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Force of Will
You may pay 1 life and exile a blue card from your hand from the game rather than pay Force of Will's mana cost.
Counter target spell.
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Force of Will Discussion
2 hours ago
I would focus more on milling, tempo and board control and less on generating fast mana you don't need. Force of Will is extremely expensive and you have almost no blue cards to discard to play it. With lotus petals you can tap out and have mana up more reliable counterspells; Counterspell, Cryptic Command or Mana Drain if cost is no issue. While you've got 4 trinket mages you have no way to find your painter as trinket only fetches for ;Enlightened Tutor, Fabricate might be better. Ensnaring Bridge covers you against aggro and gives you more fetch options (replacing Monastery Mentor's), works with your lions eye diamonds, Basilisk Collar goes well with tokens and gives your walking ballista damage deathtouch.
I would also consider having just 4x of painters and grindstone. They're a 2 piece instant win combo, you want to be drawing them into your hand turn 0 with tutors to find whatever control piece you need to win and some ramp or counterspells.
1 day ago
I picked up a copy of As Foretold in a trade from a friend. If I can get some games in I will try to share how it does.
1 day ago
Well, TheGrayMerchant I have 19 blue cards in total (that's including the gold ones). I'm apprehensive to persue Force of Will due to 1. Cost (yes, I do realize this deck is quite expensive...but I don't want to spend any more money than I need to) and 2. Reliability: roughly 20 out of 100 cards are blue, that means I have roughly a 1 in 4 chance i'll have a blue card to accompany Force when I cast it for it's alternative cost. For $100, I'd want higher chances than that. Your thoughts?
1 day ago
bushido_man96, do I have enough in the deck to reliably cast Force of Will for it's alternative cost? Know what? I don't think so. Of the 100 cards in the deck, only 19 are blue including the Force of Will itself. I'll stick with Arcane Denial. Unless you can think of a better alternative?
Oh, and yes...I do have a ton of funds tied up into this deck. It's my one really good deck that I plan to maintain as Magic continues onward. It's the manifestation of my dedication to my favorite tribe, and in my opinion it is the definitive "ideal" Sliver EDH deck.
2 days ago
I think the main question as it pertains to including Force of Will is if you have enough in the deck to be able to use its alternate casting method. If you can't do this consistently, then pull it and go with another alternative that would be a cheaper cast, like Arcane Denial.
I like the looks of this deck, and it appears you've got quite the funds tied up into it, especially the mana base. Very nice.
2 days ago
TheGrayMerchant, or should I say...Gary! Ha, I kid. So the power level of my play group is somewhat irrelevant. The idea behind this deck is to create an ideal, high end Sliver deck. I mean, i'm freaking running Mana Drain, so that already gives you an idea of the caliber of decks the Hive will be facing. I was just concerned over the inclusion of Force of Will due to the ratio of in the deck. Do you think I would have a card in hand when I need to cast the spell? What do you think are the odds of me having both Force of Will and a spell to compliment it?
2 days ago
As for deciding between Arcane Denial and Force of Will, it all comes down to your meta's power level and preference. I personally like Force better because it can be cast quicker, but without knowing the power level of your group I can't say if Denial would be better or not (I am not really sure if this is a tuned Slivers list because they all look the same to me... sorry about that).
If your playgroup is powerful, run Force. If not, keep Denial in.
One more suggestion I have is for one of my pet cards - Xenograft. It gives you a lot more flexibility in being able to run more utility creatures while still getting benefits from them.
2 days ago
Mj3913, I left you a comment and a +1 on your page. I hope you found my name and card suggestions worthwhile. As for me, I've completed my pet project, but I'm always looking for ways to tweak and improve it. For those who look/critique my deck, I have two questions that I'd like for you to answer:
- Should I swap out Arcane Denial for Force of Will?
- If I had a sideboard of basic lands, what lands should I swap out for them?
This deck is no stranger to this forum, without further ado I present:
Commander / EDH
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