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|Ultimate Masters Promo (UMAP)||Mythic Rare|
|Ultimate Masters (UMA)||Mythic Rare|
|Modern Masters 2015 Edition (MM2)||Mythic Rare|
|Rise of the Eldrazi (ROE)||Mythic Rare|
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Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Legendary Creature — Eldrazi
When you cast this spell, draw four cards.
Annihilator 4 (Whenever this creature attacks, defending player sacrifices four permanents.)
When Kozilek is put into a graveyard from anywhere, its owner shuffles their graveyard into their library.
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Kozilek, Butcher of Truth Discussion
2 days ago
I think trying out an Eldrazi Tribal deck with a Vorthos sub-theme of "Eldrazi touched" creatures may be both flavorful, and potentially powerful enough to be considered "scary" by the table. Some deck defining spells would be:
Eldrazi Conscription - to be used on your commander when you can't get the other angel out
Emrakul, the Promised End - a big game changing play that can outright change the flow of a game
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth - another big beater that nets you cards, and disrupts the board
Just to name a few. I'd rely on a lot of the various ramp cards ad that produce , and mono white ramp for support (like Smothering Tithe ). I'd also consider maybe an additional subtheme of monowhite stacks, using cards to slow the flow of play like Authority of the Consuls , Ghostly Prison , and Blind Obedience . The idea is to make other players second guess attacking you, while you continually drop in Eldritch Horrors that disrupt the boardstate in a big way. I know you're on a budget, but the previously mentioned are probably the most expensive cards i'd suggest.
2 weeks ago
+1 I read the primer, while I knew a lot of the stuff you mentioned as a Xenagos player myself, it was refreshing! I noticed you put dense folliage and plated slagwurm out of the deck, is there any particular reason? I found the reasons in the primer convincing.
As you mentioned in your primer, the worst thing that can happen in a Xenagos deck is having a blowout, getting your creature killed in response to a draw spell. Unfortunately, my meta is FILLED with interaction and spot removal, which is Xenagos's achille's heel. City of Solitude is an allstar in my list, stops blue as well. How would a Xenagos deck deal with a meta that's filled with interaction and spot removal? That's my biggest question for you. I personally don't run extra combat steps for this reason because they only help when I have a creature which sadly isn't that often despite having 31 creatures in the deck BECAUSE I become such a target. For whatever reason, people are afraid of Xenagos :D Another weakness is control decks which are just a bad time for us. While I don't run it in my list, have you considered Prowling Serpopard or even Spellbreaker Behemoth as tutorable ways to deal with blue?
Want to rack your brain regarding recursion as well. Mimic Vat is a very interesting card I never considered by will do so seriously thanks to your primer. I feel like it's exactly what I need to deal with ALL the spot removal in my meta. I added Reap the Past as well as E=wit and greenwardern. The warden might be overkill, but he works nicely with Berserk effects, that way I don't mind if they use spot removal on him.
I'm astonished you are running Thran Dynamo over Skyshroud Claim . Both can be used the same turn, but dynamo gets shut off by your own collector off and opposing null rod effects, not to mention it can get blown up. Skyshroud can color fix you as well, but thats rarely and issue for G/R players.
In your primer you mention Joraga tree speaker is like a green sol ring, but he doesn't actually "ramp" you. Play him T1, Level up T2, you have 2 green mana, no more than you would have had without him. I don't like him outside of elf-centric lists.
Voracious Hydra - Acts as a beater with trample and built in removal, or he can just get HUGE.
Decimate - 4 cards blown up for 1, huge value and can be played prior to Xenagos to clear the field. Note: You do need 4 targets, but you can always target Xenagos for the enchantment should none be on the field.
I noticed you run Return of the Wildspeaker . I think I might replace my Garruk, Primal Hunter with that. Thank you for that, I like how it's instant speed so you can use it in response to removal instead of having to pay ! Speaking of draw, have you considered The Great Henge ? Can cost just , buffs your dudes, gains you life and most importantly draw you cards. It might be better in a deck with more creatures, but I thought it worth noting nevertheless.
What are your thoughts on Shapers' Sanctuary ? Since the deck folds to spot removal, this comes down early and draws you cards. I'm going to add it to my list.
Embercleave seems weak, even with Godo tutoring it onto himself, and Xenagos + equipment buff, it becomes 8/8 trample doublestrike, so 16 damage at most for 6 mana seems weak. This doesn't take into consideration that you might draw into the equipment prior to drawing into Godo, which would suck because you would need to pay a higher cost since the deck doesn't go wide as you noted in your primer. Maybe consider Mage Slayer as well or even as a replacement? That way you're not as reliant upon Godo.
Under your section of cards you don't play, I disagree the following....
- You should run Berserk ! You won't cast it unless it will kill them and most of the time, it does, at least in my experience. There's nothing better than berserking a Lifeblood Hydra which you should add as well. It provides lifegain and more importantly card draw.
- Tooth and Nail - 9 mana for 2 creatures from your deck/hand? It's amazing with value creatures like E-wit or green warden although you don't appear to be running either. Another option is Archetype of Endurance (which has been an ALLSTAR in my deck) and a beater.
- Kozilek, Butcher of Truth - Part of me agrees with you, your deck doesn't have that mana capacity per say since your curve is low for Xenagos. The other part of me sees a 24/24 Draw 4 Cards, Annihilator 4, it won me the last few games.
Overall, I'm very impressed by this list. This seems like a beast to play against. I made my Xenagos deck's CMC higher rather than lower to the ground because that would just exacerbate how threatening I am to the table and I choose to sacrifice speed for late game resiliency. Whenever you get a chance, I would appreciate it if you could take a look at my Xenagos list Bro, or should I say, Xenabro
4 weeks ago
Looks like a solid build. I would suggest Sanctum of Ugin to utilize those high CMC cards. Unless you're planning on versing other colorless decks than All Is Dust perhaps. Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre and Kozilek, Butcher of Truth may also be favorful additions :)
1 month ago
You've got 7 ways to draw cards and they are Endbringer , Kozilek, Butcher of Truth , Kozilek, the Great Distortion , Vilis, Broker of Blood , Rhystic Study , Cryptic Command , and Finale of Revelation . 1 of which is reliable and/or good, Vilis. There is no value from Kydele, and you're just gonna have to hard cast some of the big spells. So add more card draw, but repeatable card draw too. Things like Arcanis the Omnipotent , Staff of Nin , or even Tower of Fortunes can all be used. Tower's not so good though, because it doesn't pay for itself
1 month ago
I like Walking Ballista because it’s one of the few ways I can get Marwyn back after a Gilded Drake by just dropping it with one counter and ping Marwyn. He’s tutorable removal which is never bad, plus he’s a simpler wincon that is usually more efficient than Primal Command loops. There are also times where you only have infinite mana because of a Sword of the Paruns or something, and Walking Ballista still wins the game in those situations if you have it in your hand. Kozilek, Butcher of Truth is in because he’s still good in non-infinite situations. Ten mana draw four is overcosted but it’s in my opinion better than only drawing one or two cards for less mana. Since there are so many redundant effects, as long as I can ramp to ten mana (which is almost never hard), Kozilek, Butcher of Truth will usually draw into a tutor or other mass card draw spell. In addition, once infinite mana has been acquired, he can draw your entire deck. It’s sort of like having four Elvish Visionary stapled together plus a decent plan D wincon, plus mill protection when relevant.
Return of the Wildspeaker was an auto include as soon as I saw it spoiled. I traded for a prerelease promo on prerelease weekend, I just haven’t updated the list online. I took out Carpet of Flowers , which is an amazing card, but it really depends on an opponent playing blue AND having Islands (or duals), which isn’t a guarantee.
It took me until you suggested it for me to realize how good Generous Patron is in here. I saw it on other people’s lists and thought it was bad because you don’t get to draw when you put counters on Marwyn. When you mentioned it was Divination I actually thought about it. I’m definitely going to pick one of these up, so thank you for that!
1 month ago
I would cut Walking Ballista and Kozilek, Butcher of Truth . If they're only functional when you have infinite mana then they are dead cards. Elvish Visionary + Temur Sabertooth draws your whole deck when you have infinite. Eternal Witness + Temur Sabertooth draws or tutors your whole deck depending on what's in your graveyard. Primal Command wins you the game if you have your deck in your hand, which means you can use walking ballista's slot for something with more functionality. I would run Return of the Wildspeaker and another eternal witness effect or maybe Generous Patron which acts like a Divination that beefs up marwyn and combos with temur sabertooth.
Also, what are your thoughts on Lightning Greaves ?
2 months ago
Thats alot ^^
Well, lets start off, exept Merchant Scroll i have dont rly think the others have a place in this deck :) my opinion ofc, ppl might dissagre and thats fine!
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth is there to prevent mill, wich at my LGS is often used after painter unban.
Lux Cannon is there to use when i have unlimited untaps with dramatic, but no Urza out, this has been the case many times so far, thats why its there, at my LGS there is played a brick ton of removal and counters. Aetherflux Reservoir and Chalice of Life Flip is there for the same reason :)
Expedition Map is there to get back that missing wincon pieze with Academy Ruins or Buried Ruin after a mill or when its countered or Inventors' Fair for the tutor for the missing piece. Done this many times, so it has a good place :)
And the last big question, why so many Wincons? short answere, at my LGS there is a ton of removals and counters, if you have 1 or 2, the chanse of them being countered and removed is so high that you want more than one. On top of that the chanse of drawing one half of a combo in the opening hand is MUCH higher like this, and then all it takes is one tutor instead of 2 tutors or a very lucky draw :) thats just how i see it ^^
I do agree with most of what you said, but this is a deck i actualy play at my LGS with makes me have to take into consideration what most of the ppl play there. If i just wanted to make a deck that was good and not take into consideration the LGS i am at, it would look a WHOLE lot different ;)
Thanks for your comment :D
2 months ago
You should play:
Chain of Vapor Narset, Parter of Veils , Mental Misstep Merchant Scroll Sai, Master Thopterist Arcum's Astrolabe Trail of Evidence ...literally anything that can consistently crap out artifact tokens Mirrodin Besieged
Why are you playing: Kozilek, Butcher of Truth is this just for the shuffle? Lux Cannon this is a win more card...you supposedly already have 2 artifacts so its better to play literally anything else and just activate urza Heartstone if you have infinite mana anyways then this card is a waste of your time Expedition Map ? you have perfect mana anyways is pumping 2 mana into this to grab like academy ruins the best use of mana?
why so many wincons? like you don't need chalice, aetherflux, lux cannon, and Jace. Its better to focus on 2ish combos, because your wincons are dead draws until you have the combo...I suggest Jace and Aetherflux because they dont require dramatic scepter just infinite mana and or a deck.
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