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|Masterpiece Series: Amonkhet Invocations (AKHMPS)||Common|
|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Uncommon|
|Masters Edition (MED)||Common|
|Promo Set (000)||Uncommon|
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Force of Will
You may pay 1 life and exile a blue card from your hand from the game rather than pay Force of Will's mana cost.
Counter target spell.
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Force of Will Discussion
5 hours ago
First, and I mean this nicely, you are not going to win using this deck in Legacy. Legacy is ultra-fast, and you're in a bit of a jam if you do not have a turn-one victory or turn-zero disruption (i.e. Force of Will). If you intend to use this deck casually, you should be fine, but I would be doing a disservice if I did not warn you of the dangers of your chosen format.
Moving on to deckbuilding advice, the Tron lands do little for you. You have a lot of cards requiring one or more coloured mana, and very few outlets for large amounts of colourless mana. Cut all the tron lands and run some lands that produce both Blue and White (Glacial Fortress, Hallowed Fountain, Adarkar Wastes, Flooded Strand). Note, many new deckbuilders want to purchase less expensive lands that enter the battlefield tapped (Azorius Guildgate). Do not fall into this trap! Your manabase is the most important part of your deck, and lands that enter tapped will lose you games.
Isperia, Supreme Judge is extremely substandard in 60 card constructed formats. By the time you can cast him, you should already have sufficient defenses with your Ghostly Prisons and Propagandas that you're not being attacked. As such, he's a bit superfluous. Yes, he provides a large body, but you can find better win conditions.
I am not really a fan of Ludevic's Test Subject Flip as a win condition either--too much investment, and too susceptible to removal. Spending 3 turns building it up, and then having it get hit with Fatal Push would be most disappointing.
Path to Exile is a bit pricey, but it is probably the best removal spell in the game.
How do you want to win?
3 days ago
4 days ago
Ultimately, the competitiveness of your deck is going to rely on how much you want to spend on it. If you are looking to have ridiculous combos and not worrying about money, thrasios is great with infinite mana from Power Artifact and Grim Monolith or Basalt Monolith. You could also run Force of Will or Swan Song if you are looking for more low CMC counters. I would also recommend looking into Rhystic Study and Mystic Remora for low CMC card draw. Sword of Feast and Famine is great for untapping all lands, especially with Kumenas unblockable ability. I typically enjoy running a lot of artifact decks, so I look at that side of things. Mana Vault is good for early game mana as long as you dont mind a little damage. Good luck on the rest of your deck! Ill be keeping my eye out and seeing if there are any other good suggestions.
1 week ago
Coward_Token, I'm glad you see my point of view, but the Undaunted mechanic would only be optimal in at least a 4 player game, limiting it's reliability. Force of Will is a perfect fit, if you have the $83 to spare, haha. I'd like to focus on less expensive cards with this format personally, but i value your input regardless! Ingot Chewer is an inexpensive and low CMC card, but hurts bad w/ Vial Smasher the Fierce.
poorpinkus, I loved your deck so much, i used it as a template for my less friendly rendition of the deck. Perhaps you would like to take a peek and see, @Good touch bad touch? I would recommend throwing some flash into your deck (if you can spare the coin), to get the most out of vial smasher, and surprise your opponents! Examples include Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir (Iconic masters is cheap), Notion Thief (in case you get a little greedy, haha), Stunt Double, and Hypersonic Dragon. With flash, you become unpredictable making your opponents weary of you at any given time, plus you can get more kick out of vial smasher. If you have the coin Leyline of Anticipation and Vedalken Orrery give everything flash, truly a diabolic strategy! Oh, and one last thing, Baral's Expertise and Dark Petition are value town because they somewhat pay for themselves, circumstantially of course. Other than that, it's a beautiful AND budget build, which is my style!
1 week ago
Sorry for taking so long to respond, I haven't checked back on here for a bit.
Barsan I mainly didn't include the tempt cards because my playgroup has become pretty stingy with them, so they never accept any of the offerings. I do like Tempt with Reflections a lot, but Tempt with Vengeance tends to cause a board stalemate and Tempt with Immortality tends to cause one of my opponents to get one of their game-ending creatures back.
Coward_Token Sygg, River Cutthroat is a great idea! My only concern is that it becomes fairly obvious what I am trying to do, since my main goal with this deck is to cause people to lose life while looking as unassuming as possible. The same goes for Bloodchief Ascension but to a higher degree. I like Curtains' Call a lot actually, and I might just replace Deadly Designs with it as Deadly Designs never seems to work well, however Force of Will is far, far outside of my budget range.
Chill_Casual I like where you are going with this! I personally like to keep Browbeat because it's more of a political card than anything; my opponents can choose to let me draw cards which makes the card draw a bit less intimidating, but evoke cards are definitely great with Vial Smasher. Smoke would be too annoying of a card for a deck like this, since it inhibits every player so they'd want to target/kill me to get rid of it. I've been trying to get my hands on a Blasphemous Act since it's obviously great in this deck, so thanks for the suggestions!
1 week ago
I would even go more into the Control Direction as Board Wipes will kill your Deck ...I would recommend you following Cards for control:Force of Will , Pact of Negation, Familiar's Ruse, Negate, Swan Song
Lifecrafter's Bestiary i would add as good Card Draw.
And i have a question :
What is good in playing Arcane Adaptation? Maybe i dont understand that Card. just add more Merfolks to your Deck, there are some good ones still missing.
1 week ago
1 week ago
xyr0s: See the thing is you're talking about Modern. Back in the heydays of Slivers there was no "Modern", and for that matter the vast majority of the crazy strong slivers aren't Modern legal. In EDH they seem to get hated off the board real fast, so today they're not much of a threat, but it's really not because newer cards render them inert, it's because the only formats the OG Slivers are legal in are dominated by insane Force of Will, Mox weilding insanity that can combo off as early as T1.