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Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Legendary Creature — Eldrazi
When you cast Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, draw four cards.
Annihilator 4 (Whenever this creature attacks, defending player sacrifices four permanents.)
When Kozilek is put into a graveyard from anywhere, its owner shuffles his or her graveyard into his or her library.
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Kozilek, Butcher of Truth Discussion
6 days ago
I was playing a match today against my friend and I was using an Esper Zombie deck that features a small milling aspect in the form of Undead Alchemist. He was using a mill / discard deck.
When I attacked with my array of tokens, Undead Alchemist does two things: 1st he prevents the damage and in it's place he makes you mill that amount. 2nd, he takes the creatures that were milled in this way, exiles them, and gives me back 2/2 tokens.
My friend made a joke that maybe he should just run Kozilek, Butcher of Truth in all of his sideboards to counteract this, which got us wondering.
If I had Undead Alchemist and others attack, and part of the deck that was milled involves putting Kozilek, Butcher of Truth into the graveyard, what would happen?
Would my opponent get to shuffle his graveyard back into his library before I exile the creatures (Thereby preventing me from acquiring my 2/2 tokens), or do I exile the creatures first (Including Koz) and thereby prevent him from recycling his graveyard?
I know this falls to who has priority and which trigger resolves first. The thing is, I'm not sure whether or not priority would pass to him or not. I know ultimately Koz would attempt to check if he is in the graveyard, but at that point would it be too late and he is exiled because of UA?
1 week ago
@andypants040, we think very much alike, If I were to use another partner commander with Kydele other than thrasios it was gonna be Kraum, Ludevic's Opus, I do know about him. Thought Vessel is a card where I want to play the deck before I put it in just to see if it's necessary to have another no max hand effect in it and being completely honest when I first read Sylvan Library I read it wrong and thought I had to pay the 8 life no matter what which is why I didn't include it but after reading it again I am definitely putting it in. And I think I would get more value playing another win con like Laboratory Maniac or another eldrazi titan like Kozilek, Butcher of Truth. But thank you so much for commenting.
1 week ago
Lucky me I've been considering making him myself. I should have a few good suggestions.
The walls are a neat idea but I think anything with the inspired mechanic will be a better card. Try King Macar, the Gold-Cursed, Arbiter of the Ideal, Daring Thief, Disciple of Deceit, Servant of Tymaret. There are some other good ones too.
This is probably something you won't get for awhile but if you can The Scarab God is good and if I understand correctly could get rid of eldrazi that shuffle graveyards back into libraries. Kozilek, Butcher of Truth and ilk are some of the worst things a mill deck can run into.
Paradox Engine has the potential to really help eat through decks with this commander too.
2 weeks ago
I do not think they are worth sideboard slots, and I would peronally consider Kozilek, the Great Distortion might be better than Kozilek, Butcher of Truth... but it also hard to turn down the annihilator on butcher of truth. But you should not have too many issues with drawing into the ones you do have with so many artifacts that help you draw, and thin your deck; and then Ancient Stirrings to dig for one when you want one. I would say that 3 is more than fine; and that again, the other Eldrazi might not be worth it in the sideboard. Sideboard is normally there to help you shore up any weaknesses you might have in any given match up -- and those other Eldrazi likely do not help you shore up any weaknesses.
2 weeks ago
Kamahl, Fist of Krosa, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip, Craterhoof Behemoth, Pathbreaker Ibex, Regal Force, Avenger of Zendikar, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Caged Sun and Rogue's Passage could be some fun additions.
I know some of those cards are a little on the pricey side but they are certainly fun to use! If you have specific kinds of cards you want to look for or have any deckbuilding questions I'll be happy to help you :)
2 weeks ago
No Oblivion Stone? And as per the last post on your other deck, you do not need anything that gives trample. Emrakul, the Aeons Torn has flying, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger puts your opponent on a clock even if it does not do damage, Kozilek, the Great Distortion has menace.both versions of Ulamog blow up potential blockers on cast. Karn Liberated, and Ugin, the Spirit Dragon can both blow away blockers. There should be no need to give creatures trample with how clean you can keep the board.
As far as cuts, I think it largely depends on how interactive you want the deck to be. I personally like decks that are highly interactive (I play a lot of midrange and control). As such, I would likely want to include 4x Thought-Knot Seer. This would then mean that I would want to run Firespout over Kozilek's Return as it does more damage, and I would not want the graveyard trigger on Kozilek's Return as it would then kill my Thought-Knot Seers. I would also want to run Kozilek, the Great Distortion. Modern has a lot of cards at the 1, 2, and 3 cmc slots. As such, I would look to have as many cards at those cmcs as I can. Therefore, I would probably want to make sure I am playing Prophetic Prism as the deck is otherwise a little light on 2 drops. I would also want to play Sundering Titans and World Breakers to also interact with my opponent's mana base. The down side to the overall list I just outlined is that there are some very common creatures in modern that have 5 toughness that Firespout might have a difficult time killing that Kozilek's Return might be more adept at.
But again, that is how I would want to design the deck. I would likely only include Kozilek, the Great Distortion, and World Breaker as my only Eldrazi. You seem to like your Eldrazi. This changes the deck a fair bit as you would not want to run Thought-Knot Seers so you could then instead run Kozilek's Return to generate as much value as possible from playing those big Eldrazi. In this case, I would likely cut 1x Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, 1x Emrakul, the Promised End, 1x Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, 4x Relic of Progenitus, 3x Firespout, 1x Walking Ballista, 2x Thought-Knot Seer, 4x Prophetic Prism, 2x Sundering Titan, and maybe 1 Wurmcoil Engine. I would then add 1 more World Breaker and 2x Oblivion Stone.
2 weeks ago
Im not very attached to Primal Surge anymore. I was when I first came up with the idea but relying on it has showed that it can work, but its not as effective as I thought itd possibly be. I think what I want to do is to try to turn it into Tron, because I want to be able to cast whatever big Eldrazi creatures I have in the deck and reap the benefits of their casting abilities.
I think what Im most attached to is possibly the fact that I wanted to run Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, as well as Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger. Im just not sure how well it will work out because of the 10-15 mana cost on those 4 creatures.
I do understand that Im trying to do too much with the deck and its not working because of it, and its definitely not working effective now. What do you think about me starting over with the deck and just creating it into a two color Tron deck? I like the idea and I feel it would complete the original desire with this deck which was to be able to cast (at most) those 4 big Eldrazi creatures.
2 weeks ago
Looks pretty good! I'd recommend taking out the two Eldrazi, however. On paper, they seem great. They keep you from milling out and allow you to draw/mill your creatures again to get more zombies. However, in practice they do more harm than good. You have cards like Filth and Wonder that want to be in the graveyard, and Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre and Kozilek, Butcher of Truth mess with that strategy. You've also included Laboratory Maniac, and these two cards make him obsolete. I recommend replacing them with Acidic Slime and Undead Warchief, or if you want to cut down a creature you could replace Acidic Slime with Triumph of the Hordes.