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You may tap or untap target permanent, then you may tap or untap another target permanent.
Cipher (Then you may exile this spell card encoded on a creature you control. Whenever that creature deals combat damage to a player, its controller may cast a copy of the encoded card without paying its mana cost.)
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Hidden Strings Discussion
shaistyone on mill
3 days ago
The major issue I'm seeing is that you don't have any way to deal with your opponent if they get going. You need some mass bounce, boardwipe, something.
Other than that, I don't get why Hidden Strings or Invisible Stalker are in there. Now, Whispering Madness would make sense if you want to Cipher something.. :)
5 days ago
I highly disagree. You don't need that much card draw, and will often either get Gifts or Harmonize, then storm out the following turn, whether that's t3 or 4. I've considered adding Ideas Unbound back into the list, but so far I'm not convinced it's right. Thanks for the response though, and I will look for any card draw I can find that would work well in this deck. Personally, I think I currently have too many untap spells and have been considering cutting Hidden Strings to a 2-of, so adding some more card draw is a possibility I'm am comfortable with. Thanks!
Btw any ideas for the SB? I've been working on that very thoroughly, but I can't find the right balance.
1 week ago
Tried posting too many cards so it wouldnt let me suggest all of them. here were the others
Also one more combo i forgot to mention:
Also for what it's worth i'm not a fan of Umbilicus or Blood Clock. Feel like all they do is slowly drain everyone whereas what a blue control deck wants to do is to have the game go long, then either combo out or play a large threat that people can't answer. You don't have as much aggression so your life total s going to be lower than your opponents meaning you'll die first. And i've foind when you play cards like Umbilicus or Blood Clock people get annoyed at you and it makes them want to attack you more often.
2 weeks ago
In the same train of thought, which I was mentioning to another Shu Yun player:
- Augury Adept
- Balefire Dragon
- Blinding Angel
- Cephalid Constable
- Dragonlord Ojutai
- Grenzo, Havoc Raiser
- Sphinx Ambassador
- Daxos of Meletis
And if budget is not a problem, the sword cycle (e.g. Sword of Fire and Ice) are good aditions.
Then add cheap cantrips (e.g. Ponder) and you are relatively set.
3 weeks ago
I like your assortment of spells here! I have a deck built around Shu Yun as well and I struggle if Shu is taken off the field. I'm curious how well your deck does, and if you have considered either Hands of Binding or Hidden Strings as additional ways to get your Commander damage through.
3 weeks ago
Sorry it took me a while to get back with you guys.
Daring Apprentice I like your use of cards for draw power and card advantage, thanks for sharing! I have added a Command Tower and Mystic Monastery, I'm not sure why I didn't have them in the initial build lol. And I'm also totally using Kaho, Minamo Historian, she's awesome! I'm planning on using Jori En, Ruin Diver for card draw, he's pretty great. Especially with my low curve. My card advantage is going to be different from yours though, I'm wanting to be able to survive late game so my card advantage is taking form in cards like Frost Titan, Homura, Human Ascendant, and Yosei, the Morning Star. I don't want to have a bunch of high costing cards, I'm planning to try to keep it to 9 or 10 total. I'm also still wanting Thassa, God of the Sea, I just haven't picked her up yet.
Hey back Beio53! I have looked at cipher spells. I've got a Hidden Strings set aside, I'm just trying to figure out where I want to slide it in! I also enjoy the Hands of Binding. I feel like they would pair beautifully with my other tapping abilities, I'm just trying to figure out where to put them. I'm not sure how I feel about the Jhessian Balmgiver, it feels pretty fragile to me. I have been thinking about Mistfire Adept for a while, in addition to an Elusive Spellfist (I LOVE his art), and a Mystic of the Hidden Way. I like the Spectral Flight a lot but funny story; I'm actually wanting to cut my number of enchantments down to make room for a few more creatures while keeping my instant/sorcery count high. I'm not sure what I'm going to do quite yet honestly.
1 month ago
Hero of Iroas has been removed for just sitting around and not doing his job. Phalanx Leader was hired because of his solid resume. Hands of Binding and Hidden Strings were removed because I can't keep pretending this is a control deck. Sage of Hours has now been there from the beginning since I guess he controls time, so he can do that. I also added an extra Ethereal Armor and replaced Seachrome Coast with Glacial Fortress. I'm pretty happy with the deck right now, but still open to suggestions.
1 month ago
Ey UnleashedHavok, I like the unblockable synergy you've got going here. Since I've got a lot of artificial prowess from my yasova deck, I think there's some interesting pieces you could use. First of all, Leering Emblem is perfect for shu since you'll have basically triple prowess but for your creature spells as well. Also, I see that you like rebound spells like Emerge Unscathed. Have you looked into any cipher spells? They're sorceries to trigger your prowess then they become a pseudo enchantment on a creature that recast themselves when they deal combat damage to a player: Hands of Binding to tap a creature for two turns, trigger prowess and double strike, swing with shu, and the first strike damage will trigger another free casting of it for more prowess boost in your normal combat damage. Hidden Strings is incredibly versatile and cheap. To be totally honest, I'm not sure that you need to worry as much about defense if you can tap the board out with these effects but that's your decision. Also, for a steady source of flying/evasion, Jhessian Balmgiver, Mistfire Adept, or Spectral Flight are cheap and EFFECTIVE options. I see Quiet Contemplation and Niblis of Frost in your suggestions and maybeboard: cannot sing their praises enough in a prowess deck. Anyway, love shu and he's right there with Rakdos, Lord of Riots for my next deck build. Hope to see how it progresses!