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Unspeakable Symbol Discussion
2 weeks ago
PhotogenicParasympathetic - I tried to make the counters tougher to get so this wouldn't just turn into extraturns.dec that starts spamming extra turns on like turn 3-4... that's Narset's job lol. I tried to make this guy a challenge to build around but the reward is there and worth it.
The 2 abilities requiring both creatures and non-creatures means you gotta think outside the box for your counters and creatures. Tokens, Unspeakable Symbol (probably breaks this), Drana, Liberator of Malakir , etc.
TypicalTimmy - I went counters when your stuff dies in order to balance this card a bit and keep it from being easily (or more accurately, quickly) broken. I like the -1-1 counter thing (I'd want your version in BUG colors) but I don't think it should get the counters off non-creature spells or on 'cast'.
That's pretty scary when the payoff is going to be non-creature spells. This would be especially true if the deck were made competitively thanks to cards like Ponder, Preordain, Brainstorm, etc. that dig and replace themselves coupled with extra turns and a reduction on instant speed answers to back it up.
Would a reduction on 'Non-Creature Permanent Spells' be a better way to balance this in your guys' opinions? I don't think I like it as much but it's an option...
1 month ago
Oh, yeah, touche, I have Meteor Golem in my modular build, but didn't think of it for this one. It's harder to recur in this deck as apposed to artifact tribal, but definitely worth it if I can get Unspeakable Symbol on the field.
2 months ago
3 months ago
Permanents that let you pay life for free are allstars in Greven. Fortunately, the ones you don't have are also cheap. Moltensteel Dragon , Souldrinker , Soul Channeling , Unspeakable Symbol are all good.
After dumping up to 16 life into these, you're total might be getting low. That's why lifelink is critical for Greven. You're missing the cheap ones again: Cartouche of Ambition , Vampiric Link , Butcher's Cleaver .
Lastly, to make Greven's menace count, you want to clear at least all but one of each opponent's creatures (without killing Greven). You aren't including Fleshbag Marauder , Plaguecrafter , Merciless Executioner , or Vona's Hunger ; all of which clear one or more creatures from EACH opponent! Not to mention some all-star Greven board wipes like Chandra's Ignition , Ritual of Soot , and Crater Hellion . Spot removal can fill the gaps; pack a few.
A couple other notes. First strike can help Greven win any combat without a scratch, regardless of blockers. Double strike is obviously better. Card draw is better on permanents: Greed and Arguel's Blood Fast Flip are good, so is erebos. Chainer, Dementia Master lets you lose life to reanimate, so does Phyrexian Delver (reanimate on a stick).
I'd add one land and some usefull bigger creatures. Get some five and six toughnesses in there and you can put Greven on the two-hit clock without a lifesink. The goal is to lose life after all.
I like where you're going with this thing. Hopefully I've shown you some cards you missed!
3 months ago
I like it!
4 months ago
I was thinking about Glistening Oil and Phyresis for this deck -- Thought it'd put too much of a target on whatever creature I equipped it to, but you have a point. If I have no way of putting counters on my infect creatures it's a moot point anyway. It's one to think about.
4 months ago
Draw is at an interesting impasse. The more evasion/trample this deck has, the more Keen Sense and Sixth Sense are viable; Running both seems overkill. Rishkar's Expertise is not half bad, but I’m torn between it, Garruk, Caller of Beasts and Vivien Reid . Inspiring Call is now leagues better with Drana. I’m still waiting for that diamond in the rough.
I’m jumping in headfirst with Dolmen Gate . Sooo many creatures sit on the board only to boost Skullbriar. This combos super well with Drana. Dolmen also acts as alternative evasion since not everyone wants to block a lose/lose.
Ouphe wrecks. So many decks play off mana rocks and artifact combo win cons. I search for him quick. Besides big cmc, I avoid those evasion-equipment because of him.
I need to buy shizo... I just can’t imagine a reprint of a weird card like that... but that $$$ hurts.
Scheming supports friendly gameplay. Like, idk if I’d be bothered playing it 1v1. EDH is supposed to be fun, not punishing.
Rite is rough around edges. High cmc, doesn’t work with dolmen, most creatures aren’t tough enough to survive the initial damage, and not a guaranteed counter. This is an aggro deck so the creatures should always be tapped and attacking. Without vigilance, Rite doesn’t work as well imo. Idk, I feel like Unspeakable Symbol and Vivien, Arkbow Ranger land more counters, but even then I feel like none of these warrant their slot. I’m pretty shoehorned into Drana and Dolmen lol
Unspeakable Symbol occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%