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Fire-Lit Thicket Discussion
1 week ago
Hey, looks good, looks fun.
Consider adding these cards:
- Command Tower
- Sol Ring
- Chromatic Lantern
- Greater Good
- Quicksilver Amulet
- Elvish Piper
- Eladamri's Call
- Summoner's Pact
- Eternal Witness
- Nature's Lore
- Woodfall Primus
- Iona, Shield of Emeria
- Day of Judgment
- By Force
Cards to consider cutting:
- Colossus of Akros
- Emrakul, the Promised End
- Nylea, God of the Hunt
- Primordial Hydra
- Ulvenwald Hydra
- Brutalizer Exarch
- Collected Company
- Eerie Interlude
- Boundless Realms
- Primal Surge
- Release the Gremlins
- Boros Garrison
Consider these cards to make the deck more competitive:
- Scroll Rack
- Fetch Lands
- Sneak Attack
- Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
- Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
- Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
- Blightsteel Colossus
Rack is busted with Mayael. You can repeatedly use cards in your hand to set-up the top of your library so when you look at the top five with Mayael you'll always have a creature to cheat into play. Sneak is excellent as an alternative way to cheat big creatures onto the battlefield while giving them haste. The Eldrazi: Kozilek and Ulamog are among the biggest and best creatures to cheat into play. Annihilator is busted with haste and when these Eldrazi/Blightsteel are sac EOT they go back into your library.
Competitive Commander manabases use Fetch lands. They're especially good with three, four and five color decks because they give you so many choices of lands since they can tutor for dual lands. ETB tapped lands are not what you want to play when being competitive. You want all your lands to ETB untapped so you can use the mana they provide the turn you play them otherwise you'll get too far behind, not able to cast spells. Consider these lands for a more competitive manabase: Fetch lands, Shock lands (already have them), Battle lands (already have them), Battlebond lands, Filter lands, Check lands, Rainbow lands?
Consider this more competitive manabase example:
- Ancient Tomb
- Arid Mesa
- Bloodstained Mire
- Bountiful Promenade
- Canopy Vista
- Cinder Glade
- Clifftop Retreat
- Command Tower
- Fire-Lit Thicket
- Flooded Strand
- Homeward Path
- Mana Confluence
- Kessig Wolf Run
- City of Brass
- Reflecting Pool
- Rootbound Crag
- Rugged Prairie
- Sacred Foundry
- Spire Garden
- Stomping Ground
- Sunpetal Grove
- Temple Garden
- Reliquary Tower
- Windswept Heath
- Wooded Bastion
- Wooded Foothills
- Yavimaya Hollow
- 5 Forest
- 2 Plains
- 1 Mountain
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
3 months ago
Lets have a look at some possible additions: Savage Ventmaw would be good as you can haste it then get 3 and 3 the same turn, allowing you to cast more.
Hydra Omnivore For those bigger games, and his a big boy.
Etali, Primal Storm For those same cast turn swings that should get you some nice stuff.
Ruric Thar, the Unbowed would be amazing, more so if you're looking at going creature focused.
Hellkite Tyrant for steeling all the artifacts and a long drawn wincon (Vs artifact decks).
Mina and Denn, Wildborn should replace on of your elves.
Blightsteel Colossus is also a big wincon for you.
That's it for creatures for now.
Chaos Warp its an important card in red, its removal of used for keeping your own things safe. This is a fantastic instant for you.
Blasphemous Act is an amazing removal card you should add.
And Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is highly recommended.
OH! don't forget Ghalta, Primal Hunger
5 months ago
I think you may want to be a bit more careful with the phrase "price is no issue." It's one thing to say you're willing to spend a couple hundred bucks to pack in some real firepower, but if you tell folks there's no ceiling on this Wonkavtor I can (and will!) go ahead and suggest a $1000 in mana base upgrades.
Shocks - Blood Crypt, Stomping Ground, Overgrown Tomb
Shocks are very strong in EDH because the damage they do is mitigated by starting at 40 life, and it's an option you elect as needed. They also boast land types, which makes them ramp targets
- Mana Crypt - If you have the cash this is an auto include; it's a 2nd Sol Ring
- Worn Powerstone - Strong in any deck with a moderate to high CMC
- Kodama's Reach - A second Cultivate, which is good enough to want two of
- Skyshroud Claim, Hunting Wilds, Ranger's Path - If you have duals with the "Forest" type these all become very powerful
- Tempt with Discovery - Hits nonbasics, the more opponents that bite the more it benefits you
- Ulvenwald Hydra - Ramp on legs, hits nonbasics
You can save a good deal of money and cut all the / lands without hurting yourself much since the deck is mostly , and ramp lets you fix. Though they're still strictly better than just a straight Swamp or Mountain. That said, even at 50% green spells that's not enough reason to be running Emerald Medallion over basically any rock.
Alright, that about covers it for the mana base. I've run out of suggestion boxes so I'll break this into two posts.
8 months ago
A serious comment:
Okay, like the deck, but it's best plays are fast, Noble Hierarch is an Elvish Mystic that can pump in this deck, and this deck really needs the turn one Birds of Paradise, it allows red, and though you run the Fire-Lit Thickets, it doesn't play out well too often with the Noble Hierarch unless you get Groundbreaker.
Ima go build up a faster version of this deck, possibly running a naya burn style deck with Boros Charm, but instead of a normal burn deck, what I love about this, is it shows how to build a more midrangy burn deck, with larger, more impactful damage.
9 months ago
Yess that will works :)
The rest is to upgrade land section. Shocklands is a must. You dont want most of your land ETB tapped all the time, it will leave you far behind than your opponents.
Dual lands from BFZ is fine but inconsistant, your basic lands is quite low. And why dont you bring Farseek, Skyshroud Claim, Tempt with Discovery or Krosan Verge(the worst) maybe ? it will help you search and fix color by finding your duallands.
City of Brass Forbidden Orchard Reflecting Pool is a key to 5 color deck, they dont ETB tapped and fix colors. You dont want to have Cinder Glade or Canopy Vista on your first turn and cannot drop your Birds of Paradise
10 months ago
i have changed up the deck to make it less expensive by taking out one of the lands which ran at 32 dollars each, because it really didn't give us a big advantage with our mana. Just so you guys know. The land was Fire-Lit Thicket. It would not change to a non-foil version of the card, that is why it was running at $32.
1 year ago
...FOR NON BUDGET
While these are more expensive, they are the better kinds of mana fixing you can find for EDH
Alpha Duals are another consideration but they are over 100$ a piece, outside of most peoples budget. Same goes for Gaea's Cradle.
Lastly, some of these are cheap and some are not, but every EDH deck should have some utility lands like the ones you have in Rogues Passage and Kher Keep. Some other ones are-
Barren Moor and other mono colored cycle lands
Raging Ravine and other creature lands