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|Masterpiece Series: Amonkhet Invocations (AKHMPS)||Common|
|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Vintage Masters (VMA)||Uncommon|
|Masters Edition (MED)||Common|
|Promo Set (000)||Uncommon|
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Force of Will
You may pay 1 life and exile a blue card from your hand from the game rather than pay Force of Will's mana cost.
Counter target spell.
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Force of Will Discussion
20 hours ago
1 day ago
Thanks, AlwaysSleepy. I have another question, as well. As the win-condition of the deck is to loop spells like Swan Song and Nature's Claim, the tricky part is making it around the table once in order to swing in. One of the key components seems to be drawing (most of) your deck on your first opponent's upkeep, and stopping them (and everyone else) from doing anything.
Where I'm confused is that, without Timetwister, wouldn't you have drawn and discarded most of your library on your own turn while going infinite with Thrasios and looking for all your non-land permanents and spells like Swang Song/Nature's Claim, etc.? If you were unlucky and had to dig deep, you have nothing to reset your library after discarding in your clean up step. Is there any way to "restock" your library without this (expensive) card? Memory's Journey can only do so much if you still want to have things like Silence, Force of Will, and Pact of Negation on each of your opponents' turn. Thanks!
4 days ago
Continuing from above...
Given Bruna's high CMC you're usually tapped out after casting her. I'd recommend some of the cards below to ensure you get to attack with her next turn.
All the above have alternate ways to cast them even when you're tapped out.
I'd replace all the lands that enters the battlefield tapped with those that enters untapped.
Cavern of Souls ensures Bruna can't be countered.
Hallowed Fountain will be reprinted soon along with the other fetches so it's timely to grab one for cheap!
You can also consider the relevant Panoramas. Bant Panorama and Esper Panorama fetch both island and plains. It's slightly more versatile than Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds as the former an be tapped for and crafted only when we need that colored source. The trade off is of course the activation cost.
Hope you find my suggestions useful!
4 days ago
I think you did a pretty good job for a first deck.
You seem to be running a combination of really good cards and out of place shitty cards. Unless there is some combo or synergy you have with them that I'm missing I think the following cards are garbage and should be cut:
If your opponents are going off way faster than you then you need to think about how to upset their early game with hate pieces. In combo heavy metas cards like Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Vryn Wingmare and Glowrider slow your opponents down enough to let you gain control of the situation Kambal, Consul of Allocation also gains you life to stick around as they cast themselves to death. for creature heavy metas cards like Archfiend of Depravity, Ophiomancer, forced sac like Butcher of Malakir Dictate of Erebos and Magus of the Tabernacle can really fuck over a lot of decks. For pure control, stax is usually the best option in competitive EDH since relying on counterspells and spot removal to keep 3 other players in check isn't feasible. I also always recommend some graveyard hate in any deck Nihil Spellbomb Relic of Progenitus Grafdigger's Cage Rest in Peace Tormod's Crypt Crypt Incursion Silent Gravestone are all good and cheap to play. I also personally put Necropotence in every black deck, It's so good it honestly should be banned. other good general control cards are Force of Will Pact of Negation Mystic Confluence and Cryptic Command.
I'm not really clear on the win con. Something like a Blightsteel Colossus, any of the preators, or a x mana life drain like Debt to the Deathless, Exsanguinate, or Torment of Hailfire could kill of opponents once you've stabilized the game.
5 days ago
Regarding timing restrictions, it does act like Snapcaster Mage, but it is worth noting that there are some differences. Mission Briefing allows you to cast the card, while Snapcaster Mage gives the card flashback, which is itself an alternative cost. This difference means if you choose Force of Will with Mission Briefing you would be able to pay the alternative cost of 1 life and exiling a blue card from your hand to cast it from the graveyard while Snapcaster Mage would still require you to pay .
If Mission Briefing read "You may cast that card." rather than "You may cast that card this turn." it would mean you cast it during the resolution of Mission Briefing rather than at any point later that turn, which would actually allow you to ignore timing restrictions, but as it is written, it does not.
5 days ago
But the card must be at least partially black, you cannot find a Force of Will at instant speed and cast it. It is not a bad card and will see play in standard, but not anywhere else, the requirement is extremely strict and works against itself in older formats - if you are a deck that can easily stuff the yard with dudes, there is probably no card you need in your hand. If you cannot easily fill the yard, this card does nothing.
Unless an undergrowth centric deck appears, I do not think this has legs in modern.
1 week ago
Thinking about what Toolmaster said about being the king of Legacy & Vintage, this is because those formats are defined by the presence of Force of Will.. On the other hand, I’ve always heard that Lightning Bolt is what defines Modern (ie. Does it die to Bolt?).. So from this simple logic is indeed the strongest, or at least most significant/defining, color in Modern..
Btw, I find this discussion amusing because my 3 favorite colors (in descending order): , , ..