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Cyclonic Rift Discussion
19 hours ago
23 hours ago
LupoReed Fair enough! I'm not a fan of infinite combos myself but it seems like many people consider it an auto-include :)
Other than that I'm not a fan of Devastation Tide, unless you can often put it on top of your library before you draw a card, as Miracle works only on the first card you draw each turn. Cyclonic Rift would be a good replacement, being an instant, one-sided and potentially could save your life from a sudden combo/buff on the board even if you don't have the mana to overload it.
4 days ago
I hear ya; Animar can be tough to hit and actually stick to the 'field. When I first built it I was ruined by mass creature destruction again and again (Day of Judgment, etc), Counterspells are always a problem, and red/blue have enough burn/bounce/steal to ruin your day
Here's a pile of ideas. Venser, Shaper Savant, Mystic Snake, Draining Whelk, Heroic Intervention, Elgaud Shieldmate, Archetype of Endurance, Asceticism, Glen Elendra Archmage, Stratus Dancer, Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir, Cavern of Souls, Gaea's Herald, Prowling Serpopard, Tajuru Preserver, Soul of New Phyrexia, Temur Sabertooth, Deadeye Navigator, Cyclonic Rift, and of course your own Counterspell package ;D
6 days ago
Thanks for the comments on Spirits Wall.
What do you guys use to value your decks? We use Deckstats.net Un-FLICKING-believable!!!!!!!!!! Deck. $60.82 - Basic Lands $1.10 = $59.72. We always found TCGPlayer.com (Sidebar) was always missing cards (Caution triangle), and was so variable made it unpleasant. Interested to know what you guys settled on.
Rakdos Charm in all honesty is not the best, but it is modular (graveyard protection), and it kills a go-wide token strategy that you indicated to have issues with. Also, or alternatively, you can run board clearing, like Chandra's Ignition or Whipflare.
Ontop of Dualcaster Mage + Ghostly Flicker + Piranha Marsh, Archaeomancer + Peregrine Drake also work.Animate Dead + Worldgorger Dragon can also, but he is high risk. Maybe some additional Tutors to consistently get the Ghostly Flicker.
Rite of Replication + Dualcaster Mage / Naru Meha, Master Wizard is infinite Wizards (Don't even need to kick it). Rite of Replication is good on it's own too, especially with all the ETB's you run. Add a Gray Merchant of Asphodel and that's a win-con (unless the opponent is playing heavy life gain), does 60 damage to each opponent ( x 6 Gray Merchant of Asphodel + 5 triggers) by itself, and you gain 180 life.
I see the mana fixing in the base, but so many tapped lands can slow you down too much. May overcome this with the ramp?
Dinrova Horror I understand he can be a powerhouse, and recurring him makes him good, but High CMC, and can't target yourself (efficiently anyway).
Dreamscape Artist that is a hell of a price to pay, I wouldn't. If it could pull any land maybe, but not basic.
I'm not sure Duplicant is effective enough, and high CMC, for his $ cost in a budget format. There's lots of ETB's to abuse, for sure, he is one of them, but not sure worth it. Would rather have money for a Rite of Replication.
Withered Wretch and Ingot Chewer are ok, but I would rather have a Rakdos Charm, I realize can't flicker them, but those creatures aren't the greatest anyway, and Withered Wretch doesn't benefit from flicker.
I would play but evaluate Discovery / Dispersal, doesn't provide any card advantage, have to see how often it is Surveil a card into the graveyard that you return as a %. If it inconsistently works, I wouldn't run it. If you find your usually recurring the card it throws, or your aggressive enough to dig for a combo piece, might be ok. Hard to evaluate.
Nightscape Familiar is not a terrible ramp, and he has Regenerate, so can block Non-Flample pretty good.
Devastation Tide scares me to, because you probably rebuild your board the slowest (or close to the slowest). I wouldn't want to reset myself, after doing all the ramping work. Might be situational good on occasion, but rarely on a miracle. There is a blue card (not Cyclonic Rift that does opponents stuff, name escapes me now, but it has a very high CMC)
Commit / Memory at CMC4 seems pretty high too. Seems to much, lose the game with it in hand and unable to cast, or saving CMC4 and don't end up using it. Not Flash or anything (other than the copy spell guys) to really utilize the saved mana, or draw, etc. Some with the artifact returns/recur though.
Burnished Hart is really good, I know he doesn't ETB, but if you can recur him, lots of ramping. A little $ expensive too.
Most of your drawing is CMC 3+ which, I understand early turns your playing tapped lands for the most part, so you're slowly moving, then turn 3-5 your trying to draw. You have a couple tutors, but you might get overwhelmed before you can get to it. Luckily in a multi-pod, you'll probably be left alone for a while, but hard to evaluate if your fast enough. Since you restrict to only Tier 4+ commanders, you may have enough time, our league doesn't restrict, just restricts the budget, Animar or Brago, you'd never get ahead of, so you have that going for you!
Razaketh's Rite is high CMC, but the Cycling makes it playable if drawn in opening rounds.
Sever the Bloodline is great for Horde removal too (or indestructible), or Bile Blight. Not sure how often you see it though, we have 1/1 Snake and 2/2 Wolf and */* Vampire in our league. Tragic Slip too (instant speed).
I like the draw on Illusionist's Stratagem but the CMC4 sucks, it's still good though because it triggers the 2 creatures, which you need.
Custodi Lich is awesome (for the extra draw and the sacrifice), but his $ and his CMC5 make him not budget friendly. Plus he many not even get the target your really want to kill, and sorcery speed. Once the Monarch is on the table, if you don't have a way to take it back, you may actually hurt yourself by giving away card advantage.
Good deck idea, like the flicker. +1.
1 week ago
I would also say Cyclonic Rift should be in the deck as it is a staple card in EDH, allowing you to reset the game for opponents at instant speed while you keep all of your stuff.
1 week ago
0/10: clear theme, no jank : )
Some semi-budget suggestions:
Camaraderie could be sick card draw.
Emrakul's Evangel could upgrade 1/1 tokens.
Phyrexian Rebirth consolidates power and is good to populate, but leaves you vulnerable to a single kill spell.
Skittering Invasion might be good in some situations, if you can copy the tokens and use them as mana receptacles.
1 week ago
tiassa thanks for the suggestion. I had Primal Surge in my deck but took it out. My games started to feel like a coin flip. I would cast surge and then hope my opponents didn't have fog effects, or cards like Teferi's Protection or Cyclonic Rift. Maybe I just lacked the self control not to play my whole deck. Personally, I think Primal Surge is better for landfall and other ETB decks.