|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Magic 2015||Mythic Rare|
|2011 Core Set||Mythic Rare|
|Duel Decks: Garruk vs. Liliana||Mythic Rare|
|2010 Core Set||Mythic Rare|
|Promo set for Gatherer||Mythic Rare|
|Promo Set||Mythic Rare|
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Planeswalker — Liliana
+1: Target player discards a card.
-2: Search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it.
-8: Put all creature cards in all graveyards onto the battlefield under your control.
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Liliana Vess Discussion
5 hours ago
Liliana Vess is simply very slow (you need some acceleration), and you can't get away with having only 22 lands.
Raven's Crime can replace Necrogen Mists and you should run 4 of ravens's crime, and 2 of necrogen mists. Howver it mandates going black/green, to have Life from the Loam, Sylvan Scrying to tutor for Ghost Quarter.
Liquimetal Coating gets ruined by the enormous amount of artifact removal played inmodern against affinity and the like.
or you could check out "waste not storm" deck, if you like that card, after all that archetype is built around it.
P.s.: you can build working dual colored mana bases on a budget, but you can't really get away with 3 colors. (and you can incrementally upgrade them over time)
8 hours ago
Thanks a ton for your tips Xica! Very appreciated!
For the idea of behind this deck... Its a tall order i know... but im aiming to keep this deck under $100. It doesn't have to be SUPER COMPETITIVE but yeah i do want it to be able to pull off some wins yknow?
Yeah I definitely do want my opponent to discard and even though the price for Liliana of the Veil went down just one copy is like $20 more than the whole deck. I do have full playsets of Distress and Wrench Mind but im not exactly certain as to what slots I would replace with... like even if i invested in Thoughtseize and picked up Raven's Crime Im just not sure where I would put it/what i'd replace. Currently im thinking that the discard effects happen late game/via cleanup step for the opponent exceeding the maximum handsize and then Necrogen Mists for assistance. Currently as it stands your right i have no way to Blow up all the lands so perhaps i need to integrate more discard enablers.
As for Ensnaring Bridge. The idea seems good. its just too pricey for what im going for... 2 copies of it alone cost more that the entire deck by 20 bucks. Im HOPEING that I finally found a home for Waste Not and some vanilla 2/2 zombie tokens can help chump block with the aid of some spot removal. for a budget Damnation effect i do have a playset of Killing Wave and 2x Necroplasm but just not sure about them...
I love your explanation of Blood Moon... that seems like a very smart idea. But again just not budget friendly and im aiming for mono black... otherwise id try to exploit Liquimetal Coating and green Naturalize/Splinter effects... however; now that you point out the synergy between Ghost Quarter and Life from the Loam thats a lot more tempting now... curse this thin wallet of mine!
As far as scry/tutor is concerned... idk... i have 2x Liliana Vess she does both discard and tutor... any thoughts?
2 days ago
Hi, I am trying to put together a golgari reanimator sacrifice deck and I am having a lot of trouble shaving it down to my 99. Currently I am trying to decide on a good list of tutor cards I currently have Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Intent, Fauna Shaman, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Buried Alive, Eldritch Evolution, Dimir House Guard, Jarad's Orders, Liliana Vess, Perilous Forays, Sidisi, Undead Vizier, Rune-Scarred Demon, Tooth and Nail.
If you could help me decide on a good list, want to help shave other cards out or have a few suggestions on cards to add that would be wonderful.
5 days ago
Elixir of Immortality is in here because why not? There really is no downside to adding 1 extra card that does what elixir does. It compensates for its own statistical downside being the 61st card in the deck, especially with Liliana Vess and her -2.
1 week ago
I dislike the use of Glimpse the Unthinkable as it costs more money than my existence at my local store or any store for that matter (it was originally in the deck until I saw the price). Thought Scour is good, but I rather have Tome Scour in there for a low mana mill, and thought scour is a little slow and from my play testing, card draw is not an issue at all. Sphinx's Tutelage does most certainly not need to be upped to 4, even though it is low mana, and is a wonderful card, having more would choke my deck for other cards, and ultimately I only need them early game for the first 5-8 turns until they completely mill out, at which point it is only useful to me as card draw which I only need 1 of them for. Grimoire Thief seems like a cool card, but it removes their cards from the game. I will consider it, but the overall concept of the deck is that the cards end up in the graveyard for later use by other cards such as Liliana Vess or Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver. Removing them from the game 3 at a time and then using them as 1 counter spell seems like such a waste of potential resources for my other cards.
1 week ago
I'll throw it n my 2 cents on some black that will fortify your deck as well as agree you have too many creatures and not enough land.
When building commander you need to think about how impactful the cards you use will be after you play them. One time casts need to have real omph, mana needs versatility or ramped in quickly, board presence is key but you need to think on how the deck will work. It is easier to start with a theme or play style before you even pick a commander. I would recommend browsing EdHrec.com as it will tell you literally everything you need to know about commonly used strategies for chosen commanders and tribes.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Why didn't anyone mention Blood Artist? And Gifted Aetherborn - it's also nice with life gain theme. I would also recommend to add Blood Tribute. And don't forget about tutors and card draw: Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, Beseech the Queen, Sensei's Divining Top, Sign in Blood. Even Harrowing Journey can help you at the right moment. I also use Liliana Vess as a tutor. Good luck!