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Tormented Soul Discussion
1 week ago
Hey!So I just got MTGO yesterday and today I started with a deck building. I really like the game, but at this point I don't want to spend money on it that much. I want to see how it goes, how tournaments work etc.
So today I found a deck on TappedOut that really fits my play stile - fast, undead and dirty :PIt looks something like thisDauthi SlayerGurmag SwiftwingTormented SoulVampire NighthawkDoom BladeUndying EvilBump in the NightPredator's GambitUnholy StrengthLashwrithe
Now only after I purchased it, I realized that it does not fit to standard rule set. Can you help me to adjust it to the standard rule set? Cheap as possible would be the key.
1 week ago
Hey AwesomeK! I like the idea behind this deck! I too have experimented with this type of deck before. I see you are looking for some advice so I'm just going start spitting ideas and maybe one will stick!
First thing I worry about with this deck is inconsistency. I do not like the red. I say cut the red and keep it in black/blue. This will keep you more consistent and speed up your mana base without forcing you to spend money on a good tri-color mana base.
Cut Deathcult Rogue and in place of him and your Hellspark Elemental run 4x Tormented Soul. I would also cut your Murmuring Phantasm all together because defenders are generally slow and you are playing unblockable so you should be offering up such a fast beatdown you don't want to waste turn 2 casting a slow defender. If you are absolutely sold on the idea of a defender I would switch to Wall of Frost for the stun effect and the fact that it comes in a turn later so you develop your aggression first then settle into a defense.
I love Hands of Binding but I would also cut something else to run a few Hidden Strings. It doesn't have the stun effect but it allows you to untap mana for Mana Leak/Think Twice or untap a blocker if you need one.
Dimir Infiltrator seems forced because it doesn't really transmute into anything. I would probably replace him with 3x Think Twice for card draw. The fourth along with your Vampire's Bite could be easily cut to make room for Hidden Strings.
I love that this is a super budget deck and all my other suggestions still fit into that budget for the most part but my final suggestion would be add maybe 2x Creeping Tar Pit. It is a slow land but if you end up running into a lot of removal early and do end up in a longer game you can still enchant this animated land with cipher spells and buffs such as Dark Favor and continue your beatdown.
Wow. I didn't mean to critique so many items but like I said you were looking for some advice and I feel like all these are solid suggestions. Don't forget that if you do take this advice you can also cut to about 20 or 21 lands total because your curve will be much smaller and if you don't put in Wall of Frost then the only 3 cost in the entire deck is the flashback on Think Twice and of course you have the mana sink of Icy Blast.
Hope this helps! I will leave a +1 regardless because I love the concept! Let me know if you like any of my suggestions and let me know if you need anything else or stumble across more awesome cards for this deck!
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
I found a way to make a sideboard that takes the deck to 20~25$ and still under one tix.
To do so you, the sideboard will consist of.
4x Undying Evil (because worldslayer shenanigans)
4x Virulent Swipe (cheap combat trick that rebounds)
1x Worldslayer (because 3 isn't enough)
2x Geth's Verdict (cheap removal)
2x Go for the Throat (also cheap removal)
After optimizing the price will be at a WHOPPING 0,97 TIX
3 weeks ago
Boon of Erebos Instant speed pump and regeneration.
Also, a playset of Lashwrithe is almost a full ticket on MTGO according to tappedout.
3 weeks ago
FAMOUSWATERMELON ahhh! interesting. You must be the resident u-tron player;) I thought about building it, I have Remand and Gitaxian Probe, and my friend has singletons of the urza lands. Is it fun to play? I mean, control has it's merits but I don't want to build a boring deck, and budget would be semi issue like no Karn Liberated any time soon if it runs it
3 weeks ago
You might consider a way of going after life "possible" in your deck instead of just allowing them to not worry about it at all, I mean with only Infect creatures and no burn at all, your opponet has zero worry about how many times they Bolt themselves with fetches and shocks or phyrexian mana.
I suppose in blue you could try running Invisible Stalker Even if you dont splash the black it can help people think twice about how low they push thier own life total
1 month ago
Let's cut some cards: Artisan of Kozilek. Might as well pay 1 more and cast Kozilek, Butcher of Truth. Magmatic Force provides very little immediate value. He's costly and needs to survive to do much. I'm really iffy on Kaervek the Merciless. I'd swap him to the maybeboard for now. Myr Battlesphere shouldn't be here. You don't have many ways of using Butcher of Malakir here. It's should leave. Inferno Titan is not good enough. Same goes for Scuttling Doom Engine, Xathrid Gorgon, and Staff of Nin. Archfiend of Depravity is terrible. You're Rakdos. Don't give people choices. Besides, the decks with the highest priority creatures usually only tend to run a few on board anyways.
Is your meta very creature heavy? Do people attack you often? If so, Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs is fine. Otherwise it's terrible. Palace Siege is too slow. Gratuitous Violence may be a bit win-more. Gilded Lotus is too heavy as far as ramp is concerned. Be very careful with Underworld Cerberus. Diabolic Revelation is not a very good black tutor. I'd recommend Vampiric Tutor if you can afford it. Pestilence is meh. Same for Pyrohemia. Go with Damnation if you can afford it. Remove Lobber Crew. Maga, Traitor to Mortals is just unwieldy. Might as well run Exsanguinate for that effect. Prodigal Pyromancer and Vulshok Sorcerer are just meh. Chromatic Lantern isn't needed here. Rakdos Keyrune is shit. We'll need to replace them with better ramp. Read the Bones, Sign in Blood, and Toil / Trouble are too bulky in EDH. Rakdos's Return isn't good in a multiplayer format. Tormented Soul and Goblin Fireslinger need to leave. Rakdos Carnarium is the ideal target for land destruction. You don't want someone pointing a Strip Mine at this. If you can afford them, get Blood Crypt, Bloodstained Mire, Shadowblood Ridge, and Sulfurous Springs.
Annnnnd breathe... Ok. I got through that.
I've just spent some time ragging on all the cards in your deck that I don't like. Why? Because Magic is primarily a game about managing resources and you've chosen to play a color combination that's known for not having the best way to collect resources. That means getting the most bang for your buck for the cards you cast is incredibly important. What do I mean by that? Well, instead of playing Butcher of Malakir, you could put in Thundermaw Hellkite. He costs less and there's immediate impact when he hits the field. You're limited to drawing one card and placing one land on the field per turn. Those two things are limitations to what you can do. By actiely looking to break those limits, you'll make a faster deck. Seems self-explanatory, I know.
What you basically want is a smaller curve. Because your commander can make spells cheaper, it's ok to have some higher costing cards. Still, your non-creature spells should be cheap and high-impact. This deck should be between 2.5 and 3.5 average converted mana cost. To help you cast spells, you need proper ramp. The fact that you don't even have a Sol Ring speaks volumes. I highly recommend Braid of Fire and Talisman of Indulgence. They're two cheap rocks. Charcoal Diamond is a decent rock, as is Jet Medallion since your primary color is black. There's also Mana Crypt, but that's serious money.
That's all I have time for at the moment. Hope that helps.
|Power / Toughness||1/1|
|Avg. draft pick||7.03|
|Avg. cube pick||12.3|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
|Planechase 2012 Edition||Common|
|2012 Core Set||Common|