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|2010 Core Set (M10)||Uncommon|
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Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature can't be blocked and has shroud. (It can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Equip *(: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
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Whispersilk Cloak Discussion
8 hours ago
Whispersilk Cloak, Trailblazer's Boots,Pathmaker Initiate, Rogue's Passage, Goblin Tunneler and Reconnaissance are good cards to safe guard your "when this creature attacks or "when this creature deals damage.
2 days ago
@smashadams83. I love Crop Rotation and think it can be an all-star in the right deck (like this one: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/shattergang-lands-brewing/) but I think Id rather run Sylvan Scrying in a list like this. You lose instant speed and have to pay one more mana, but you dont have to sacrifice a land. There are several utility lands this deck wants to find like Shizo or Oran Reif so you should always have a target to dig for. That said, if you have access to Demonic Tutor its obviously way better.
I used to own a copy of Yavimaya Hollow back in the day (when it was a sub $10 card) but it was destroyed in a flood. Ive been meaning to get another copy and I think its a great investment (reserved list and all) but I just havent gotten around to it. Ill definitely pick one up when I can.As far as protection for Hapatra goes, I run less than you, only Greaves. I should probably play Boots as well and may still try to find space for it. She is pretty essential to the strategy of the deck so devoting resources to keeping her on the field is a good call. I prefer Sword of Feast and Famine to Whispersilk Cloak. It provides just a huge payoff for connecting.
Good moves with Bitterblossom and Westvale Abbey Flip. I agree about Rogue's Passage being too costly for this deck. I also have added Forbidden Orchard to my list of cards to acquire for this deck. Seems like a perfect fit, great find. I feel good about my current number of cycling lands (5) along with Geier Reach Sanitarium, I want to be careful of using too many ETB tapped lands because its often a good move to get Hapatra in on turn 2.
There are two other lands Ive been considering. 1) Pendelhaven: This deck has a ton of 1/1s so why not give this a shot over a random forest? In the event Hapatra has to target herself with a counter on turn 3 this could beef her up into a 2/3 on her next combat. Also 2/3 snakes (not as important) and 2/3 faeries. Definitely not essential but the price drop after the Masters 25 reprint caught my attention.
2) Command Beacon: Having to pay 6 or 8 mana for Hapatra can be a real drag late in the game. I like this land in my decks that run expensive commanders, but I think it has a place here as well. I just want to be careful about having too many colorless lands.
Slate of Ancestry is amazing when it is on but really inconsistent, due to how costly it is to activate. I dont think its uncuttable but if I do swap it out Id want to replace it with draw. I do really like the idea of Evolutionary Leap but I dont think its a good 1 for 1 swap. Another draw effect could be Deathreap Ritual, but honestly it just seems like a bad Phyrexian Arena.
The other creatures you suggested besides Undead Gladiator seem too costly for the return effect, even Genesis. I used to run that card in every green deck but I feel like the format has sped up and its just so slow these days. Its not bad, but I dont think this deck can make enough mana to take advantage of it consistently. That said, I dont think we would even need too many of these effects. Survival of the Fittest can always just search up the Gladitaor and pitch him to find another creature, same with Fauna Shaman, albeit more slowly.
As Ive played with my list Ive become less enthusiastic about the Protean Hulk direction and I dont think Im going to try it. I like my current big green creatures as a Natural Order package and if I wanted to run another one Id probably try Terastodon or Woodfall Primus. Fierce Empath is a great alternative to Natural Order though and Id definitely run it if I didnt have a copy of NO.
I like Golgari Charm along with/instead of Heroic Intervention. I havent been able to find room for either card but I definitely think I should be running at least one of them. if I was only going to run one of them I think I like charm more because it has more applications, even though the save my stuff mode is more limited.
Regarding Life from the Loam you definitely want to have enough recursion to make it worthwhile. Im running more than you in Dread Return, Victimize, and Meren of Clan Nel Toth (along with Eternal Witness and Journey to Eternity Flip) and Id run more if I could find space for it. Dread Return is particularly nice with Loam as you can flash it back fairly easily so its not a huge deal if you dump it in the yard. Still, this is more of a token deck than a graveyard deck and dredging isnt really what I want to be doing every game, its just nice as an option. In the average game where I cast Loam I probably only dredge once or twice, if at all. Getting 2-3 lands back to your hand is often good enough as a one shot effect. Zulaport Cutthroat has been fantastic for me so far and I think I want to find room for Blood Artist as well. I do find myself missing sacrifice outlets when I get Cutthroat on the field though. I may have to find room for Yahenni after all .Ive been really enjoying our discussion!
3 days ago
Unfortunately I don't think there's anything red or black that grant creatures shroud. Equipment can only be attached to creatures you control so something like Whispersilk Cloak wouldn't be an option. You could splash blue perhaps for an aura like Robe of Mirrors and also gain access to counterspells to assist in assembling your combo which may be your best bet to make sure your Abyssal Persecutor stays on the board. I don't know if you'd be willing to splash another color because I'll admit that isn't necessarily the most desirable thing to do.
3 days ago
Geier reach sanitarium looks great, ill have to add that to my list. do you think that Crop Rotation would be a good way to find it, or another utility land?
Another all star land for me has been Yavimaya Hollow. I would recommend getting one as its great for protecting hapatra. its a little pricey, but totally worth it. Ive justified the price tag but just rotating it throughout all my green decks. I cut Whispersilk Cloak for the Sword of Feast and Famine, not sure this was the right cut but i still have Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots in the list. Do you think these 3 are necessary for protection?
I added Bitterblossom to my list as I think that your logic in needing more token producers is correct. Having flying blockers is relevant as well. I also added Westvale Abbey Flip and removed Rogue's Passage. passage seemed nice as a way to make hapatra unblockable but the activation cost is just too high for this deck and I never used it much.
I also wanted to recommend Forbidden Orchard. It helps to color fix, is an untapped land, and is great for putting more targets into play for -1/-1 counters. I find alot of times i run out hapatra on turn 2 and there are no other targets besides her to put a counter on, so this should help with that.
Also if you want another cycling land we can put in Polluted Mire.
How has Slate of Ancestry been working? I put it in my list but it seems kinda slow, although I haven't been able to really use it yet.
Sounds like life from the loam has been great. Honestly, I've never used this type of dredge strategy and I'm worried about discarding a win con ( like craterhoof or the archfiend) when dredging. What are your thoughts on this? is the risk worth the reward here? Maybe more recursion is correct if life from the loam is included?
I agree that the creature count is low. I've played a few games where I have nothing to discard to fauna shaman or survival. And Undead Gladiator looks like a great inclusion.
I cant think of many other creatures to recur to our hand, maybe Genesis? discarding it will turn on the ability we want anyway. How about something like Evolutionary Leap? With all the tokens we should be able to activate it multiple times in a turn if necessary to get some creatures into the hand.
Golgari Guildmage could work but its an expensive activation cost.
Sanitarium Skeleton could work as a creature to discard and return to hand.
Stinkweed Imp is a nice utility creature but dredging 5 seems too high for this deck.
Could Grave-Shell Scarab work here?
Its too bad that we don't have more creatures with relevant keywords for something like Mwonvuli Beast Tracker. its a nice creature tutor along with Fierce Empath. Actually, fierce empath might be nice for finding hulk or craterhoof. I guess if we are looking to up the creature count these could be nice utility guys but you're probably right in using wood elves and steve as utility creatures to ramp and possibly discard later on in the game if necessary.
1 week ago
Things that should work well in the deck: Nahiri, the Lithomancer, Aura Shards, Fireshrieker, Worldslayer, Shield of Kaldra, Helm of Kaldra, Sword of Kaldra, Conqueror's Flail, Basilisk Collar, Godsend, Whispersilk Cloak, Quietus Spike, Masterwork of Ingenuity, Sword of Vengeance, Rishkar's Expertise, Open the Vaults, Krosan Grip, Auriok Steelshaper, Armory Automaton, Puresteel Paladin, Stonehewer Giant
Consider removing: Alms Collector, Stalking Leonin, Hungry Lynx, Jazal Goldmane, Leonin Arbiter, Fleecemane Lion, Phantom Nishoba, Temur Sabertooth, White Sun's Zenith, Curse of Bounty, Curse of Vitality
I think some of my suggestions for adding may already be in there but that just tells you they are doubly worth it :P There may be better options then some of what I listed so you might want to take a look here too:
1 week ago
1 week ago
Change commander to Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger. He costs less for one, and when he attacks the opponent exiles a 5th of their deck.
Eldrazi Conscription with the right ramp you can attach to Ulamog or Kozilek, preferably Ulamog to get annihilator 4 and annihilator 2 from Eldrazi Conscription (I hope that's how it works) or ceaseless hunger to ruin enemy plans.
Maybe get Ugin, the Spirit Dragon as he's colorless and can be a huge nuisance to the enemy, especially his -X.
Get both Kozileks in there, and for a casual format with friends get Emrakul, the Aeons Torn to make your friends hate you.
Either Karn could work as well. (More so Karn Liberated)
In conclusion, change commander, develop new strategy, and be sure to- OH, and Quietus Spike. My friend uses it all the time in his commander deck, and he ALWAYS gets it in every starting hand, without stacking. Attach that onto Eldrazi Mimic on early turns to wipe your enemy's health. Prioritize lower mana cost ramp like Sol Ring, and as a joke for casual play, Black Lotus, Mox Gems (Mox Lotus especially), and obviously, Saute, because we all like some roasted hobgoblin
1 week ago
Going off of stuff that you do not have on your maybe-board, Sram, Senior Edificer is an amazing choice.
Now, for changes to the deck based on your maybe board. I would take out Soul's Majesty, Evolutionary Leap and Hunter's Prowess. In their places, I would add Vanquisher's Banner, Prowling Serpopard, and Felidar Sovereign. Lastly, I would take out Hour of Revelation to add Whispersilk Cloak. Blowing up your own artifacts is not on your to-do list. If you really need artifact/enchantment removal, Krosan Grip is really good.
I would also think about finding a spot to put Trading Post in, as it is a pretty versatile card. Shapers' Sanctuary is not that bad of a pick, but one thing to consider with it is that (usually) the big guy someone would want to target with a spell will have hexproof or shroud.