: Gain one mana of any colour that a land an opponent controls could produce.
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|Want (10)||WillPhil99 , dustybrush , pksword1 , Robohobobobo , shpadoinkle , Kotu , kirschwasser , QuantumKami , Aurit , Streyken|
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|Commander Anthology 2018 (CM2)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2017 (C17)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2015 (C15)||Uncommon|
|MTG: Commander (CMD)||Uncommon|
|Masters Edition III (ME3)||Common|
|Ninth Edition (9ED)||Uncommon|
|Ninth Edition Foreign Black Border (9EDFBB)||Uncommon|
|Fifth Edition (5ED)||Uncommon|
|Fourth Edition (4ED)||Uncommon|
|4th Edition Foreign Black Border (4EDFBB)||Uncommon|
|The Dark (DRK)||Uncommon|
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Fellwar Stone Discussion
1 day ago
I took a quick look, and your curve is there. It seems to be a bit heavy at CMC 5. If you're having issues with being able to play your cards, I'd suggest you replace 5 CMC cards with more ramp spells. Since it's an aristocrats deck, Gold Myr and Leaden Myr may be useful. Other than that, you have Fellwar Stone, Everflowing Chalice, Skyclave Relic, Worn Powerstone, and Wayfarer's Bauble should help you ramp better. Land Tax is sort of like ramp, and it's a very strong card. It also lets you shuffle your deck any turn you want to.
2 days ago
Nice build! My only suggestions are cutting Chromatic Lantern--you really shouldn't need it in two colors. A Thought Vessel would do you well, if you added it. Similar deal with Exotic Orchard, the mana fixing just isn't necessary... just add an island :). I would also consider cutting Dimir Cluestone in favor for Fellwar Stone: two-mana rocks are just so good!
1 week ago
I have a Gisa & Geralf deck too! Rooftop Experiments (Zombie Tribal).
So you say this decks needs some help. I've looked over it and here are my thoughts:
First off, it looks really good. I love your creature selection. It appears you're going somewhat wide with a "regular" aggro plan, so I'll be basing my suggestions off that. From what I've seen of your other decks you have something of a budget (as do I!) so I'll refrain from just suggesting every big-time upgrade on EDHREC.
One thing is it looks like you only have four or five ramp pieces. Personally I aim for at least eight in all my decks that don't have a ramp strategy, and more for those that do. Perhaps three more? I've found that I really like casting a spell from hand then casting a zombie from the graveyard as much as possible, so you'll be happy with the extra mana. Fellwar Stone is good for the Havengul Lich. Consider Mind Stone, Wayfarer's Bauble, Talisman of Dominance, Star Compass, Sky Diamond, Charcoal Diamond, or perhaps Black Market.
You're also at around five or six card-draw cards. Could be better, but it's not bad--especially since you have so much card advantage coming from the graveyard. Still, hand refills are always nice and it's nice to draw into answers. Windfall is good for graveyard-y decks. Perhaps a big hand-refiller like Mind Spring, Tidings, or Overflowing Insight? You would often have The City's Blessing for Kumena's Awakening if you can't afford a Phyrexian Arena and/or Rhystic Study. Rain of Revelation has a hint of graveyard synergy, and stuff like Reconnaissance Mission and Keep Watch synergize with your go-wide build.
Sidisi, Undead Vizier is premium in Gisa & Geralf decks. Can't recommend her enough. Great way to get Rooftop Storm out!
1 week ago
I would recommend against using Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth when most of your lands are swamps anyway. You might just end up helping your opponents out by fixing their mana for them, while you yourself aren't really getting any of the benefit of using it. Other than that, I'd just recommend running a few more mana rocks like Mind Stone and Fellwar Stone for ramping up quicker.
Fun deck. Hope this helps. :^)
1 week ago
I would just recommend cutting 4 or so lands and replacing them with mana rocks. Sol Ring, Fellwar Stone, more talismans and signets are all good options. You might also benefit from cutting some other things that you aren't as attached to and including some control magic like Counterspell, Swan Song, and Dovin's Veto just to make sure your big stuff actually resolves and to police the board a bit.
Hope this helped. :^)
1 week ago
So I'm not a Kykar pilot, but from what I've seen of them they're a big fan of infinite combos. A few that I know of involve achieving infinite cast triggers to feed Kykar's token generation, coupled with damaging etb effects like Impact Tremors and Purphoros, God of the Forge. Sac damage outlets such as Goblin Bombardment and Barrage of Expendables also do the trick. Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter is a big go to not only for infinite cast triggers, but infinite mana as well when combined with nonland mana producers. Another option would be to combine your Jeskai Ascendancy with a Retraction Helix and any 0-1 mana artifact. Use Helix to return your own artifact to your hand and then cast it. You'll then untap your creatures, make a spirit, sac the spirit for mana, and use Helix again to repeat the cycle. If you can do this with a 0 mana artifact it's also limitless creatures and mana. Good artifacts to use with this would be Everflowing Chalice, Spellbook, Sensei's Divining Top (not budget, I know, but it's a good pick for Kykar if you ever want to add more to it), and Sol Ring. There's also Arcane Adaptation and Bishop of Wings.
For general EDH deck building I think can be of some more use lol. Starting with your lands, I would recommend subbing out a lot of your lands that come in tapped. There are a lot of nice (fairly) budget options for multicolored lands like pain, filter, and check lands. If you can't find multicolored lands within your price range I would suggest just going with basics. Personally, I think that the speed benefit of a basic coming in untapped trumps the versatility that tapped lands will eventually provide.
As for rocks I'd recommend running the aforementioned Sol Ring and Everflowing Chalice. Sol Ring is just one of those cards that slots into just about every commander deck. As a general rule I try to avoid mana rocks at 3 cmc or above, just because that's around the point where they stop generating enough value to be worth running or even casting. You want your ramp to be hard and fast so that you can transition into making plays sooner. You don't want to be ramping on turn 5 when you could be pulling off big combos. In this regard you've already done really well in your selection, but I would suggest cutting Commander's Sphere and Chromatic Lantern. Lantern has its place in certain more color intensive decks, but I don't necessarily think you'll be needing it in a 3 color deck. Other good 2 cost options are Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, and Prismatic Lens. Wayfarer's Bauble in your maybeboard is a good choice for this deck too.
You could probably use more efficient counters for controlling the board, like Counterspell. Some good commander counters include Swan Song, Flusterstorm, Delay, Negate, Dovin's Veto. Muddle the Mixture is a fantastic pick for flexible control and fetching your combo pieces. It hits both pieces of the Isochron combo, Bishop of Wings, and it can hit other valuable targets like Cyclonic Rift (another big commander card. Almost an auto include in blue decks). You'll also probably want to run more removal like Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares, and Chaos Warp.
Finally, just as misc recommendations, I'd suggest swapping out Fumigate for Wrath of God. I'd also suggest adding in some mana sinks to win the game off of once you go infinite, like Comet Storm and Kumano, Master Yamabushi.
Overall this is really solid for a first time draft! I like your deck a lot and if you do decide to expand into commander I really hope you enjoy it. Hope this helped. :^)
1 week ago
So, finally stopping by to give some suggestions! The suggestions I'll make are based off of optimizing, so if budget is an issue, then some of my ideas may not be very helpful. I'll list out my thoughts in bullet format, so here we go!
Mana Dorks: I personally am not a fan of mana dorks. They are low cost and can give ramp, however they are incredibly vulnerable and are dud cards in the late game. Instead of mana dorks, I'd suggest shifting off of them towards mana rocks like Worn Powerstone, Arcane Signet, and Fellwar Stone. Artifacts are a lot stickier than creatures and more reliable vs destruction cards.
Board Wipes: I personally didn't think there was enough space in my deck for more than 3 boards wipes, but they are important. While Boompile says nonland permanents, it is unreliable at best, so I'd recommend swapping that for an O Stone.
Draw: You have 3 sorcery speed draw cards and one instant speed draw card. They are extremely situational card draw and, I believe, unreliable. The issue with them is that they are reliant on higher power creatures and/or multiple creatures. I would favor cards with more consistent draw power, such as The Great Henge, Elemental Bond, and Guardian Project which allow you to draw whenever you cast a creature card is much more consistent and can ultimately draw you a ton more cards than those one off spells. On top of that, the enchantment draw card you do use, Colossal Majesty, only triggers its effect with a power 4 or greater creature which you only have 7 (8 if your commander has 4 or more lands on the field) creatures that meet that requirement. I'd definitely cut that for one of my other draw suggestions. I'd also eliminate Regal Force, as its cost is entirely too high for how situational its draw effect is.
Let me know if you want any other suggestions, these are what I can think of at the moment! Here's a link to my deck build for anyone who is interested:
Commander / EDH
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2 weeks ago
TriusMalarky Awesome, thanks for thinking along! I like these nitty-gritty disussions.
Re: tapped lands suck
First off: My current tapped-count is at 6 (wilds, terramorphic, necro, path, vivid x 2) - I guess you could count 2 tango and 2 checklands for 0.5 tapland each, bringing our total to 8. With 37 lands I actually think the odds are pretty decent that I can run T1 tapland, T2 untapped land, enabling my 2cmc ramp spells and going from there. I'm therefore not sure this is all too bad, but a bit more in depth:
The idea behind Vivid Creek and Vivid Marsh is that they're lands that function as 3c lands most of the time (especially during set-up), and with proliferation going all of the time. It's also possible to use them without removing counters if you're using them on ramp for example, so it's not like they always deplete. I agree the tapped clause is a real cost for something that's not guaranteed, and I could be convinced they're not as great as I think they are, but I think they'd do OK.
I agree Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse aren't the best. I have thought about replacing these with tapped duals, but those don't help out my tango / check lands. It's very possible regular basics are better here though.
Awesome suggestion. They're more powerful than the vivid cycle for sure and, don't get me wrong, providing 2 mana as a land is amazing but:
they're not basics
they come into play tapped
they don't fix my mana
they end up literal dead really quickly if i don't find a proliferation piece (not having played the deck, this concerns me the most)
I'm tempted to try them because when it works it's amazing, but I don't think they're a slam dunk except for when you're in magical christmas land. I need to think about the times when the deck's not firing on all cilinders more than when everything's already going great (i.e. i have time to proliferate). If it turns out that i easily proliferate all the time i'll add them asap.
Re: Ramp and artifacts
This gets me to 4 signets, 3 talismans, chalice, prism, sol ring, that's 10 ramp < 3cmc. Adding cornucopia and relic gives me 12 which should get me one in hand roughly 60% of the time (almost 90% if you count the free mulligan as 7 extra looks) - which is great. Looking at my curve most of my business happens at 4cmc, so getting there asap is key.
Hard disagree on Throne of Geth. Have you played with this card? (I haven't.) It seems I'll have some (maybe even a lot of) spare artifacts lying around, which makes this repeated, instant speed proliferation. Absolute worst-case you can sac it to itself. I'd even argue this is very efficient (and cheap), even though the resource cost for using it is different. It seems like a great thing to copy with something like Saheeli, Sublime Artificer too.
Lithoform Engine may be inefficient, but doubling proliferate triggers or god-forbid planeswalker ultimates is simply too spicy not to run. You could be right but if this isn't the home for this card I'd like to find out.
I have to agree on Solemn Simulacrum - it's too expensive for the deck and doesn't really do much other than provide generic value. I think I'll cut this for another walker, maybe I'll try Jace, Cunning Castaway for the memes.
Thanks again for you time, I look forward to your reply