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Vampiric Tutor Discussion
3 hours ago
Tutors you desperately need tutors and you have to the best two with black, Demonic Tutor which us very affordable now with the UMA reprint and Vampiric Tutor , also Diabolic Intent is perfect for this deck. Not to mention Worldly Tutor or Natural Order to find the specific creatures you need I would also suggest removing creatures like Lotleth Giant or Hatchery Spider, they're mana cost is way too high and their etbs are mediocre. Also you're running Jarad and he combos excellently with Lord of Extinction to continually throw at all your opponents, and can be reanimated over and over.
Now reanimation comes easy, so I would suggest subbing Meren of Clan Nel Toth , and ramp this damn deck needs ramp. Llanowar Elves , Fyndhorn Elves , Birds of Paradise , also take the Elves of Deep Shadow and Golgari Signet from your Golgari guild kit and throw them in there. Abrupt Decay is also a must as it has versatility like Assassin's Trophy but is uncounterable. Not to mention the Bane of Progress is a fantastic enchantment/artifact board wipe.
Speaking of board wipes, you need some in EDH so I would recommend either Toxic Deluge a sweeper which is more affordable or Damnation . Toxic Deluge is faster than Damnation however and gets around indestructible, run both for most optimal removal.
Cut down your creatures from 39 to 35 and I would suggest some infinite win-cons. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion fit very well in a reanimation shell (basically Mike gives Trike undying to which he can infinitely throw damage at your opponents and sac himself to reset undying and do it all over again) or even the good old Necrotic Ooze combo, which is Necrotic Ooze+ Phyrexian Devourer + Triskelion which you can set up with buried alive. Get Necrotic ooze, gets both the activated abilities of Trike and Devourer hit your opponent with 1/1 counters based on the cmc of the cards your exiling from the top of your deck. Also get Protean Hulk, the creature is busted and can fetch wincons 6 cmc or less.
Card draw is also vital, I would suggest Sylvan Library or Fecundity as one is the best card for drawing in green the other is great for graveyard strategies but it does fuel your opponent as well, so play it wisely.
Any ideas look at my meren deck, it's runs many of the same ideas with more detailed descriptions on win cons etc. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/merenating-dat-sauce/
1 day ago
I'm actually working on a The Haunt of Hightower discard build right now, wanting to pack it full of 'symmetrical' discard and sacrifice effects that obviously benefit me more.
SynergyBuild, the thing about my Prossh deck is that Food Chain isn't my only way to win. I run a Pod line, several Tooth and Nail combos, a Necrotic Ooze line, as well as the Eternal Scourge /non- Eternal Scourge FC combos, so banning out pieces seems really impractical for the owner.
Everything officially Banned by WotC
Mana Crypt : For obvious reasons
Laboratory Maniac : Too 'easy' of a wincon
Prossh, Skyraider of Kher : "Powerhouse of a deck that needs to be stopped".
Winter Orb : Too oppressive
Static Orb : Too oppressive
Atraxa, Praetors' Voice : Can generate too much advantage for opponents to keep up.
Teferi, Temporal Archmage : Powerful combo/stax enabler.
Any hard stax that generates hard/soft locks to keep players from playing the game (basically any good stax decks)
Any streamlined aggro/combo that wins the game consistently by turn 5 or before.
We reserve the right to ban cards/archetypes as needed to keep the meta fresh and healthy for new players. We also ask that players approximate power levels before sitting down to play a game of Magic.
1 day ago
Vampiric Tutor is the #1 card you could put in to improve the deck. Diabolic Vision is an excellent cantrip. Temporal Trespass is the best extra turn spell you could ask for, since the CMC is an upside. Same goes for Curtains' Call and Avatar of Woe . Insidious Dreams and Ancestral Knowledge are extra Doomsdays. Unnatural Selection is an extra creature-type changer. Emrakul, the Promised End is a good eldrazi of choice, since you'll actually be able to cast it if you tutor it to the top of your library. Trench Gorger is a good late game card, since it does triple duty acting as a huge beater, high-CMC target, and deck-thinner. For little guys, Tormented Soul , Triton Shorestalker , Faerie Impostor , Prickly Boggart , Vampire Cutthroat , Looter il-Kor , Nether Traitor , Flitterstep Eidolon , Thalakos Seer , Baleful Strix , Augury Owl , Spire Owl , and Sage Owl are better than some of your choices,
1 day ago
Based on my own experience in multi-player format I can say that you definitely need more board wipes: Damnation , Languish , Ritual of Soot , Cyclonic Rift (one of my favorite), Evacuation , Toxic Deluge or Black Sun's Zenith (to deal with indestructible creatures) etc. The choice depends on your meta. You also need tutors: Vampiric Tutor , Demonic Tutor , Diabolic Tutor etc. Dimir Signet , Dimir Keyrune - for mana stabilizing. I recommend to take out Unmoored Ego - it seems useless in EDH. Some ideas for card draw: Phyrexian Arena (classic!), Necropotence (a great card believe me), Twilight Prophet (I'm crazy about this card in Standard and I think it has a great potential in EDH), Doom Whisperer (another great card from Guilds of Ravnica). Good luck in brewing!
2 days ago
Thank you very much, Hyena34!
You are very right about responses, this deck does not feature any direct responses besides the controlling element of it - it is, however, not a duel commander deck, and is mostly played in multiplayer.
Volrath's Stronghold should certainly be in the deck, how could I've missed it, thanks! I'm not a big fan of Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth or Prismatic Omen though; I don't think, they'll help in this deck. Dust Bowl on the other hand might be worth a shot.
When it comes to tutoring, I've only included Vampiric Tutor but I'm thinking of using Imperial Seal as well. Besides that, many cards tutor for specific land cards as well. I'm not sure either Mystical Tutor or Worldly Tutor would do this deck any good.
Thank you so much for the suggestions and comments, rock on!
1 week ago
Elspeth, Knight-Errant mythic edition (can replace yours with a modern event deck one)
I'm also looking to trade ktk fetches into onslaught ones. I have all except for Flooded Strand. Lastly, I'm looking for
1 week ago
I suggest you add some graveyard hate in case your opponents have a way to recur back their cards (Living Death, Scrap Mastery, Sun Titan, etc.), like Crook of Condemnation, Relic of Progenitus, Nihil Spellbomb or Leyline of the Void (if you have the $$$). You already have Bojuka Bog, so nice choice :). I love the Whip of Erebos and Phyrexian Reclamation to get back my own creatures and some instants or sorceries put them back directly (one-time only though): Cauldron Dance, Torrent of Souls, Rise from the Grave. Beacon of Unrest is very nice and versatile. If you have the budget, Sheoldred, Whispering One is very effective and Goryo's Vengeance can be useful. Shallow Grave, Animate Dead and Necromancy are other options too. For mass-reanimation, use Rise of the Dark Realms, Liliana Vess or Liliana, Death Wielder. If you like the discard theme, pretty much all specters have an ability related to that, but of course they aren't of the tribes you want with your commander. Also, if you play black, I think tutors are a must, because they are the best in the game since only Beseech the Queen reveals the tutored card in black (well, I think so). So Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Mastermind's Acquisition, Dark Petition, Diabolic Revelation, Increasing Ambition and the good old budget Diabolic Tutor are among options.
1 week ago
Further to the comments onKaalia, Mirror Breaker EDH
Bruna, the Fading Light make sure you understand that she doesn't work if you play her with Kaalia of the Vast. She only works if you cast her from your hand. And is only really cool (other than she has unburial) when Gisela, the Broken Blade is in the graveyard, Brisela, Voice of Nightmares is pretty cool, win-con wouldn't go that far, but pretty cool. Just HIGH CMC and need the other half to be useful. Doesn't work with Quicksilver Amulet or any type of Reanimate either.
Sensei's Divining Top is good for pulling a A/D/D from the top of your deck into your hand. Nothing worse than an unblockable Kaalia of the Vast and No A/D/D to play for free. It also draw enables the tutors, like pull a Razaketh, the Foulblooded with Vampiric Tutor (if you drew it that turn) and then grab it with the derpy dreidel for the win.
You play more control than I do for sure, You might want to choose 1 or maybe 2, but 3 CMC6, and 2 CMC4 is too much I think. Maybe another tutor and just pull one or the other, keep the best, tutor for it. Cycling is even still a bit too much, if it was it would be amazing.
Can't say much, deck looks pretty impressive and lethal. When you get more ramp, you see more Turn-2/3 Combos.