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Celestial Purge Discussion
2 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
mahanhen: I'm not looking to spend the money to make splashing for blue possible right now, but definitely something to consider for the future as the deck evolves.
frogkill45: My sideboard is packed enough as it is, I don't think I could fit Celestial Purge in there. Riders of Gavony isn't really needed as I have yet to run into Eldrazi or any other tribal deck, but will work if it ever becomes more relevant.
3 weeks ago
I second the above comment - you have no real turn 1 play other than Champion of the Parish. You won't be casting Brave the Elements and Path to Exileing an opposing creature on turn 1 is too much of a tempo loss. Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip and Boros Elite are good options, so is Doomed Traveler.
Secondly, I'm not sure what is the rationale behind some of your sideboard choices. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben I can understand against a combo/spell heavy deck; Rest in Peace shuts down graveyard strategies; and maybe you are bringing in Fiendslayer Paladin against Jund. Still, for the latter, I'm not sure you need 3 copies. Grand Abolisher could come in against control together with Thalia but I'm not sure you need 3 copies either. You could use some hate against artifacts, such as Stony Silence, enchantment removal such as Fragmentize and Disenchant, and just general permanent removal such as Oblivion Ring or Celestial Purge.
3 weeks ago
Celestial Purge is also a good sideboard card if you run into red or black things like, nahiri / liliana / kalitas / tasigur, gurmag.
Riders of Gavony this is one card that might be above your curve but will help vs eldrazi if you run into that often.
4 weeks ago
mtgcraig82 I'll have to cut down to 3 birds and playtest that because it makes sense with such a low curve, especially since mine is only 2.14. The benefit of getting a turn 1 Thoughtseize or Inquisition is the very reason I run the 4 Blooming Marsh. Even getting 2 in the opening hand feels like a great start and Shambling Vent can be quite the superstar in most grindy matchups, especially against control and aggro/burn decks.
I've playtested with 1 Murderous Cut and more often than not, it felt too slow or building up the delve seemed to take too long. On other occasions, it felt pretty bad to delve Lingering Souls to get the most value from delving Cut. I personally didn't like it in most matchups and in very few matchups did it actually work well enough to include in the main. I do see the value of Maelstrom Pulse in more token matchups where clearing their board is insane value (and if it's promo, why not right??). I would say there have been some mirror matches and matchups against Mardu Nahiri where Pulse would outperform Unmaking.
As far as matchups go, I strongly agree that burn, zoo, 8whack and delver matchups are some of our best. Although I haven't tested it yet, I would assume Fatal Push is strictly better than Path to Exile against zoo and 8whack builds. I've also had significant success against various Jeskai Nahiri builds (most end in 2-0 me) and Dredge for me with 2 mainboard Anafenza is about a 60-40 win ratio. Part of the reason I run Celestial Purge sideboard is for Dredge, Jund and mirror matches where the biggest threats include black and the exile gives them less value for anything graveyard based (Scavenging Ooze, Bloodghast, etc). That being said, affinity and infect though are about 50-50 and often end in draws. You have likely had better luck against Tron than I have, but I would say it is among one of the most difficult matchups to win. More often than not, an Ugin, the Spirit Dragon potentially closes the game when its minus ability exiles our creatures.
4 weeks ago
mtgcraig82 The two mainboard Qasali Pridemage is a meta call because of the affinity, infect and madcap decks in my local meta. You still make a valid point though, as I find myself frequently boarding them out otherwise. I would likely cut both for another mainboard Anafenza, the Foremost and Voice of Resurgence.
I haven't considered cutting one of the Gavony Township but I'm sure I can easily find a strong replacement. As far as the sideboard goes, I simply don't have any Fulminator Mage or Stony Silence so I substituted with what I do have. I fully agree both are strictly better however.
Lastly, thanks for the upvote and input! Much appreciated!
mtgcraig82 on Abzan
4 weeks ago
With the low curve of the deck, 24 lands is a couple too many in my opinion. I like Gavony Township a lot in the deck, but you have to think of it as a 5 drop that has dependent significance in that it requires creatures to be useful. I'd cut one.
I do not like Celestial Purge because it hits too few targets and thus could be replaced by a more versatile card.
Your description of the deck is spectacular and the breakdown is extremely well thought out!
Check out my version of Abzan Midrange if you'd like.
1 month ago
Hi again m0x,
- He is the only threat we have that is not dependant on the graveyard. By the way this is why I run such sideboard - Spell Pierce to handle Rest in Peace on the draw, Celestial Purge for Leyline of the Void and Anguished Unmaking as a catch all.
- Some decks are not playing Lightning Bolt and Fatal Push and usually we need a fast clock vs such decks
- He is pretty good with Fatal Push, because both cards improve late game fetches