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- Losing devotion for an enchanted god
- I have a Soul Warden and I Mercy Killing my opponent's erebos god of the dead. Do I gain life from the tokens?
- Sorin, Solemn Visitor, how you work?
- will any of the god creatures count as a creature spell even if i do not have met the devotion needed.
- How does portcullis interact with enchantment creatures?
Erebos, God of the Dead
Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
As long as your devotion to black is less than five, Erebos isn't a creature. (Each in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to black.)
Your opponents can't gain life.
, Pay 2 life: Draw a card.
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Erebos, God of the Dead Discussion
2 hours ago
I too have enjoyed this list, though there are a few things I would like to possibly suggest, what with C17, HOU ect ect
Hammer of Nazahn - First and foremost: Additional indestructibility for a creature. Second: Equipment that gives a boost. Third, and probably most importantly: another Sigarda's Aid type effect. Hammer can auto equip to a creature, and whenever more equipment enters, it can pop onto them as well (as long as you can target them!)
Crested Sunmare - You had described getting life on other people's turn; what better way to "weaponize" it or "get out of control" than to get an indestructible 5/5 at the end of each of the turns? Even if they board wipe, you STILL have an army of 5/5's (the way the game sees it, if you board wipe, everything has a "destroy" effect on it, and the horses still have indestructible during resolution, meaning you love everything BUT the tokens you made). This gives you the ability to block (lets say you swing a creature with life link or have a creature enter with a Soul Sister out) after swinging a creature or just to begin getting a huge army!
Kokusho, the Evening Star - I like Noxious Gearhulk, but part of my "concern" is flyers. With your list specifically, you have about 4 flyers and no Ghostly Prison like effects. Sure, its a life gain deck, but that still doesn't help if its all flying or an army of Craterhoof Behemoth buffed creature's are attacking all of us. Kokusho, the Evening Star also synergizes with Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, being able to sac him to not only gain life/exile something, it will also be able to drain opponent's for life, EVEN if we can't gain life. People won't necessarily want to attack with him out either, cause based on what I've seen there are quite a few ways to recur creature's here.
Ajani Steadfast - Maybe its just me, but I like the idea of Ajani Steadfast. Not only does it give +1/+1, Vigilance, First Strike AND Lifelink (again, assuming we can target our creatures), but it can also be used to put counters on ALL of our creatures (even IF we can't target our Karlov or other creatures). The Ult is pretty game winning, but I dunno how often you'll get there tbh.
Cast Out - You had mentioned using Return to Dust to be able to exile what you need or if something like Erebos, God of the Dead is copied or stolen from you, Cast Out is an instant speed use to be able to get rid of said object. In a pinch, you can also Cycle it. Can also have GREAT synergy with Treasury Thrull, since you can cycle, attack, and bring it back to your hand and STILL have the ability to cast it later on. Return to Dust IS a great card. But the problem is it only target's artifacts and enchantments. Sure, if you cast it on your turn you can get two things...but you are likely wanting to do it at EOT before you untap anyway. And, if they steal your Erebos or anything and blow up the Cast Out, all of the abilities "return it to its owner's control" (since cards never really remember who "owned" them. Sort of like Marchesa, the Black Rose.)
I think a new card that can REALLY shut down the deck, without even stopping the "life gain" part of the deck itself is Solemnity. This card just HOSES Karlov's "control" strategy and "Voltron" (in the sense of him getting out of hand) strategy. Stops your Archangel of Thune, Sunscorch Regent and, as mentioned, Karlov himself. Might not seem like much, but basically your commander is now a vanilla 2/2 that is likely going to be dealing smaller amounts of damage to try and kill that player that played Solemnity, or you will be getting rid of it ASAP.
An interesting couple of cards in the deck that I'm curious about, starts off with Leonin Shikari. I can understand the idea and synergy with Lightning Greaves, since you can just "counter" any "targeted removal" cards, but beyond that, is it really needed for other things like Sword of X and Y, Boots/Cloak and Warhammer? I am just curious how it has performed and if it really is worth an inclusion.
Umezawa's Jitte - I can get behind it, but I'm wondering if it's really worth the price tag. As mentioned, Solemnity turns it off quickly, and the creature has to deal damage (yes, I understand it is easy to do, but not if they sac it in response to damage or anything). I can also get behind picking off utility creatures, and the ability to tutor it up with the equipment tutors in the deck, but wouldn't Whip of Erebos be more..."explosive"? Karlov likes having multiple triggers of lifegain right? So Karlov with Jitte, getting two counters each time you remove counters, or blocking or even attacking with, lets say 2-3 creatures, you immediately just add 4-6 counters. Additionally, the recursion effect could be something you REALLY need to do. You recur Ayli so you can Vindicate something so you can gain life or can go off more easily. You can't get that same effect with Jitte.
Tragic Arrogance/Cataclysmic Gearhulk - These ones really through me for a loop. You really want to try and keep your board presence, so why would you get rid of the most of it? Fumigate gives you something else in addition to board wiping, but these two cards don't stop Karlov from being sacrificed. As well, if you got your Greaves and Swords and stuff out, I wouldn't want to lose them, unless its a "I need to wipe the board or die" sort of thing (like you are going up against a Daretti deck and you just gotta get rid of all of the artifacts or you die, or Breya player is tapped out without a way to counter your spells). I can get behind cards that help with the "voltron" strategy, but I just feel like it would be better to make Karlov and a Soul Sister or something else important indestructible, then board wipe and still have a bunch of things and can swing in. Sort of like an In Garruk's Wake, but you lose some things too.
I'm curious what your thoughts on the matter are and to hear a good discussion!
1 day ago
I like the deck! Here are a few things I would change
1: If your heart is set on Knight tribal with Haakon, consider a way to get Haakon into your graveyard to utilize him to his maximum effectiveness! Command Beacon is a wonderful card to do this. Vanquisher's Banner also provides a nice buff to your whole team
2: If you're maybe not feeling Knight tribal and want to focus purely on life-gain/loss, Erebos, God of the Dead is definitely the one you want. Shuts off your opponents' lifegain and allows you to turn life into cards!
Hope this helps!
1 week ago
@Despite_Myself: Your feedback is appreciated. Chandra's Ignition is already in the deck, but I will consider side boarding Temur Battle Rage for 1v1 matches with friends. Arguel's Blood Fast though I think you miss the point of the cards inclusion. It is a better for of Greedthat utilizes the extra life as a no penalty cost much like my commander and cards like Toxic Deluge, Necropotence, Erebos, God of the Dead, and Dark Confidant.
1 week ago
@ on God of Goats
2 weeks ago
Anaba Ancestor seems really bad- it doesnt get any real benefit from your commander because you have to not attack with it to maintain its ability, or its just a 2 mana 1/1. Plus, on board +1/+1 just is not a very powerful effect, even if repeatable.
Similarly, Flurry of Horns seems underwhelming. You have to get up to 5 mana, and then you get two vanilla 2/3s. This is the top end of your curve, and still does very little for you. Anything that is five or more mana should be really powerful. Thus, the cards that I feel are too expensive for their effect are: Flurry of Horns, Master of Cruelties, Warchanter of Mogis, Behold the Beyond (what three cards would you tutor for after spending 7 mana? There really isnt any way to use this to help you win- it can be a lot of value, sure, but youre probably off with either straight up draw or cheaper tutors to get your draw), Minotaur Aggressor, and then replace Plague Wind with In Garruk's Wake, at least. It is almost strictly better.
This deck seems like it could make use of a Whip of Erebos, if only for the life gain. You have a lot of pain effects, and Whip of Erebos is a very powerful artifact with both utility and circumstantial advantage.
A lot of your card draw comes from one time sorceries or Costly Plunder. It feels like this deck could use some more repeatable card draw, like Greed or Erebos, God of the Dead, or even some of the red psuedo draw like Outpost Siege and Chandra, Torch of Defiance. You may also want Phyrexian Arena, but you dont get to choose whether to draw that card. Other good cards for card advantage: Commune with Lava, Oracle's Vault, Stromkirk Occultist, Chandra, Flamecaller (wheel), vance's blasting cannons , Arguel's Blood Fast, Conqueror's Galleon, Ob Nixilis Reignited, Tamiyo's Journal, and The Scorpion God.
Ok I g2g, but looks good! looking forward to playing this!
3 weeks ago
I have a mono black devotion too if you want to check it out Black Merchant of Devotion.
Gifted Aetherborn is super awesome, in my experience with this deck, it slows down enemy offensive ideas due to deathtouch and it has lifelink if you want to attacck/defend. Erebos, God of the Dead was in my deck at the beginning but it prooved useless, 4 drops was just too slow.
3 weeks ago
Just some recent changes:
Mathas has just been too slow and only really pays off with a board wipe. He isn't terrible - just mediocre. Erebos has always fitted perfectly into the deck - not the most exciting card either but efficient and useful.
Sheoldred, the Whispering One -> Insurrection Insurrection is just a more powerful card which wins games. Sheoldred doesn't really fit into the style of the deck either - if I want the recursion some time in the future I will probably use a Sun Titan.
I've also put in Arcbond, Grenzo, Havoc Raiser & Vampire Nighthawk after drawing inspiration from precociousapprentice's very cool Queen Marchesa deck. I've played with Arcbond before in an old infect deck and its surprisingly powerful. Fits very well into my build of Queen Marchesa.
4 weeks ago
As your deck list is pretty big so I thought I would give you some ideas for cards to cut.
Akroma, Angel of Fury: good, but does not have a big enough effect for commander
Anger: you're only running 2 mountains
Duergar Hedge-Mage good card but again, you are only running 4 mountains and 6 plains
Fallen Angel: you don't really have a use for a sac engine.
Jayemdae Tome: Just not great
Wrecking Ball no need for land destruction and there is better creature removal
Ghostly Prison:fine cared but has no real reason to be in this deck
Vow of Duty: just run a removal spell
Earthquake, Evincar's Justice, Pyrohemia, Sulfurous Blast: The mardu colors are the king of board wipes, run something better. ie. Damnation, Toxic Deluge, Wrath of God, Chain Reaction, Phyrexian Rebirth, and Decree of Pain to name a few
Congregate: don't need the life gain. Unless of course you play lots of token decks
Liliana of the Dark Realms: you have 3 swamps
you have a good amount of good creature but because your commander relies on your hand here are some more card draw ideas:Ambition's Cost, Ancient Craving, Bloodgift Demon, Damnable Pact, Dragon Mage, Erebos, God of the Dead, Harvester of Souls, Necrologia, Night's Whisper, Ob Nixilis Reignited, Painful Truths, Sign in Blood, Skeletal Scrying, Underworld Connections, Wretched Confluence, and Read the Bones.
More additional combat phase spell would also greatly benefit you. World at War, Aurelia, the Warleader, Fury of the Horde, Hellkite Charger, Relentless Assault, Savage Beating, Scourge of the Throne, Seize the Day, Waves of Aggression
in case you haven't already you may want to check out https://edhrec.com/commanders/kaalia-of-the-vast for more card ideas.
Looks like a great start, hope my comments were helpful