficient at what they do, and they are hard for non-blue decks to interact with meaningfully. The presence of this combo and Flash Hulk has basically relegated all stax decks to being tier 2 builds, as they have such an impossible time locking down these combos. The banning of these two cards and Flash Hulk would bust the competitive meta wide open. Also, between these cards or the Laboratory Maniac + variants in the combo, these are the cards that are way way way more degenerate than the other part of the combo.
- Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora - These are annoying and burdensome mono-blue staples that slow gameplay, and are auto-includes in practically any deck that includes blue. They function much better than intended due to the multiplayer nature of the format, and deckbuilding is less interesting and diverse because these cards are legal. They can singlehandedly run away with games when you have a single player in the pod who ignores them, and having your combo shut down because someone draw a Force of Will after getting 6 free draws is frustrating and extremely obnoxious. They also prop up extremely mediocre mono blue decks like Urza, Lord High Artificer and Baral, Chief of Compliance. Once again, I don't really think there is any skill in playing or building around this card, and the power level of "auto-include for any deck with blue" stifles deck building. Blue really doesn't need any help being good in EDH, let alone cEDH.
- Nature's Will and Druids' Repository - Targeted bans for Najeela, the other obnoxious tier 0 commander deck in the current meta. I'm not a huge fan of 1 card combos with commanders, because you always have one of the cards available at all stages of the game, and tutoring + playing a single card once again doesn't really speak to high skill or interesting deck building. The banning of these cards will peripherally splash and hit other decks, such as Edric, Spymaster of Trest, but I'm fine with that. Najeela and Edric will still have other options for executing these combos, such as Sword of Feast and Famine or Bear Umbra, but these are more mana intensive or more fragile combos with lower utility outside the combo.
- Tymna the Weaver - I have already advocated for removing partners from the command zone, but this card is so dummy strong as to be included in the 99 of other decks with some frequency. You can get the draws even if Tymna didn't attack (i.e. it just came in). You can get 3 draws a turn for the same mana cost as Phyrexian Arena, except that if done correctly you'll get the draws before you would get the Arena draws. This card is meta warping, this and Najeela are a big part of the reason the meta is so creature heavy right now. Decks either run this card, or they run ways to handle this card because a Tymna sitting on the board for 1-3 rotations gives such a fat advantage the pilot runs away with the game.
- Timetwister - A card that sees play because you save slot efficiency by spamming TT to create a loop of infinitely recasting spells, plus its a wheel effect for 3 mana that shits on decks assembling combos through the GY with cards. I'm totally hunky dory with high efficiency combos, but losing to a timetwister loop is boring, cumbersome, and takes the pilot 30 years to demonstrate and explain the loop to those who haven't seen it. Combined with the ridiculous price of the card, and the ridiculous powerlevel even outside the combo, this card should go. This is also another card that makes fast mana extremely degenerate, as someone going first and sticking Mana Crypt into Sol Ring into Chrome Mox into Timetwister feels extremely bad, and opponents don't even have the benefit of recurring their starting hand from the GY later on.
- Sylvan Library - The green Rhystic Study. Doesn't make decks more interesting. Doesn't make games more interesting. Its just cheap ways to get cards that becomes more ridiculous in the context of a format where you have double the starting life of the format this was printed for. The auto-include nature of this card means decks open up more when this card is removed.
- Lion's Eye Diamond - No, Razakats is not an interesting combo. No, bomberman is not an interesting combo. These are both degenerate and more shoe-horn "oh I need a combo to win" style combos. Bomberman is extremely degenerate as LED can be recovered in the face of targeted GY removal by simply stacking the Salvager trigger on top of the removal if you have extra floating mana, and pretty much the only way to really stop it is a replacement effect like Rest in Peace. Seeing someone play a bomberman combo then dump mana into their outlet from the CZ (whether it be Thrasios, Triton Hero or Breya, Etherium Shaper) isn't interesting, although I will admit it is fast. This card is much lower on my list of requested bans, but it is still there for how annoying Bomberman and razakats are, plus how easy this makes Doomsday piles.
- Hermit Druid - I want this gone for the same reason Consultation and Pact should go. Boring deckbuilding that becomes "UGx deck can run Hermit and Oracle to win", and thus you end up with twenty different UGx decks that look the same. Once you have seen this combo once, there isn't much merit to seeing it again. This card isn't as bad as Consult or Pact in my opinion, and once again it is a much lower priority for banning than those cards, as it requires a haste enabler to make it truly degenerate, or a way to flash it in at EOT before your untap step.
Cards I would avoid banning
As the title reads, things I think aren't a problem but usually draw comments for bans.
- Cheap tutors like Vampiric Tutor and Imperial Seal - Every single 1 CMC tutor goes to top of deck (besides Gamble and Steelshaper's Gift), which means you're -1 card advantage for casting them. Having the ability to assemble combos or seek a problem solving card doesn't blow the format out of proportion. Having players be able to assemble threats in a timely manner makes the format faster and more interactive. If you see an opponent tutoring, you know to hold up interaction or try to race them. I'm more interested in removing hyper degenerate combos that are hard to interact with or are resilient enough to win through interaction.
- Fast mana like Mana Crypt or Mox Diamond - If fast mana is banned, all decks will require Green for speed purposes from the high amount of turn 1 dorks (read: accelerators) available. Stax would become 100% dead as an archetype with these bans outside of Hatebear builds that include Green.
- Free counterspells like FoW or Pact of Negation - Keeps combo decks in check. Similar to how Force of Will keeps Legacy from being overrun by super speed combos, these cards also keep Commander in check.
6 days ago
As far as Syr Gwyn goes I think this is a pretty solid list and I like how you've managed to keep a low and very manageable average cmc. But I reeeeally don't like those bounce lands in here. I'm not a fan of those in general, but in this deck with only 35 lands total, they're going to be a liability for you.
You should also probably mainboard that Embercleave too. That should be your primary wincon in here since the deck is built for it. Sram, Senior Edificer and/or Stormfist Crusader could help with card draw. Those Talismans are a much better investment for you than slow bounce lands. Some other pseudo-ramp you could try are Explorer's Scope and Dowsing Dagger Flip. Or if you can afford them, Sword of Feast and Famine and Land Tax.
1 week ago
Thinking about adding in Sword of the Animist to help get us some lands.
I'd also like to add Sword of Fire and Ice, Sword of Light and Shadow, and Sword of Feast and Famine but these have proven to be expensive so will be added further down the line. Mana Crypt would also be added if I could justify spending $200. Maybe a future addition when I have a ton of store credit banked up.
If you have any suggestions I'd be happy to hear them, please leave justification for the suggestion.
1 week ago
@DespairFaction Hey PJ! Thanks for the feedback.
All the hatebears have been performing really well so far. Just having an early aggressive and evasive creature that can hold equipment and get the train going, the fact that it slows down opponents makes them great.
Captain Lannery Storm has always been a great card in my deck. Turn 3 when she comes out I can always seem to find a free attack that helps me ramp early on. Swiftblade Vindicator has been excellent as it holds equipment incredibly well. I don't think the low toughness has ever been a problem for me, so once again an early, aggressive creature is just what this deck wants. As for Wayfarer's Bauble (Commander's Quarter's echoes are heard in the distance) I've always liked how it can get a land. Drawing it late game is just like drawing a copy of Rampant Growth late game, something that never stops us from running it.
Winds of Abandon has actually incredibly overperformed in this deck. The floor of the card is a bad Path to Exile (which is still great) while the ceiling is a one-sided boardwipe that can only be protected against by a counterspell or Teferi's Protection. It's the white version of Cyclonic Rift. Not nearly as powerful, but I'll take one-sided exile board wipes any day. With that in mind, I really like all the pieces of removal I've got in this deck, what I really was talking about is that I want just one or two more slots I feel to get just a tad bit more instant speed interaction in the deck.
The draw power of the deck works really well. Outpost Siege has always been ol' reliable for me. The way I play this deck, a steady flow of a bit of impulsive draw every turn is exactly what I want. Commune with Lava,Prophetic Flamespeaker, and Light Up the Stage could probably get me more impulsive draw, but I don't like overextending in this deck, and I feel the Siege tends to be more reliable every turn. Tome of Legends does seem like it could be pretty good in this deck considering how often our general attacks. Let me know how that one works for ya.
The deck doesn't tend to struggle with other aggressive/stompy decks because of all the board wipes that are in the deck. I think Winter Orb probably works better in the weapons of war build than this build since the larger focus on equipment makes getting Sword of Feast and Famine easier.
The creatures are definitely the cards in this deck that I feel are most flexible. Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite is an amazing card, and I've definitely thought about picking it up and trying it before, it could probably swap places with Urabrask the Hidden. I really wanted Neheb, the Eternal to work, but every time I played it I rarely had anything to do with the red mana haha. All in all though I want this deck to be aggressive, so I don't want the top end of this deck to get too heavy, or I find my hands getting more and more clunky.
I do have to point out though that this isn't a deck meant to compete with cEDH decks. If you stuck it in a cEDH pod and have a strong, competent pilot really thinking about and making the correct plays, it would definitely seem really threatening to all the decks that aren't used to the aggression, but it could never win as fast as it relies on combat damage. I think it would sneak out 1 in 5 games in a cEDH pod. If we were to use the command zone deck rating scale, I would say this deck edges on the end of optimized, an 8.5 or so. I will say that adding back Helm of the Host would probably make this deck a tad stronger, but I took it out because I got bored of it haha.
So, TL;DR, I'm feeling pretty good about most of the deck, the creatures are the ones I feel best about swapping out, and I feel I want a few more pieces of instant speed interaction.
1 week ago
Further more Neheb, the Eternal can give somewhat of a second main phase sorda like what Sword of Feast and Famine would do. For this deck it is more important since most of the time you cast out before attacking to either create devotion or make a buff to your army with something like Balefire Liege.
2 weeks ago
Hey, so you mentioned wanting to combine the Angel strategy with the equipment strategy. As i talked about it, its complicated because both strategies compete for your available mana. To me this means that you need to outproducing everyone at the table mana wise. See the spreadsheet link, its much cleaner. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r4BxQRmpuJOj8vWkxTC2YA9J8rvR7eXMeCM75dgUeu4/edit?usp=sharing
In: The single most important card you can add is Sword of Feast and Famine, some other really good options are Dowsing Dagger Flip, Neheb, the Eternal new neheb is definintely worth testing out Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion, and I think Walking Atlas will be helpful with the 4 cards you have the dig for lands. You will also want multi producing mana rocks likes Worn Powerstone, Thran Dynamo Hedron Archive, and i think Inspiring Statuary is worth checking out as well. Other things to look at, Id probably try out Mana Geyser as it can do some riduclous stuff and it might be alright because of the life gain Treasonous Ogre. Long story short way more mana. Also, add 2 lands. Dont ever miss a land drop.
Overall your mana production count right now is 17 cards, which is good so I think it will be largely about improving the quality of those cards.
Out: Knight of the White Orchid, its fine for certain decks but feels meh for this one. Mind stone out, need multi producer, coalition relic out, trading colored mana for multi mana. Some other stuff that I would cut is Recruiter of the Guard doesnt seem right for this deck, Vandalblast youve already got Hour, Austere, and mutliple other ways to blow up artifacts, meta dependent of course.
Another thing to think about is which 7 drops you are running. The ones you have right now are very good for you. The 2 you are missing is Chancellor of the Annex and Angelic Arbiter which make it really hard for your opponents to win. Again your current picks are solid, but its the difference between good stuff for your team, or bad stuff for your opponents.
I think id also like to see 1 more piece of protection for your creatures. Lots of options here with no clear right answer. Legion's Initiative is good for a lot of things, but Eerie Interlude, Brought Back and others also have merit as well.
Ok take a look at the spreadsheet changes. Note that these changes will increase your mana curve, however it also increases your mana production by leaps and bounds. So if you things stick, you should be able to cast multiple cards around turns 6-8. If you find things are getting clunky, cut a 5-7 drop and add a 2 drop, repeat until the deck performs to your liking.
3 weeks ago
Ok, so lost to Tolsimir, Friend to Wolves, not awesome, he really matches well with the fight though. I did manage to win all the other rounds, but seeded low right off the start, so didn't face too many difficult decks.
Switch Spike Feeder to Heliod, Sun-Crowned + Walking Ballista line that has a win-con instead of just infinite life, which is useless. This combo is CMC9 so it's not functional without further rework of the mana ramping. Can break it up, CMC3 for Heliod, Sun-Crowned and then CMC4 + CMC2 for Walking Ballista and Lifelink, but thats still CMC6.
Infect will still be line 1, refine some synergy around that.
Add infinite draw combos with The Great Henge and cats, likely Whitemane Lion + Aluren but there must be others. Fleetfoot Panther isn't too exciting, but we'll see, there are a few other cats like Fleetfoot Panther, only take on cats that don't suck as well.
Have to find a way to build combos with a cat, need a T1 solution? in selesnya? I don't want to take it Stax, would rather figure out how to stay combo.
I can't see any equipment changes other than the boots coming back in. Greater Good might come out if no combos with it, but I do like it for the draw, so maybe not. I've been looking at Rafiq of the Many and Uril, the Miststalker but don't see that as the right way to go, think the equipment package is correct. Sword of Feast and Famine still presents the challenge with Pro-green, but none of the other swords give me pro-black without pro-white/pro-green that are any good.
Need to get creative, might start a Arahbo, Roar of the World discord, hmm, need to brainstorm. We need some good white cards in commander, and some really high powered cats. Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist and Leonin Relic-Warder the only really functionally played cats.
Thats the plan, lots of thinking and building synergies to work through. I'm playing it as is again (no Heliod and Ballista) this weekend again to try and get an evaluation of what is working. Strengthen the infect a bit too.