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Sensei's Divining Top
: Look at the top three cards of your library, then put them back in any order.
: Draw a card, then put Sensei's Divining Top on top of its owner's library.
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Sensei's Divining Top Discussion
19 hours ago
I think Sensei's Divining Top works best with cards that use the top cards of your deck as a resource like Oracle of Mul Daya. The next best thing to be running with it, in my opinion, are fetches that allow you to shuffle away 3 irrelevant things on the top.
I can't think of a deck it wouldn't help in but it fits better in combo decks that have room for "good-stuff support" slots rather than synergy or theme decks where it may compete with cards that better fit the theme or have stronger synergy at a much reduced price tag.
That being said, I can think of 3 EDH decks that I currently run that would love a top.
19 hours ago
I know Sensei's Divining Top is a great card - everyone knows that. But how do you decide whether or not to run it in your Commander deck? How many shuffle effects do you need? What colors do you want to run? Does every deck want one? What do you guys think?
22 hours ago
It does repay you the unconveniences, yes, but it sucks being drawn too early or being the only land you have left to tap for the X mana you need right this second. It will be in my consideration, but I believe it won't come back to the main deck fast.
Tell me how the Quest does if you ever use it. I can't play for the next several days and can't playtest enything. Your input will differ I think since it will have to be on the field much more turns than mine.
1 day ago
Interesting that you've taken Intet down a Dragon-deck path, instead of going with a more traditional dragon commander like Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund or Scion of the Ur-Dragon. I can see the benefit of using her to cheat your creatures out for just three mana.
There's a lot of potential here, but it all depends on how much money you're willing to invest to improve the deck. I have a couple of creatures to suggest that might improve your deck: Dragon Broodmother (she's pricey, though) and Savage Ventmaw. Ventmaw and Hellkite Charger have their own infinite combat combos, by the way. Ventmaw goes infinite with Aggravated Assault creating infinite mana in the process, and Hellkite Charger goes infinite with Sword of Feast and Famine while also producing infinite mana so long as you have at least 8 mana available through lands. If you object to using infinite combos, I appologize, but I want you to be aware that they exist. As for cards that can leave the deck, you only have 10 sorceries, so unless you really think you get a lot of value out of it, Hypersonic Dragon might not have a place here. I also don't see the purpose of Dack's Duplicate in the context of this deck.
Since you have so many dragons, you could also include some tribal stuff and some other banner effects that could help. Just to name a few, I know of Shared Animosity, Crucible of Fire, Sight of the Scalelords, and Door of Destinies. With the high number of creatures you have, you can also run Lurking Predators; that will make your opponents think twice before they cast spells.
There isn't much here to synergize with Intet herself so that she can be more consistent. To do so, we're looking for cards that can protect Intet and manipulate what she exiles off the top of the library. Unfortunately, doing this also requires some money... I'll give you the list and see what you think: Sensei's Divining Top, Sigiled Starfish, Soothsaying, Jace, Unraveler of Secrets, Saheeli Rai, Stormcaller of Keranos, Index, Brainstorm, Darksteel Plate, Whispersilk Cloak, and Clout of the Dominus.
I have a Karrthus Dragon Tribal deck of my own that you can refer to for inspiration. It's Thunder of Dragons. I'm also contstructing an Intet deck with a different strategy, which you can find with this link: Do Dragons Dream of Blazing Sheep?
1 day ago
This deck is missing its key card: Paradox Haze.
Other suggestions are as follows:
Strionic Resonator, Fork, Twincast, and Wild Ricochet.
(Strionic Resonator copies the trigger of "At the beginning of the upkeep".)
As for cutting. That's the area of expertise I am unfortunately horrid. Best of luck!
4 days ago
Hey Peanut3181 thanks for the comments.
I agree, it's possible, but it's not really working. I'm building (separately) a prototype of this deck, which I'll import. I'm re-evaluating each card for it's 1) Mana Production value and 2) It's storm count interaction. I feel without the Storm there is not enough consistent win-con. Trying to figure out which ones are the best, haven't done a full analysis yet. It feels like Ignite Memories is good, and Grape Shot. Mind's Desire is kind of interesting too.
Any idea which one, or which couple I should be running? There all Sorcery. Grapeshot feels like it may not have enough power to eliminate all opponents in 1 shot, where Ignite Memories has some potential? I do play spells which is why Mind's Desire can be a big concerning.
Once I have my analysis done I'll update it. Removing a bunch of creatures, and only using combos and synergy that also aid in my storm counts as well. I'm going to get the red ramping Mana Geyser and probably Seething Song in there too.
Another issue I'm having with the deck is with getting going. I'm used to my Kaalia of the Vast where I'm setup on turn 2, 3, 4 and winning on turn 6. Playing Melek, Izzet Paragon I feel like turn 9 I'm still waiting and somewhat defenseless. I've had some success defending with Cyclonic Rift and Snap with some flashback and copy early on, but I feel it needs to ramp faster.
I think this is because of your recommendation that I need more drawing, but not sure which way to go, Visions of Beyond, Gitaxian Probe or larger draws. I'm going to pull a list to list comparison with your build and see which ones I'm missing. Telling Time maybe?
What's your opinion on Izzet Charm, I find it nice because it's modular, but a few games now none of the modes helped me in so many situations. Scrub it?
Sensei's Divining Top has been great at utilizing Melek, Izzet Paragon once he is out, but what other good options are there? Deranged Assistant was kind of like hmm because he helps with mana production, but the isn't that awesome, would be better.
Any other ways to keep my top decking going smoothly?
4 days ago
Sensei's Divining Top can set up your mills.Curse of the Bloody Tome gives you mills. Nephalia Drownyard. Psychic Spiral could become a wincon. I have 50 cards in my graveyard. You just drew a bunch and now your library is gone. Dreamborn Muse mainly the self mill at your upkeep. Genesis hand recusrion.
5 days ago
Gavony Township has been a great card in my Trostani deck. Elspeth, Sun's Champion is an allstar. I also like Garruk, Primal Hunter. Surprised not to see Triumph of the Hordes for that surprise kill.Expensive to cast but Increasing Devotion is stellar with things like crytolith rite. Flashback is always a great thing in commander.With things like Sylvan Library or Sensei's Divining Top cards like Entreat the Angels means crazy amount of angels (and life) when you want it most.