Dark Depths

Legendary Snow Land

Dark Depths enters the battlefield with ten ice counters on it.

: Remove an ice counter from Dark Depths.

When Dark Depths has no ice counters on it, sacrifice it. If you do, create a legendary 20/20 black Avatar creature token with flying and indestructible named Marit Lage onto the battlefield.

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Dark Depths Discussion

wereotter on If dark depths is copied ...

5 days ago

Epochalyptik has the right of it.

The distinction can be seen in the difference between Dark Depths and Westvale Abbey  Flip. The former sacrifices the land then places a token onto the field. The latter actually becomes the creature. The creature has haste, but it only makes a difference if you dropped the land and sacrificed the 5 creatures to transform it on that same turn.

Bulletproofcats on [Primer] Nightmare by Design

1 week ago

Vasseer Thank you again for reading through my explanations. Now as for you suggestions, everything but Chittering Rats has been in the deck at some point.

Nether Traitor's body is irrelevant as he won't be around to block or attack. Is ran Reassembling Skeleton over him for awhile and since I always have a creature dying Traitor is cheaper to bring back.

Dictate of Erebos was also in the deck along with Butcher of Malakir. Decided I didn't need all that.

Library of Leng is there as a just incase. If I have Necro out and need my cards it allows me to put them into my hand and not exile the rest. and I don't need Chainer to waste mana keeping a creature. Don't want to replace the lands I already have.

Mindcrank over anything else because it doesn't require anything after its cast. I don't need to dump mana into Chainer into it. I have Mindslicer for that.

Dark Depths is a card i have never really liked, plus 30 mana is better used else where.

Despise will be switched out for Thoughtseize I was using it in another deck and slipped my mind on putting it back it.

Night's Whisper will probably find its way in as I want to run both.

Darkness being able to tutor for it and cast in response to being dealt lethal has saved me quite a few times.

Rune-Scarred Demon ran for a long time. decided I had enough tutor effects. I do side board it though.

Infernal Darkness I figured I have the tutors to pull and stick Contamination I don't need a second one.

Skullclamp was omitted because of Necro, I have it side boarded though.

Laquatus's Champion I decided against this as that is really mana intense and its a dead card IMO if I draw it.

All in all you are right that Chainer isn't that best at all. I liked that challenge of it. Also never played the deck 1v1 as I know Ill be murdered. But I don't mean to come off rude! I am always playing this deck and all your suggestions are in the side board. They will be rotated in and possibly permeant as the deck evolves! Thank you again! and happy deck building

Vasseer on [Primer] Nightmare by Design

1 week ago

First I'd like to say that this is almost certainly one of the best Chainer decks I've seen (though most chainer decks are not very good). Buut... (also, I did read the description for each card before commenting)

Nether Traitor seems quite bad. In general the card is bad, it's body is totally irrelevant and Reassembling Skeleton is basically always better if you're just sacrificing it. There are a few decks that can justify both but you would need a lot more to make it work.

Dictate of Erebos seems fantastic here, pact is great, dictate is often > pact

Mindcrank wtf, maybe I'm missing something but I absolutely cannot figure out why you would want to play this card, it actually just helps your opponents and I can't see any combo with it. I guess it gives you more stuff to chainer, but I would honestly rather play Chimney Imp than this card (Actually Chittering Rats might not be bad). (If you cast exsanguinate for 20 and still need mindcrank to win, you need to rethink your deck)

Library of Leng again wtf, this card has two effects that have both been printed on lands (Reliquary Tower and Nephalia Academy) and don't even seem like effects this deck wants. Why is this here? (Note that with necro you can just discard your creatures and reanimate them with chainer in response to the exile trigger to keep them so it's not even insane there)

Dark Depths I mean if you're already playing stage and map... Hardcasting Marit Lage is a real thing too.

Despise is usually worse than Duress I can see an argument for it over that, but it over Thoughtseize, Mind Twist, or Hymn to Tourach seems strictly incorrect.

Night's Whisper tends to be a bit better than SiB as it can't be misdirected which in my experience comes up more than the life loss.

Sensei's Divining Top given that you already play fetches and with all this tutoring, top seems very good.

Darkness - A black fog existing does not mean you should be playing it, going down a card to gain a bit of life is not a good trade. Hence why mono green decks don't play fog.

Rune-Scarred Demon I guess I could understand not playing this for the same reason as Sheoldred, but Sheoldred is significantly worse than this card..

If you're playing Contamination you are clearly open to no fun allowed options - Infernal Darkness is basically contamination but for the first 5 turns of it being in play the overall cost is lower than maintaining it with chainer activations.

Skullclamp - You're playing a sacrifice deck, but are not playing the best sacrifice deck card ever printed, just blanked or intentional?

This deck is missing the absurdly broken Chainer card that is Laquatus's Champion. Now this card may seem garbo at a glance but it's true power surfaces when you have an altar in play, he becomes a 1 card + lots of mana combo to kill people. Step 1) Chainer him into play. Step 2) Resolve the life loss trigger. Step 3) Sac him, put the life gain trigger on the stack. Step 4) Respond to the trigger by going back to step 1, repeat until the chosen player is dead. It gets even better when you have Exquisite Blood in play and you actually get to not die while doing it! (This combo may be awful, 100% worth testing though, also chainer make Laquatus's Champion so 10/10 flavor)

Demon86RM on Meren's Morbid Masterpiece

1 week ago

Another sick one maybe could be Tooth and Nail entwined and fetching for Ulvenwald Hydra + Thief of Blood: make the hydra's ability to resolve first and search the library for Dark Depths to put into play, then thief of blood's etb resolves and gets all the counters from all permanents in form of +1/+1 and you get a nice 20/20 Marit Lage

What do you think?

k1llampt that is a nice one, i got it in my Meren deck. I have also Melira, Sylvok Outcast so if Mikaeus it's not available for any reason i got another combo piece. You can also use Woodfall Primus and destroy all opponents lands to make them scoop.

SacriFace on Death & Taxes 2.0

2 weeks ago

LeaPlath like i sad, i agree with you on Elbrus i just like the card. I started building the deck after i found Elbrus so... and yes, there are not many token deck in legacy, but i have it if i meet one and i can use it agains Dark Depths combo. But thank you for the advice man, i will play Hallowed Moonlight for now to test it more, but if it does not work i will replace it with Containment Priest

PartyJ on Breya, the Combo Shaper

3 weeks ago

@ 5007-574IN3D : Dark Depths is legal in the normal Commander rules.

5007-574IN3D on Breya, the Combo Shaper

3 weeks ago

Isn't Dark Depths banned in Commander?

Spoosky on Everybody Loves Hypnotoad - The Gitrog [[Primer]]

4 weeks ago

Hi, maybe Vampire Hexmage, for you Dark Depths, think in more wincons, craterhoof, avenger of zendikar, if you add that you may considerer natural order and Chord of Calling

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