Creature — Spider
Undergrowth — When you cast this spell, reveal the top X cards of your library, where X is the number of creature cards in your graveyard. You may put a green permanent card with converted mana cost X or less from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
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Hatchery Spider occurrence in decks from the last year
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Hatchery Spider Discussion
1 month ago
Good start. I think Spiders can be pretty scary when they get set up. The real advantage of this tribe is the defense they offer, making it very hard to attack you.
You are really low on lands. I think 36 would be a minimum, but 37-38 might be ideal considering how slow spiders are. I would recommend Oran-Rief, the Vastwood to make your spiders bigger. Bojuka Bog could also easily make an appearance here. A few more dual and tri-lands to smooth out your mana wouldn't hurt, either.
You're missing a few spiders I would consider important, notably Silklash Spider, Spider Spawning, Arachnogenesis, Hatchery Spider, Nyx Weaver, Jungle Weaver (cycling and a fatty is nice) and Blightwidow. There are also the anti-flying spiders Oran-Rief Recluse and Stingerfling Spider that will often have good targets. In a format where Lightning Greaves is a staple, I like having access to Acid Web Spider.
In terms of synergy with Thantis, Obscuring Haze seems great, Crawlspace seems good at directing combat elsewhere, and Sight of the Scalelords gives your team vigilance and they also get pretty beefy.
In terms of cuts, I would start with the large amount of tricks you are playing. They are okay 1v1, but start to look a lot worse in multiplayer. Some number of Dark Dabbling, Undying Evil, Without Weakness, Kaya's Ghostform, and Minion's Return would be fine.
You also have a series of instants and sorceries that don't offer enough value in my opinion, such as Crash Through and Pyretic Ritual. Explore won't work too well with only 32 lands, either.
I would also think about cutting Viper's Kiss and Atarka's Command.
I don't know if you mistook her for a spider, but Xira Arien is an insect. You could be playing much better card draw instead of her.
Hope this helps!
5 months ago
triproberts12 thanks for the tips! So far the league budget hasn’t seemed to leave anyone too overpowered, but I’d definitely bring it up with my group if it became an issue.
As for the some of the more high-costed cards like Hatchery Spider and The Mending of Dominaria, I’m a little hesitant to add some of them because there are some more control based decks in my league, currently Nekusar, the Mindrazer and Emry, Lurker of the Loch. I also considered adding some other persist creatures like Puppeteer Clique but I can’t fetch them along with the rest of my combo pieces with Protean Hulk but I do like the idea of them for late game so I’ll just have to start testing some of them and see.
5 months ago
Isn't this backwards of how these leagues normally work? I thought the winner is the only one that doesn't get the budget bump, so the most powerful deck doesn't snowball.
Anyway, Mindwrack Harpy is the most pushed intro deck card I've ever seen. That's my first add.
I also like putting in more creatures with ETB effects. It's kind of awkward that you'll want to tap mana dorks for Hogaak. Glowspore Shaman, Golgari Thug, Crow of Dark Tidings, Gamekeeper, and Mire Triton can all help get Hogaak out by turn 3 if you have a good turn 1 play.
There are a lot of good gold cards in BG graeyard stuff, too: If you have anyone that's relying on indestructibility, Drown in Filth is a good budget option to feed your graveyard. If you're built around Hogaak, I'd think it should regularly be a hard removal spell with upside. Nyx Weaver is just a great card in any graveyard deck, and cheap, too. Jarad's Orders is a good double-tutor. Underrealm Lich is worth the $2, in my opinion. I would also ask yourself whether Eternal Witness is $3.50 better than Acolyte of Affliction/Golgari Findbroker/Treasured Find. Storrev, Devkarin Lich didn't get much fanfare, but the power and price tag are there.
Animist's Awakening is good value at just over $1. World Shaper and Splendid Reclamation are a little more expensive, but higher impact than other $4-5 cards I see in the list. Lower on the ramp ladder, note that Harrow and Springbloom Druid put a land in the yard. Funeral Rites isn't a bad draw spell for this deck. Same for Winding Way, Gather the Pack and Relentless Pursuit. Syphon Mind doesn't have much to do with the theme, but I start with it in most of my black value decks. Dark Deal could be very good, especially if your draw power is maximized and you can use your yard as a second hand. Greenwarden of Murasa is just a powerful card. Same for Phyrexian Delver.
Some other general budget cards for considering: Ransack the Lab, Corpse Churn, Dead Reckoning, Grapple with the Past, Hatchery Spider, Millikin, Mindwrack Demon, Once and Future, Splinterfright, The Mending of Dominaria, Skullwinder, Blood for Bones, and Vigor Mortis.
8 months ago
Given no context I found these in under 30 minutes
Izoni, Thousand-Eyed , Hatchery Spider , Mausoleum Secrets , Molderhulk , Alesha, Who Smiles at Death , Apprentice Necromancer , Mindwrack Demon , Manic Scribe , Inexorable Blob , To the Slaughter , Epicenter , Kirtar's Wrath , Putrid Imp , Stitch Together , Shower of Coals , Repentant Vampire , Wayward Angel , Bloodbond March , Blood for Bones , Brawn , Charnelhoard Wurm , Charnel Troll , Circular Logic , Corrupted Grafstone , Corpseweft , Countervailing Winds , Crackling Drake , Crop Sigil , Dance of the Manse , Disciple of the Ring , Tasigur's Cruelty , Tasigur, the Golden Fang , Treasure Cruise , Sibsig Muckdraggers , Rite of Undoing , Empty the Pits , Magmatic Sinkhole , Murderous Cut , Logic Knot , Necropolis Fiend
9 months ago
10 months ago
Eternal Witness , Finale of Devastation , Creeping Renaissance , Deadwood Treefolk , Genesis , Greenwarden of Murasa , Hatchery Spider , Moldgraf Monstrosity , Nature's Spiral , Noxious Revival , Paleoloth , Praetor's Counsel , Regrowth , Reincarnation , Revive , Seasons Past , Skullwinder , Verdant Confluence , and Wildwood Rebirth are all reasonable options and I am sure I am missing a few since I was going through this quickly at 2 am.
With mono g I would say get 3 or 4 of these and focus on keeping a full grip of cards even if it means cutting a few of your worst wurms to make it so you get to your good wurms faster. A Duskwatch Recruiter Flip is more helpful to you than something like Duskdale Wurm . Good draw and tutors make a deck much stronger than one just jam packed with big dudes.
There are also a few indestructible creatures that can be used if there are far too many board wipes to recover. Spearbreaker Behemoth , Impervious Greatwurm and Nylea, God of the Hunt are pretty fitting cards for wurms imo.
6 player games can be fun, but you are right, some decks don't really function well with that many. I always prefer 4 player games.
1 year ago
1 year ago
Ive been playing an undergrowth deck for a while now and I think i can offer some insight. Windgrace Acolyte is just too expensive for a 3\2 flier. Kraul Foragers is better in the sideboard to bring in against aggressive decks. Hatchery Spider is junk. Glowspore Shaman and Stitcher's Supplier are amazing and often enough to keep the gas going. Im on the fence about Molderhulk but hes a pretty sweet pay off for the deck espeically with memorial. Jadelight is also great but Ive been playing Charnel Troll as a 3 drop since hes easy to feed and you can get him back with Gruesome Menagerie . Hope that helps