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Creature — Cat Beast Spirit
Trample, lifelink (Whenever this creature deals damage, you gain that much life.)
Phantom Nishoba enters the battlefield with seven +1/+1 counters on it.
If damage would be dealt to Phantom Nishoba, prevent that damage. Remove a +1/+1 counter from Phantom Nishoba.
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Phantom Nishoba Discussion
1 month ago
Hey man, here are my thoughts
First, although I know your manabase isn't finished, I'd recommend running at 37 lands total.
Second, it's important to consider which equipment are powerful with this strategy, especially with Mirri. You'll likely need ways to keep her from dying. Since she has first strike, giving her deathtouch in addition will make it such that she will always kill the opposing creature before it deals damage, making her almost invincible in combat. You've already mentioned Quietus Spike, but other must-includes for this deck (imo) are Gorgon's Head, Gorgon Flail, and Basilisk Collar. You may also want to have ways to keep Mirri from dying to board wipes and removal. Darksteel Plate and Shield of Kaldra are both about 5 bucks, but they're pretty good. Cards that prevent targeting can be good, but hexproof is preferable to shroud. However, some shroud giving cards, such as Lightning Greaves and General's Kabuto. Mask of Avacyn gives Hexproof, but it's not a Great equipment.
Third, let's consider the equipment you're including. You want most of them to be strong enough to make a single creature into a threat on its own. You've already included cards like Argentum Armor, but frankly you don't really have enough equipment. I'm gonna list a bunch of equipment in various categories here that are worth considering (Sorry if some of this is already in your deck).
Fourth, let's look at your creatures. In commander, lower-impact things tend to be outclassed quickly. As such, you generally want your creatures to either be significant threats or utility. Some creatures that I feel are worth cutting are:
Jareth, Leonine Titan (Not a particularly good card. He's only got a good size when blocking)
Leonin Relic-Warder (He's likely to die over the course of the game. Long-lasting removal is better)
Oreskos Explorer (You're in green, so your ramp spells are likely to be land-focused)
Phantom Nishoba (You'll probably want something stronger for you 7 mana. It's basically a 7-mana 7/7 with lifelink/trample and a downside.)
Qasali Ambusher (This creature just isn't impactful on its own)
Sunspear Shikari (This one is also low impact. I wouldn't play a 2-mana 2/2 with both of those abilities natively in commander, and this card is worse than that.)
Don't get too attached to the cat theme. Have it be something you can take advantage of, but don't put in a bad card just because it's a cat. Additionally, don't be averse to putting in noff-type creatures when doing so improves your deck.
Let's look at some creatures that might improve your deck.
Eight-and-a-Half-Tails (Can help get your other creatures through for damage or protect them from removal. A tricky one to play with, but with high upside)
Sram, Senior Edificer (Card draw is A1 in commander, and this guy gets it for you while also carrying equipment)
Odric, Lunarch Marshal (Makes one threat into a whole team of them)
Leonin Warleader (Makes more vessels for the equipment, which have lifelink and benefit from tribal synergies)
Taj-Nar Swordsmith (Gets you what you need when you need it. Make sure you know what you're looking for though!)
Grand Abolisher (Gives you a lot more control over combat on your turn)
Leonin Abunas (Protects your equipment. May be unecessary, but worth considering)
Indomitable Archangel (As above, but it also has flying, which makes it even better.)
Brass Squire (Sneakily fantastic. Avoids the equip cost while also letting you move an equipment at instant speed)
Auriok Windwalker (As above, but it also has flying, which...huh, deja vu)
Mother of Runes (Good for defending from removal or getting a creature through combat)
Armory Automaton (Note: this can take your opponents' equipment as well. They can re-equip it, but not until they get back to their own turn.)
Alms Collector (This is a good cat. Worth including on its own merits. Takes stuff away from the blue player.)
Stone Haven Outfitter (Insurance for a board wipe. Your deck is weak to them, so keep an eye out for ways to protect your team.)
Mentor of the Meek (More card draw since most of your creatures are cheap)
Adorned Pouncer (Not sure about this one, but it has double strike and can come back from the dead, so that's something)
Mirran Crusader (This guy sees modern and legacy play for a reason. He hits hard and doesn't die easy)
Silverblade Paladin (The ability to give another creature double strike is fantastic.)
Steelshaper Apprentice (Weird card, but lets you get what you need.)
Emeria Shepherd (Another way to rebuild after a wipe. Consider holding this in hand w/ a few lands rather than playing it out.)
Jhoira's Familiar (Makes equipment and legendary creatures cheaper and has flying.)
6 months ago
This has been one of my biggest changes to a deck. Atraxa has lost it's identity and since I changed focus on the deck from counters to super friends. I got rid of Beastcaller Savant because it doesn't hit nearly as much and added in a couple mana dorks to help ramp. This deck has a problem getting things out and stopping opponents so I have added in counterspells such as Negate, Dispel and Mana Leak. Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip was taken out as it got hard to trigger into a walker sometimes, and didn't really fit any theme to the deck.
7 months ago
Things that should work well in the deck: Nahiri, the Lithomancer, Aura Shards, Fireshrieker, Worldslayer, Shield of Kaldra, Helm of Kaldra, Sword of Kaldra, Conqueror's Flail, Basilisk Collar, Godsend, Whispersilk Cloak, Quietus Spike, Masterwork of Ingenuity, Sword of Vengeance, Rishkar's Expertise, Open the Vaults, Krosan Grip, Auriok Steelshaper, Armory Automaton, Puresteel Paladin, Stonehewer Giant
Consider removing: Alms Collector, Stalking Leonin, Hungry Lynx, Jazal Goldmane, Leonin Arbiter, Fleecemane Lion, Phantom Nishoba, Temur Sabertooth, White Sun's Zenith, Curse of Bounty, Curse of Vitality
I think some of my suggestions for adding may already be in there but that just tells you they are doubly worth it :P There may be better options then some of what I listed so you might want to take a look here too:
7 months ago
Making a few updates to make the deck more resilient.
2 Forest, Longtusk Cub, Trained Caracal, Sword of Feast and Famine pro green is bad with arahbo. Garruk Wildspeaker great card but no real synergy with this deck. Initiate's Companion. Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip it will be too difficult to flip, and wont be able to do so reliably.
10 months ago
Bane of Progress is a creature you should consider. Avenger of Zendikar seems to suit your theme, too. Wipes out artifacts and enchantments, and gets you counters, is what you are wanting to get. Phantom Nishoba might be nice, too. Mirari's Wake and Aura Shards would be good cards to add. Parallel Lives might help out, too.
Cards I'd consider dropping are Wake the Reflections, Common Bond, Verdant Rebirth, and Smite for now. Smite is just a bad Swords to Plowshares. Those other spells aren't going to give you as much value as you might initially think.
Other cards I'd consider looking for replacements for would be Always Watching and Intangible Virtue. They are ok on a budget, but I'd rather use some buffs that affect all my creatures, as opposed to just some of them. Mirari's Wake, for instance, and Tolsimir Wolfblood does this well. Another option could be Wilt-Leaf Liege (although her 2nd ability is kind of lacking for this deck). Cards like Overrun and Triumph of the Hordes could be finishers.
You look like you've got a lot of land ramp going on, which is good. Sol Ring is pretty much standard for Commander, and Selesnya Signet fits the bill here, too. Cards like Burgeoning and Exploration are pretty potent first turn plays if you think you'd like something like that. Frontier Siege gives another option for ramp. Sword of the Animist might be a way to go, too.
Card draw. More is always better (almost). Harmonize is not bad. Soul's Majesty can be good, but costs more mana-wise than I'd want to pay. Zendikar Resurgent is a two-for-one deal; ramp and card draw. Skullclamp can do some work, and Mask of Memory is decent, too. I always liked Collective Unconscious, and there are some others like it out there, too.
That's a lot, but I hope it helps a little and gives you some ideas to consider. Can't wait to play!
11 months ago
Posting this Cats that don't suck list to research later, as MegaMatt13 commented, Pride Sovereign is a little weak, plus I find that 24 cats is a little short, although I've won games without playing a cat Stonehewer Giant + Puresteel Paladin + Grafted Exoskeleton.
I excluded many aggro cats because I feel that's not the right way to win in a multi-player format.
I'm sure I've missed some cats. I also have added some cats that do suck, but evaluating combos with them.
Adorned Pouncer, Ajani's Pridemate, Ajani's Sunstriker, Felidar Cub, Fleecemane Lion, Hungry Lynx, Initiate's Companion, Leonin Arbiter, Leonin Relic-Warder, Leonin Shikari, Lost Leonin, Metallic Mimic, Qasali Pridemage, Scrounging Bandar, Sunspear Shikari, Whitemane Lion
Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Fleetfoot Panther, Kemba, Kha Regent, Mirri, Cat Warrior, Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist, Mirror Entity, Pride Sovereign, Prowling Serpopard, Qasali Ambusher, Skyhunter Skirmisher, Stalking Leonin
Please recommend any cats i've missed!
1 year ago
You need to cut 21 cards to make this deck viable as a commander deck. I'd suggest you cut the following ones because they're either not in theme with your deck, too expensive for what they can do, counter productive or you simply already have better alternatives in your deck:
- Rogue's Passage;
- Angel of Jubilation;
- Chameleon Colossus;
- Fleecemane Lion;
- Stonehewer Giant;
- Wilt-Leaf Liege;
- Elspeth, Sun's Champion;
- Phantom Nishoba;
- Angelic Armaments;
- Argentum Armor;
- Armory of Iroas;
- Chitinous Cloak;
- Coat of Arms;
- Loxodon Warhammer;
- Staff of Nin;
- Rishkar's Expertise;
- Beastmaster Ascension;
- Collective Blessing;
- Dueling Grounds;
- Oath of Ajani.
Hope this helps.
1 year ago
Yes, 0 * =
As many other creatures from back in the day, they don't especially account for 0/0 creatures surviving on the battlefield by getting their P/T elsewhere (see Phantom Nishoba, be it intentional or not), or cases like this one. Nevertheless, there's no exceptions being made as to how the abilities work.