|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Magic 2015 (M15)||Mythic Rare|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Mythic Rare|
|Duel Decks: Garruk vs. Liliana (DDD)||Mythic Rare|
|2010 Core Set (M10)||Mythic Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Mythic Rare|
|Promo set for Gatherer (PSG)||Mythic Rare|
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Planeswalker — Liliana
+1: Target player discards a card.
-2: Search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it.
-8: Put all creature cards in all graveyards onto the battlefield under your control.
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Liliana Vess Discussion
3 days ago
Okay, the easyest ways to upgrade this deck are:
This frees up fourteen slots.
To fill them I would add:
4x Undead Augur
Other (expensive) options:
Gravecrawler is great, but after it spiked, it might be a little to expensive. If you ever do add Gravecrawler , Carrion Feeder is insane. Tidehollow Sculler is one of the best zombies, but without expensive lands, it might not be the right fit.
Thoughtseize : Although you probably don't want to play Inquisition, Sculler and Thoughtseize , they are all good cards. Blood Moon compleatly shuts down some decks, while mostly leaving red decks intact. Leyline of the Void is A+ Sideboard Material, and is always a good cards to play in the 15.
Bloodstained Mire , Polluted Delta , Blackcleave Cliffs and Blood Crypt are all staples of R/B manabases, because of the fetchlands ability to fetch Blood Crypt . Because of this, they are at a crazy price right now, but they are the best.
1 week ago
Hi Wolf0312, thanks for stopping by and thanks for the suggestions. Sarkhan Vol looks right at home for that purpose, and still fits the budget theme for a planeswalker. I might pass on Zealous Conscripts though, it's a lot of mana for a once off effect and only a 3/3. Liliana Vess would fit nicely in here too, lots to think about with what to remove!
1 week ago
All the remaining creatures put onto the battlefield with Liliana Vess are exiled.
800.4c If an effect that gives a player still in the game control of an object ends, there is no other effect giving control of that object to another player in the game, and the object entered the battlefield under the control of a player who has left the game, the object is exiled. This is not a state-based action. It happens as soon as the control-changing effect ends.
1 week ago
Last night me and the gang were playing a game of commander, and a situation arose in which we weren't quite sure on how to resolve. The situation goes as follows...
1) Player A uses Liliana Vess Ultimate, returning all creatures from everyone's yards to the battlefield under his control.
2) Player B casts Insurrection gaining control of all creatures until end of turn, and proceeds to eliminate Player A and Player C. All cards from Player A and Player C leave the game. This leaves Player B and Player D to fight it out.
3) Player B reaches his end step, which Insurrection effect ends.
This begs the question; Where do all the remaining creatures go upon Insurrection ending?
Thanks in advance!
1 week ago
Well, now that this Forum is online & fully operational, I can finally do, well... this.
This deck is made w/ many infinite combos in mind:
Aminatou + Reality Acid = I exile everything you have.
This could go on for so long, but my first question is obvious;
This is practically an ETB based deck; but are there other things worth cutting or replacing? & NO. I'm not replacing Echo of Eons w/ Timetwister ; buying that is like forcing a company you work with to BANKRUPTCY.
What is the quintessential Signature Spell for ETB effects in Esper?
I'm really missing out on a lot of things; card draw most notably. That said; I ask again, what would you replace from the 58?
I could go on about this, but this should suffice for now. Thanks for the help, if any, & I'll be working on other things now... :)
1 week ago
Liliana Vess and other tutors. These cards are never a bad option. I agree that more tutors are good as they find more answers, but to many tutors and you will run out of answers to search for. I wanted to keep more options for good draws instead. Tutors are best situated for the games where you need to find that one card that has a singular effect that will stop you from losing or to find that last key piece to your combo to just go off and win on the spot. This deck requires neither of those lines so I can afford to run less tutors and more answers without losing tempo. I have thought about cards like Dark Confidant to help with more early game draw and I can just use a board wipe to destroy him after I have enough cards in hand and/or don't want to lose any more life to the trigger. Usually my opponents will answer him before I need to either the turn he's played or shortly after as people fear the efficiency of BOB.
Crush Contraband / Mortify These are cards that have niche effects as my worst matchup is against Enchantment heavy strategies. These cards are extra effects that stop these type of decks before they have a chance to gain momentum. It is an inclusion because of the decks I usually play against and I have not had a single game where they didn't come in handy. Also they are removal I can search using Sunforger so they are never bad options if I need one of the effects. My main concern is consistency. I like to run multiples of strong cards that have the same effect to increase my odds of seeing either card during the course of the game.
Read the Bones , Night's Whisper I use Night's Whisper instead of Sign in Blood because I prefer the consistency of playing this turn two with out being prevented by possible mana constraints. I may put these cards in the deck because cheap card draw is never bad and at the cost of 2 life even better. I run Painful Truths as it is the best of the three but I should be running these as well. I will do more testing as see what is under performing to try and add these cards in.
1 week ago
SwiftDeath don't know if you updated your list recently but others things I noticed is that you also have a bit of imbalance between threats/answers.
On the creatures I would absolutely cut Aven Mindcensor and Suture Priest as I thing they do too little. You'll be much happier with Giver of Runes protecting the targets of your auras/equipments. I would absolutely run Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs . For 5cmc you get a 5/4 that drops a 3/3 per attacking creature unless he/she pays 3!! They will just attack somewhere else.
You also run an insane quantity of board wipe effects (9) plus a ton of spot removal. I would definitely make some cuts here: Chandra's Ignition and Wrath of God could be cut to add a couple of tutors that will help find you answers when you need them. Liliana Vess , Beseech the Queen are budget options that perform just fine. On the spot removal you are already running plenty of great choices and I don't see a reason to run weaker cards like Crush Contraband , Mortify . You can just replace them with a bit of card draw like Read the Bones and Sign in Blood to find help find the good ones ;)
2 weeks ago
This post is better than some of your other ones, but there's still a lot of superfluous text. Don't take this a negative response, but as some constructive criticism. You're far, far more likely to get the deck help you need with a shorter, to the point post. I realize it might be tough for you, but it will help increase the chance that you'll get the responses you're looking for! Most people will see a wall of text and just click away from there.
Always start with a link to the decklist if the questions are about a specific deck.
I'm going to refine this to show you how concise this post could really be.
1) Which combo is more effective in this deck?
2) Is Urza, Lord High Artificer worth a card slot in this deck?
3) Which card draw card is best in this deck?
4) Is Oath of Gideon worth a card slot in this deck?
5) Are there any Gideon planeswalkers worth running in this deck?
6) Are there any Nissa planeswalkers worth running in this deck?
8) Is Bioessence Hydra worth a card slot in this deck?
This concise form is less than one-fifth the size of your original post to ask the same questions. The key to remember is that people are lazy and far more likely to assist someone if it takes less effort on their part.
Going forward, carefully consider each sentence in your post. Ask yourself, "Is this vital to the question I am asking?" if you even hesitate when considering a sentence, leave it out.
Remember the old adage: "Less is more!"
Liliana Vess occurrence in decks from the last year
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