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Karador, Ghost Chieftain
Legendary Creature — Centaur Spirit
Karador, Ghost Chieftain costs less for each creature card in your graveyard.
During each of your turns, you may cast one creature card from your graveyard.
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Karador, Ghost Chieftain Discussion
1 week ago
Hey i almost forgot if you wanted to see how i play meren feel free to check out my deck Merens' Risen its not perfect or anything, but in a multiplayer play group (even with competetive decks ranging from Nicol Bolas , to Padeem, Consul of Innovation , to Karador, Ghost Chieftain and blah blah blah you get the point lol) usually have to team up on me to not have a one sided game. But in response to what you said i agree meren is a reanimator, and there are some killar stax decks with her for ex: [PRIMER] Death & Staxes: Competitive Meren EDH is a killar deck, but just not the theme i enjoyed diving into with meren, for that im building Kaitain politics(competitive Control) feel free to check that out as well its my new deck im working on
1 month ago
Okay. Well with control and aristocrats I can do some work.
Okay so for aristocrats, Meren of Clan Nel Toth is obviously the “tierest” of them all. But for more casual folks like me there are good options too. Queen Marchesa , Sedris, the Traitor King , Prossh, Skyraider of Kher , Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper , Karador, Ghost Chieftain , Ghave, Guru of Spores , some other guy + Ravos, Soultender (my pick goes to Reyhan, Last of the Abzan ), and as was pointed out prior, Teysa Karlov (along with the many other good aristocrat legends in those colors- my Teysa deck runs 7 potential commanders), but if you want something a lil more out there, Judith, the Scourge Diva , Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker , or a few listed up there (especially the grixis picks) will do ya well.
Now for control? I play this deck with Karlov of the Ghost Council that SLAPS- it basically just puts “drops in the bucket”, casting a bunch of permanents that gain consistent, small bundles of life, and basically exiles anything of consequence that an opponent plays.
Sedris, the Traitor King could actually be a really fun sort of “2-for-1.deck”, focusing on getting a lot of value out of the cards in your grave? Good blockers with death triggers that you can recur, flashback spells, self-mill? Though I suppose that could be said for a few of the above aristocrat generals...
Maybe an aristocrat deck that focuses on wasting enemies’ resources until they peter out? Seems kinda fun in Abzan, Grixis, ... maybe a four-color combo?
1 month ago
Like Sisay, but More Colors
Back in My Day They Were Just Creatures!
Those Who Forget History are Doomed to Lose to it.
RIP Kamigawa (Legend Tribal)
Saskia: the Stuff of Legends
Big Sassy's Legendary Horde (note: Big Sassy as a nickname for Saskia can be used in any of these names)
Legendary Night at Saskia's Bar
History Has its Eyes on You (it's a musical reference, if you don't get it)
That's all I got for names- this one was tough! Now, suggestions:
Adun Oakenshield is okay recursion, Anafenza, the Foremost is a good body, Captain Lannery Storm is good ramp, Dosan the Falling Leaf is good against control, Grand Warlord Radha is great ramp, Hua Tuo, Honored Physician is good recursion, Isamaru, Hound of Konda is a gud boi (and a one-drop), Kambal, Consul of Allocation is good taxation without representation, Karador, Ghost Chieftain is SICK and also very flavorfully appropriate for this deck, Kothophed, Soul Hoarder is great draw, Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip is a good body, Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist is good protection, Ravos, Soultender is good recursion, Rhonas the Indomitable is good but you'll have to see if you like God-Eternal Rhonas better (I like OG Rhonas better unless your repeating God-Eternal's ETB), Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper is good block deterrence, one of the Tajics ( Tajic, Blade of the Legion or Tajic, Legion's Edge ), both are good bodies, Tana, the Bloodsower is good body + chump blockers, Tariel, Reckoner of Souls is good recursion, Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor is good fun, and Zurgo Helmsmasher is a surprisingly fun political piece.
Also, I'd really recommend you include planeswalkers, and also you're running two Selvalas and two Odrics.
1 month ago
DrukenReaps def gonna check that out, thanks!
Mj3913 that looks wild lol. Not sure if I want another 5color deck, but thanks
Gleeock I'm sitting on one, but it looks kinda challenging and aggressive. Any chance you have a decklist?
Rzepkanut I literally just sold my Ramos lol. Plus, I already have a 5 color, so idk about him.
Boza ok, I like that advice a lot. Especially bc Villainous Wealth is one of my favorite cards. Used to run a Sidisi, Brood Tyrant deck, but I switched to Karador, Ghost Chieftain . But maybe I'll switch back to Sidisi, or check out Muldrotha? I think that would be more fun for me tbh. Def gonna look at your builds. Thanks!
Demarge definitely agree, and I have a few in mind
1 month ago
Looks great! Cards like Aura Shards and Return to Dust are edh allstars (I'm guessing one of the cards you skipped was Vampiric Tutor ? That one's pretty good too), and there's a bunch of gameplan-specific cards like Buried Alive and Dread Return that will work perfectly with Karador, Ghost Chieftain . Some other staples you might want to add are Eternal Witness and Sol Ring .
First thing you should probably change is playing 2x Makeshift Mannequin ... I know you're into playing banned cards and everything, but this format has RULES!
I'd also look for is more ways to get things into the graveyard. Right now, I see you've got:
The consistent options are great, since they allow you flexibility to find any answer, support synergies, and aren't going to whiff. The inconsistent options don't have the same upsides. The main reason you'd want to play them is to grind out value, so I think Perpetual Timepiece and Nyx Weaver could work (although I've been looking for an excuse to try Grindclock because I'd imagine it can take over a game if let's unintended for a few turns). Corpse Connoisseur is only useful if it's already in the graveyard, and Entomb might be a better option. Extractor Demon has the same issue where it's overcosted for a Thought Scour effect. Overall, since you only have three or so creatures that benefit from being cheated out from the graveyard, cards like Satyr Wayfinder might end up hitting things like Harrow , Buried Alive , etc. too often. This means you're probably going to have to play more self-mill type cards to justify cards like Ramunap Excavator .
Some options to get stuff into the yard: Grim Flayer Underrealm Lich Life from the Loam Golgari Grave-Troll (not my favorite since you don't draw a card, but if you have enough graveyard effects, it could work)
Sylvan Ranger seems strictly worse than both Sakura-Tribe Elder (puts the land into play and puts himself in the graveyard to reduce Karador cost) and Rampant Growth . There seem to be a couple cards like this that are meant to provide some enter-the-battlefield trigger and then get sacrificed for value, but I only see Viscera Seer , Cartel Aristocrat , and Bloodthrone Vampire . That means most of the time you play cards like Elvish Visionary , it'll just be a 1/1 on the battlefield. Viscera Seer is fantastic, but the other two outlets don't get you much value anyway, which makes cards like Yavimaya Elder more valuable. Looking into effects like Qasali Pridemage , Selfless Spirit , and maybe even Spore Frog is probably where you want to go, since they are situationally fantastic, can put themselves in the graveyard to cast karador, and are much stronger options to cast with Karador later in the game. They can subtly win you games sometimes. Maybe looking into things like Skullclamp could help if you want extra sac outlets, but you'd probably want ~10-15 cards that make 1/1's to justify it (not entirely sure though). It's wildly powerful though, especially if you can recur 1/1's with Karador.
Recursion: Unburial Rites Living Death Journey to Eternity Flip (imagine how fun turn two Sakura-Tribe Elder into card could be? Also can be used to protect Sheoldred, Whispering One or Karador later in the game)
Finally, figuring out how you want to use your toolbox cards ahead of time help. Right now, there are a couple good lines for Buried Alive , such as Dread Return + Sheoldred, Whispering One , but what happens if you don't have three creatures available? Then you want Unburial Rites in your deck so you can pay 3W next turn.
Some final things to hammer out: 1. What's the plan for early game? Is it playing sac outlets then creatures with ETB triggers for extra value? It is playing utility creatures like Qasali Pridemage to develop a relevant board and solid recur value later in the game? Is it to ramp as quickly as possible into huge threats? Is it getting creatures into the graveyard ASAP with Grim Flayer or Entomb so you can Reanimate something huge on turn three? It's not bad to dip into each method, but you can have the best synergies if you heavily commit to one strategy, otherwise you might end up with great curve like Reanimate , Bloodthrone Vampire , and Ramunap Excavator , but no real value. 2. What's the win condition? I'd expect reanimating huge things out providing too much value with Karador, but even the best reanimation target Sheoldred, Whispering One isn't going to close out a game. The other targets like Soul of the Harvest and Harvester of Souls are great value, but bashing with a 6/6 can only go so far. If you're going more the reanimation route, perhaps dreaming bigger like It That Betrays could help. If you play these big boys, playing Ashnod's Altar could be fun, plus I think it's got a bunch of infinite combos. Sadly, a lot of the best options like Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite are ~10-20 bucks. 3. My personal strategy would be to play a bunch of cheap value creatures like Selfless Spirit , ramp like Sol Ring and Sakura-Tribe Elder , the best graveyard stashers like Entomb and some self-mill cards (but only ones that can win me the game if left unattended, like Underrealm Lich ), 3-5 board wipes (you can always recur your threats) and the classic interaction package ( Swords to Plowshares , etc.), and probably 7-10 or so curve-topping creatures that can end games for you (from Grave Titan to It That Betrays ).
The deck looks great, it's gonna be scary in no time!
3 months ago
Yo Skulloelegy, checking out your deck since ya upvoted mine!
Have you ever thought about using Karador, Ghost Chieftain as your commander? Not to say Ghave ain't good he is great! However going for your win con being Revel in Riches , Karador provides far more support for the route your going.
I would also consider picking up some tutor effects like Sidisi, Undead Vizier , Rune-Scarred Demon , or Idyllic Tutor . Also Demonic Tutor seen a reprint so it should be good to pick one up while it's decently priced!
I would also consider running some hand disruption tactics like Sadistic Hypnotist , and Mindslicer , Dark Deal is also a hidden synergy with Smothering Tithe ! Can lead to a sneaky win that way! Vedalken Orrery is also a good addition so you can grab that win by flashing in Revel EOT.
Hope that helps and feel free to ask any questions!
3 months ago
Potential Adds: Artisan of Kozilek , Sheoldred, Whispering One , Ever After , Cauldron Dance , Unburial Rites , Infernal Offering , Fearsome Awakening , Dawn of the Dead , Whip of Erebos , Apprentice Necromancer , Life / Death , Sidisi, Brood Tyrant , Liliana Vess , Tasigur, the Golden Fang , Tormenting Voice , Karador, Ghost Chieftain , The Mimeoplasm , Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, Sedris, the Traitor King , Taigam, Sidisi's Hand , Underrealm Lich , Victimize , Sylvan Safekeeper , Realms Uncharted , Reanimate ,
Definitely put in this: Solemn Simulacrum
3 months ago
Collected Company and Aether Vial seem strange here, they're only helping cheat on small amounts of mana when you could just run more card draw and ramp in their place, doing effectively the same thing but without the chance of being dead cards. CoCo can easily whiff in this deck and is best in modern when more than 2/3rds of your deck can be played, like elves/humans/spirits, and aether vial gets one extra rat into play each turn but they have no ETB effects other than buffing, which is what that card is very good for exploiting (humans and spirits in modern again). I would add more ramp, card draw, and ways to find Thrumming Stone and Marrow-Gnawer since those are by far the most powerful effects in a rat deck. Another option is to just run Marrow-Gnawer as the commander and play cards like Caged Sun , Extraplanar Lens , and Cabal Coffers / Cabal Stronghold to double your mana. If you want to stick to green, or decide to add white with Karador, Ghost Chieftain , you can add in Zendikar Resurgent and Mirari's Wake to also double your mana, resurgent giving you extra draw also to slam rat after rat. White also gives you access to Enlightened Tutor to search for thrumming stone, which is powerful but not necessary if you want to keep it budgeted. Good luck!
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